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Title: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: celticpride1 on June 21, 2018, 12:47:51 AM
Remember before Ainge fleeced Billy King he was about ready to give up 3 first round picks for Dwight Howard? Can you you think how bad of a situation we would be in right now? ThiS may go down as the best trade never to have been made.
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: Chris22 on June 21, 2018, 02:53:56 AM
I thought this thread was going to be about Ainge wanting to trade six picks including four potential first rounders for Justise Winslow.
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: CelticsElite on June 21, 2018, 03:20:50 AM
These aren't the best, but the worst

1. Ainge trying to trade up for Winslow
2. Ainge trying to trade up for Royce White
3. Ainge trying to trade up for Austin Rivers
4. Ainge trying to trade KG for Deandre Jordan (then BKN deal wouldn’t happen)
5. Ainge trying to trade Ray Allen and Rondo for billups and prince
6. Ainge discussion of Tatum for Butler trade.


I also wonder if we ever discussed trading for Troy Murphy or Greg Monroe , as I’m sure we were interested in them for a while
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: timpiker on June 21, 2018, 10:00:54 AM
I say the Winslow non-trade.  Red saved us on that one for sure.
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Post by: Roy H. on June 21, 2018, 10:11:30 AM
Chuck Person, Herb Williams and Steve Stipanovich for Larry Bird.
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: CelticsElite on June 21, 2018, 10:32:05 AM
The best trade that never happened might have been James Harden for Kendrick Perkins. In 2018 it literally translates to  League mvp traded for worst player in the league, but it was discussed as a serious trade in 2010-2011
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: gouki88 on June 21, 2018, 10:35:24 AM
The best trade that never happened might have been James Harden for Kendrick Perkins. In 2018 it literally translates to  League mvp traded for worst player in the league, but it was discussed as a serious trade in 2010-2011
:'(
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: CelticsElite on June 21, 2018, 10:42:36 AM
The best trade that never happened might have been James Harden for Kendrick Perkins. In 2018 it literally translates to  League mvp traded for worst player in the league, but it was discussed as a serious trade in 2010-2011
:'(
an interesting element came out of ESPN’s Bill Simmons’ podcast with Boston radio broadcaster Sean Grande. As SBNation’s Mike Prada noted: The Celtics began talks with the Thunder not for Jeff Green, but for James Harden. You know, the James Harden that has been en fuego since the trade deadline and has become a legitimate third playmaker for the Thunder and a nightmare for opponents? That James Harden?

Getting past how incredible it is that Presti continues to make the right move no matter what the evidence tells him to (and the evidence would have told him Harden was an acceptable price for Perkins prior to the trade deadline), we’ve got an interesting What If question here. How would Harden have impacted the Celtics?

Well, for one, it would have given them another distributor and playmaker who could drive, lessening the impact of Rajon Rondo’s injury. It would have provided a younger defender to sick on Dwyane Wade who did the most damage. And it would have given them a versatile building block who could have really learned behind Ray Allen and Paul Pierce while being the young cornerstone they need without the inconsistencies and dreaded “tweener” label Jeff Green comes with. In short, it would have been better all around. It may not have made the difference in a Celtics win or loss against the Heat, but you have to think Harden would have given them more than Green, who didn’t seem to adjust to life in the Celtics’ locker room after years in the warm bosom of the OKC locker room.
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: fairweatherfan on June 21, 2018, 10:51:44 AM
The best trade that never happened might have been James Harden for Kendrick Perkins. In 2018 it literally translates to  League mvp traded for worst player in the league, but it was discussed as a serious trade in 2010-2011
:'(
an interesting element came out of ESPN’s Bill Simmons’ podcast with Boston radio broadcaster Sean Grande. As SBNation’s Mike Prada noted: The Celtics began talks with the Thunder not for Jeff Green, but for James Harden. You know, the James Harden that has been en fuego since the trade deadline and has become a legitimate third playmaker for the Thunder and a nightmare for opponents? That James Harden?

Getting past how incredible it is that Presti continues to make the right move no matter what the evidence tells him to (and the evidence would have told him Harden was an acceptable price for Perkins prior to the trade deadline), we’ve got an interesting What If question here. How would Harden have impacted the Celtics?

Well, for one, it would have given them another distributor and playmaker who could drive, lessening the impact of Rajon Rondo’s injury. It would have provided a younger defender to sick on Dwyane Wade who did the most damage. And it would have given them a versatile building block who could have really learned behind Ray Allen and Paul Pierce while being the young cornerstone they need without the inconsistencies and dreaded “tweener” label Jeff Green comes with. In short, it would have been better all around. It may not have made the difference in a Celtics win or loss against the Heat, but you have to think Harden would have given them more than Green, who didn’t seem to adjust to life in the Celtics’ locker room after years in the warm bosom of the OKC locker room.

