Talking to David Lee's Agent

[LB3533]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

[Spilling Green Dye]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

You sir need to accompany Danny Ainge when he talks to the Knicks about David Lee.  Hopefully you can convince the Knicks of this.

I for one completely disagree, although I will say that Perkins defense (when he's healthy) is superior to Lee's.  Still, Lee would be much more valuable to have on the court for a myriad of reasons.  Davis is not even in the same realm of value as David Lee.

[Brendan]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

You sir need to accompany Danny Ainge when he talks to the Knicks about David Lee.  Hopefully you can convince the Knicks of this.

I for one completely disagree, although I will say that Perkins defense (when he's healthy) is superior to Lee's.  Still, Lee would be much more valuable to have on the court for a myriad of reasons.  Davis is not even in the same realm of value as David Lee.

Lee is basically a tall not injured version of Powe. His efficiency is off the charts. He'd be a great guy to have as one of the top 3 bigs on the team. He scores a lot without plays called for him and he has a mid range game. I haven't seen enough to know how bad his D is, but I'd take that risk.

[RAcker]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

[guava_wrench]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

I'm not sure when can really say that without seeing how Doc would fit Lee into our system.

Lee would not get stuffed repeated like Baby.

The big question is how long it would take for Lee to figure out our defense. It took Powe a long time.

[Fan from VT]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

I'm not sure when can really say that without seeing how Doc would fit Lee into our system.

Lee would not get stuffed repeated like Baby.

The big question is how long it would take for Lee to figure out our defense. It took Powe a long time.

I think our defense can suffer a little bit but if we're serious about contending, we need to be able to put the ball in the hoop a little better, and Lee definitely can help with that. As others have pointed out, he's like a super-version of what we've lacked since Powe left: a guy who's not pretty but knows how to get the ball to go in the basket. And as for defense, I'm fully okay sacrificing one spot when that player is going to gather in 9 defensive rebounds per game all by himself. Yeah our defense was good, but how many times did other teams get second and third chances last year because KG can't jump and Perk can't move? Way too many.

[2short]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

Perkins low post defense is arguably the best in the nba.  Perk is also a very good shot blocker, besides those 2 things neither player holds a candle to Lee.  Davis hustles his big butt off but Lee is superior in every aspect of the game.  I'm sure he can handle our defensive sets. 

[BballTim]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

Perkins low post defense is arguably the best in the nba.  Perk is also a very good shot blocker, besides those 2 things neither player holds a candle to Lee.  Davis hustles his big butt off but Lee is superior in every aspect of the game.  I'm sure he can handle our defensive sets. 

  Dwight Howard averaged 12 a game on 47% shooting vs the Celts during the regular season, and 23 a game on 83% shooting vs the Knicks. In a related note, Orlando hits about 5 more threes a game vs the Knicks (at a higher fg%), no doubt in part due to the fact that Lee can't handle Howard on his own. I don't think that "besides those 2 things neither player holds a candle to Lee" is as accurate as "without those 2 things we can't get past the Magic". Don't underestimate the power of great defense in the playoffs.

[Evantime34]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

Perkins low post defense is arguably the best in the nba.  Perk is also a very good shot blocker, besides those 2 things neither player holds a candle to Lee.  Davis hustles his big butt off but Lee is superior in every aspect of the game.  I'm sure he can handle our defensive sets. 

  Dwight Howard averaged 12 a game on 47% shooting vs the Celts during the regular season, and 23 a game on 83% shooting vs the Knicks. In a related note, Orlando hits about 5 more threes a game vs the Knicks (at a higher fg%), no doubt in part due to the fact that Lee can't handle Howard on his own. I don't think that "besides those 2 things neither player holds a candle to Lee" is as accurate as "without those 2 things we can't get past the Magic". Don't underestimate the power of great defense in the playoffs.

Agreed. TP.

[guava_wrench]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

Perkins low post defense is arguably the best in the nba.  Perk is also a very good shot blocker, besides those 2 things neither player holds a candle to Lee.  Davis hustles his big butt off but Lee is superior in every aspect of the game.  I'm sure he can handle our defensive sets. 

