Michael Porter cancels 2nd pro day over strained hip, Huerter has hand surgery

[saltlover]

In 12 years, the only pick that they made that has any actual talent is DeMarcus Cousins. Count your lucky stars that you get the 2nd pick, take Doncic and pray that he doesn't leave you in 4 years.

He can't just leave in 4 years. That is what restricted free agency is for.

After 5 years then.  That’s what qualifying offers are for, and Doncic’s will be in the $14-15 million range for one year, which is high enough to be a viable threat to force a trade after a couple of years, or just take it and leave as an unrestricted free agent.

5 at the very least, if he is willing to play on the QO and turn down a max extension or max RFA offer. And this is all assuming Doncic turns into a superstar AND the Kings still suck.

Why would the QO be so high? Due to the increase in salary cap and that it would be the #2 pick hold?

Due to the new CBA, yes.  It increased rookie salaries and the qualifying offer is a 30% raise from his fourth year salary of over $11 million (as pick 2).

Also, that the Kings will still suck is a given in this argument.  It’s a stated assumption as to why Doncic would leave.

[Bucketgetter]

In 12 years, the only pick that they made that has any actual talent is DeMarcus Cousins. Count your lucky stars that you get the 2nd pick, take Doncic and pray that he doesn't leave you in 4 years.

He can't just leave in 4 years. That is what restricted free agency is for.

After 5 years then.  That’s what qualifying offers are for, and Doncic’s will be in the $14-15 million range for one year, which is high enough to be a viable threat to force a trade after a couple of years, or just take it and leave as an unrestricted free agent.

5 at the very least, if he is willing to play on the QO and turn down a max extension or max RFA offer. And this is all assuming Doncic turns into a superstar AND the Kings still suck.

Why would the QO be so high? Due to the increase in salary cap and that it would be the #2 pick hold?

Due to the new CBA, yes.  It increased rookie salaries and the qualifying offer is a 30% raise from his fourth year salary of over $11 million (as pick 2).

Also, that the Kings will still suck is a given in this argument.  It’s a stated assumption as to why Doncic would leave.

It's a given that the Kings HAVE sucked, evident by the list Erik provided, but there's no real reason to think that they will continue to suck if they take Doncic and he turns into a superstar while still on his rookie contract. I certainly didn't see him say, "only if the Kings still suck" or anything.

[CelticsElite]

I'd stay far away from Porter. He's cut from the same piece of glass as Greg Oden and Harry Giles..stinks because apparently he is an extremely hard working and pleasant kid.

It is 1 injury though, all related.  Now back injuries aren't your normal injuries, but it is still just 1 injury.  Oden had several different injuries and Giles has had multiple recurring injuries.  I wouldn't put Porter in with them, at least at this point.

Porter still having issues makes him much more likely to be available at a spot that Boston could reasonably get to, and I'd absolutely take the risk on him.  He was projected as the top player in the draft (by many) before his injury for a reason.

spasms wouldn’t directly cause a hip injury like they’re reporting.

He most likely had bad hips along with his bad back that predisposed him to this injury, especially at such a young age.

[Birdman]

Porter health is no doubt a major concern

[SHAQATTACK]

smokescreen

[CELTICSofBOSTON]

I just hope the 6ers don’t get him

[nickagneta]

I read a report that the Kings are considering Porter over Doncic. It's either the truth and I have to ask or it's a lie that can only be pinned on a dumpster organization like the Kings (on no other team, including the Sixers, would this be believable enough to print). The fact that this report actually exists is a direct result of the Kings being a completely incompetent franchise. Does anyone know the last time the Kings had a winning record? 05-06.

Here are the picks from then til now:
06: 19th Quincy Douby
07: 10th Spencer Hawes
08: 12th Jason Thompson
09: 4th Tyreke Evans
10: 5th Demarcus Cousins
11: 7th Bismack Bioyombo
12: 5th: Thomas Robinson
13: 7th: Ben McLemore
14: 8th: Nik Stauskas
15: 6th: Willie Cauley Stein
16: 13th Georgios Papagiannis
17: 5th: De'Aaron Fox

In 12 years, the only pick that they made that has any actual talent is DeMarcus Cousins. Count your lucky stars that you get the 2nd pick, take Doncic and pray that he doesn't leave you in 4 years.

Strangely enough, even though they have been terrible, they haven't lucked into a top 3 pick until this year. That's some terrible lottery luck combined with what seems like a reluctance to pull a Hinkie and just tank a whole year or two, compounded with terrible selections.

2017 Markannen chosen 2 slots after Fox
2015 Take WCS instead of his team mate Devin Booker
2013 CJ McCollum chosen 3 picks after McLemore
2012 Lillard chosen next pick after Thomas Robinson
2011 After trade had 10th pick and took Jimmer Freddette. Klay Thompson chosen next pick

[KGs Knee]

I read a report that the Kings are considering Porter over Doncic. It's either the truth and I have to ask or it's a lie that can only be pinned on a dumpster organization like the Kings (on no other team, including the Sixers, would this be believable enough to print). The fact that this report actually exists is a direct result of the Kings being a completely incompetent franchise. Does anyone know the last time the Kings had a winning record? 05-06.