Actual LOL at that bit.  Man, Presti had an incredible drafting run and overall rebuild but his reputation has fallen off a lot since.
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: Big333223 on June 21, 2018, 10:52:03 AM
The best trade that never happened might have been James Harden for Kendrick Perkins. In 2018 it literally translates to  League mvp traded for worst player in the league, but it was discussed as a serious trade in 2010-2011
:'(
an interesting element came out of ESPN’s Bill Simmons’ podcast with Boston radio broadcaster Sean Grande. As SBNation’s Mike Prada noted: The Celtics began talks with the Thunder not for Jeff Green, but for James Harden. You know, the James Harden that has been en fuego since the trade deadline and has become a legitimate third playmaker for the Thunder and a nightmare for opponents? That James Harden?

Getting past how incredible it is that Presti continues to make the right move no matter what the evidence tells him to (and the evidence would have told him Harden was an acceptable price for Perkins prior to the trade deadline), we’ve got an interesting What If question here. How would Harden have impacted the Celtics?

Well, for one, it would have given them another distributor and playmaker who could drive, lessening the impact of Rajon Rondo’s injury. It would have provided a younger defender to sick on Dwyane Wade who did the most damage. And it would have given them a versatile building block who could have really learned behind Ray Allen and Paul Pierce while being the young cornerstone they need without the inconsistencies and dreaded “tweener” label Jeff Green comes with. In short, it would have been better all around. It may not have made the difference in a Celtics win or loss against the Heat, but you have to think Harden would have given them more than Green, who didn’t seem to adjust to life in the Celtics’ locker room after years in the warm bosom of the OKC locker room.

And could they have eventually played Harden and Avery Bradley together, with Harden as the offensive pg/defensive sg and Bradley the opposite? Could've been a nice pairing.
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: moiso on June 21, 2018, 11:50:10 AM
Michael Jordan for Jon Koncak.
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: incoherent on June 21, 2018, 12:26:43 PM
These aren't the best, but the worst

1. Ainge trying to trade up for Winslow
2. Ainge trying to trade up for Royce White
3. Ainge trying to trade up for Austin Rivers
4. Ainge trying to trade KG for Deandre Jordan (then BKN deal wouldn’t happen)
5. Ainge trying to trade Ray Allen and Rondo for billups and prince
6. Ainge discussion of Tatum for Butler trade.


I also wonder if we ever discussed trading for Troy Murphy or Greg Monroe , as I’m sure we were interested in them for a while

Wow your list of worst NBA trades are all trades that didnt happen and we have no idea the details of any of them or how close they really were.

You must really hate Ainge. I dont envy that position. Learn to appreciate we have the best GM in basektball right now.
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: Chef Parish on June 22, 2018, 08:38:17 PM
Reacquiring Greg Kite from the Clippers for a third round draft pick in 1988.
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: Surferdad on June 22, 2018, 09:13:44 PM
Chris Paul for Paul Pierce  ;)
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: tenn_smoothie on June 22, 2018, 11:45:44 PM
Remember before Ainge fleeced Billy King he was about ready to give up 3 first round picks for Dwight Howard? Can you you think how bad of a situation we would be in right now? ThiS may go down as the best trade never to have been made.

God punished us for many years after 1986. God figured he had to even the score a bit for Red fleecing the NBA for so many years.

Now God has determined that we have suffered enough and is rewarding our loyalty and patience by preventing bad trades that almost happened (not counting trading away Kendrick Perkins for a soft shooting forward). God is now on our side again. Banners to follow.
Title: Re: Best nba trade never made?
Post by: GreenEnvy on June 23, 2018, 04:11:21 AM
The best trade that never happened might have been James Harden for Kendrick Perkins. In 2018 it literally translates to  League mvp traded for worst player in the league, but it was discussed as a serious trade in 2010-2011
:'(
an interesting element came out of ESPN’s Bill Simmons’ podcast with Boston radio broadcaster Sean Grande. As SBNation’s Mike Prada noted: The Celtics began talks with the Thunder not for Jeff Green, but for James Harden. You know, the James Harden that has been en fuego since the trade deadline and has become a legitimate third playmaker for the Thunder and a nightmare for opponents? That James Harden?

Getting past how incredible it is that Presti continues to make the right move no matter what the evidence tells him to (and the evidence would have told him Harden was an acceptable price for Perkins prior to the trade deadline), we’ve got an interesting What If question here. How would Harden have impacted the Celtics?

Well, for one, it would have given them another distributor and playmaker who could drive, lessening the impact of Rajon Rondo’s injury. It would have provided a younger defender to sick on Dwyane Wade who did the most damage. And it would have given them a versatile building block who could have really learned behind Ray Allen and Paul Pierce while being the young cornerstone they need without the inconsistencies and dreaded “tweener” label Jeff Green comes with. In short, it would have been better all around. It may not have made the difference in a Celtics win or loss against the Heat, but you have to think Harden would have given them more than Green, who didn’t seem to adjust to life in the Celtics’ locker room after years in the warm bosom of the OKC locker room.

Actual LOL at that bit.  Man, Presti had an incredible drafting run and overall rebuild but his reputation has fallen off a lot since.

Exactly. He could have kept Harden instead of Westbrook, and that probably would have kept Durant there.

He made some good picks, but he’s not infallible.

That is a quote from what, 2011? He had Durant, Green, Westbrook, Ibaka, and Harden. And he was only able to keep Westbrook? Meh...