  Dwight Howard averaged 12 a game on 47% shooting vs the Celts during the regular season, and 23 a game on 83% shooting vs the Knicks. In a related note, Orlando hits about 5 more threes a game vs the Knicks (at a higher fg%), no doubt in part due to the fact that Lee can't handle Howard on his own. I don't think that "besides those 2 things neither player holds a candle to Lee" is as accurate as "without those 2 things we can't get past the Magic". Don't underestimate the power of great defense in the playoffs.

Good points, but how good would Baby be defending Howard if Baby was playing in the Knicks team defense?

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Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

Perkins low post defense is arguably the best in the nba.  Perk is also a very good shot blocker, besides those 2 things neither player holds a candle to Lee.  Davis hustles his big butt off but Lee is superior in every aspect of the game.  I'm sure he can handle our defensive sets. 

  Dwight Howard averaged 12 a game on 47% shooting vs the Celts during the regular season, and 23 a game on 83% shooting vs the Knicks. In a related note, Orlando hits about 5 more threes a game vs the Knicks (at a higher fg%), no doubt in part due to the fact that Lee can't handle Howard on his own. I don't think that "besides those 2 things neither player holds a candle to Lee" is as accurate as "without those 2 things we can't get past the Magic". Don't underestimate the power of great defense in the playoffs.

Great defense his...well...great?  But keep in mind that as soon as SVG realized that DH is 10X more mobile than Perk and get Howard moving in S/R's with Nelson, Perk was not nearly as effective.

There is more than one way to defend.

There is more than one way to win.

Bring the best together.

Learn the roles.

Play together.

Win.

[Spilling Green Dye]

Perkins and Baby do the things our teams needs a lot better than David Lee.

You sir need to accompany Danny Ainge when he talks to the Knicks about David Lee.  Hopefully you can convince the Knicks of this.

I for one completely disagree, although I will say that Perkins defense (when he's healthy) is superior to Lee's.  Still, Lee would be much more valuable to have on the court for a myriad of reasons.  Davis is not even in the same realm of value as David Lee.

Lee is basically a tall not injured version of Powe. His efficiency is off the charts. He'd be a great guy to have as one of the top 3 bigs on the team. He scores a lot without plays called for him and he has a mid range game. I haven't seen enough to know how bad his D is, but I'd take that risk.

Brendan, perhaps you misread my post.  I absolutely would take the risk of taking on Lee, and more or less feel the complete opposite of LB3533's post.  As much as I love Powe, I think it's fair to say that Lee is better than a taller version of Powe, most especially on the fast break and offensive end.

[Chris]

I have been thinking about this all day, and heres is the deal I can come up with that makes sense for both teams:

Boston trades: Ray Allen (resigned for a contract starting at $11 million), Sheed (who would be bought out by the Knicks for $3 million)

NY trades: David Lee (resigned for a contract starting at $10 million), Eddie Curry

If NY signs Amare to the max, this still leaves them with about $18 million in cap room. 

Boston gets a young, talented big man to solidify their front line, and although Curry's contract is tough to swallow, it is expiring, so could be used as an asset to get them a starting SG.

[FallGuy]

I have been thinking about this all day, and heres is the deal I can come up with that makes sense for both teams:

Boston trades: Ray Allen (resigned for a contract starting at $11 million), Sheed (who would be bought out by the Knicks for $3 million)

NY trades: David Lee (resigned for a contract starting at $10 million), Eddie Curry

If NY signs Amare to the max, this still leaves them with about $18 million in cap room. 

Boston gets a young, talented big man to solidify their front line, and although Curry's contract is tough to swallow, it is expiring, so could be used as an asset to get them a starting SG.

Not bad assuming LBJ is heading to NYC. Otherwise, why does Ray agree? He knows he can get a similar deal with Boston, which is his preferred destination (although NYC appears to be second).

It makes shooting a huge priority as you note. To that end, I think we should (in both this hypothetical example and for other more likely scenarios) put our 2011 #1 into play as required. It's going to be the worst draft in years outside the top few picks.

[PosImpos]

We'd probably have to take back Eddy Curry to help free up some cap space for the Knicks.  We'd probably also have to S+T them Ray.