Here are the picks from then til now:
06: 19th Quincy Douby
07: 10th Spencer Hawes
08: 12th Jason Thompson
09: 4th Tyreke Evans
10: 5th Demarcus Cousins
11: 7th Bismack Bioyombo
12: 5th: Thomas Robinson
13: 7th: Ben McLemore
14: 8th: Nik Stauskas
15: 6th: Willie Cauley Stein
16: 13th Georgios Papagiannis
17: 5th: De'Aaron Fox

In 12 years, the only pick that they made that has any actual talent is DeMarcus Cousins. Count your lucky stars that you get the 2nd pick, take Doncic and pray that he doesn't leave you in 4 years.

Strangely enough, even though they have been terrible, they haven't lucked into a top 3 pick until this year. That's some terrible lottery luck combined with what seems like a reluctance to pull a Hinkie and just tank a whole year or two, compounded with terrible selections.

2017 Markannen chosen 2 slots after Fox
2015 Take WCS instead of his team mate Devin Booker
2013 CJ McCollum chosen 3 picks after McLemore
2012 Lillard chosen next pick after Thomas Robinson
2011 After trade had 10th pick and took Jimmer Freddette. Klay Thompson chosen next pick

Yikes...

That's a really startling pattern of draft ineptitude.  Making any one of those mistakes is forgivable, but making that many mistakes over such a short period of time is inexcusable.

[Somebody]

Fox was a good pick imo. They're starting to get a bit better now.

[tazzmaniac]

I read a report that the Kings are considering Porter over Doncic. It's either the truth and I have to ask or it's a lie that can only be pinned on a dumpster organization like the Kings (on no other team, including the Sixers, would this be believable enough to print). The fact that this report actually exists is a direct result of the Kings being a completely incompetent franchise. Does anyone know the last time the Kings had a winning record? 05-06.

Here are the picks from then til now:
06: 19th Quincy Douby
07: 10th Spencer Hawes
08: 12th Jason Thompson
09: 4th Tyreke Evans
10: 5th Demarcus Cousins
11: 7th Bismack Bioyombo
12: 5th: Thomas Robinson
13: 7th: Ben McLemore
14: 8th: Nik Stauskas
15: 6th: Willie Cauley Stein
16: 13th Georgios Papagiannis
17: 5th: De'Aaron Fox

In 12 years, the only pick that they made that has any actual talent is DeMarcus Cousins. Count your lucky stars that you get the 2nd pick, take Doncic and pray that he doesn't leave you in 4 years.

Strangely enough, even though they have been terrible, they haven't lucked into a top 3 pick until this year. That's some terrible lottery luck combined with what seems like a reluctance to pull a Hinkie and just tank a whole year or two, compounded with terrible selections.

2017 Markannen chosen 2 slots after Fox
2015 Take WCS instead of his team mate Devin Booker
2013 CJ McCollum chosen 3 picks after McLemore
2012 Lillard chosen next pick after Thomas Robinson
2011 After trade had 10th pick and took Jimmer Freddette. Klay Thompson chosen next pick

The Kings would have had the 3rd pick last draft but dropped to 5th with the Sixers because of the pick swap in that lousy salary dump trade. 

Fox had a pretty good rookie season.  I wouldn't assume Markkanen will be better in 4 years. 

[Rakulp]

I'd stay far away from Porter. He's cut from the same piece of glass as Greg Oden and Harry Giles..stinks because apparently he is an extremely hard working and pleasant kid.

It is 1 injury though, all related.  Now back injuries aren't your normal injuries, but it is still just 1 injury.  Oden had several different injuries and Giles has had multiple recurring injuries.  I wouldn't put Porter in with them, at least at this point.

Porter still having issues makes him much more likely to be available at a spot that Boston could reasonably get to, and I'd absolutely take the risk on him.  He was projected as the top player in the draft (by many) before his injury for a reason.

Jared Sullinger in the making!

Sully produced quite well and it wasn't his back that forced him out of the league.

No, it was the front of his back that did it

[tazzmaniac]

Assuming that Porter is not red flagged, the most important statement is at the end of the article.  Star potential trumps injury risk. 

"Everyone is worried about missing out on a star," one NBA executive told ESPN. "No one wants to miss out on another Joel Embiid."

[Celtics4ever]

Star potential trumps injury risk. 

Not always just ask Jared Sullinger, he dropped like a lead weight in his draft.

[mr. dee]

Take him if he's available. We don't expect him to play right away, anyway.

[Csfan1984]

Star potential trumps injury risk. 

Not always just ask Jared Sullinger, he dropped like a lead weight in his draft.

Harry Giles a more recent and comparable guy that dropped he had big star potential and hype much like Porter. Depending on the injury this can be bad for Porter