CB Draft Western Conference Finals: Kings (1) Vs Blazers (2)

[Rondo2287]

Well can we worry about Billups declining speed, poor shot selection, and degrading body?

Billups this past season

16.8 ppg  2.6 rpg  5.4 apg 1 spg .427 fg%  .402 3pt%  on 11 fg pg

Lowry

13.5 ppg  4.1 rpg  6.7 apg 1.4 spg .426fg% .376 3pt% on 10.8 fg pg

So if Billups has bad shot selection i guess that makes sense why he is shooting .427 from the field, whats Lowry,s excuse?   Bad shooter?

[Donoghus]

I have absolutely no idea which direction I'm gonna go here.

You boys better get your best B.S. hats on and convince why your team is better.

[indeedproceed]

Well can we worry about Billups declining speed, poor shot selection, and degrading body?

Billups this past season

16.8 ppg  2.6 rpg  5.4 apg 1 spg .427 fg%  .402 3pt%  on 11 fg pg

Lowry

13.5 ppg  4.1 rpg  6.7 apg 1.4 spg .426fg% .376 3pt% on 10.8 fg pg

So if Billups has bad shot selection i guess that makes sense why he is shooting .427 from the field, whats Lowry,s excuse?   Bad shooter?

Here is my thinking on this:

1) LeBron can carry a team to a conference finals on his own. He's proven that, and between Matthews, Millsap, Chandler, and Billups, he's got a better supporting cast than he's ever had in Cleveland.

2) Because of point 1, LeBron didn't need Billups to improve his shot selection to get where he is.

3) Amar'e cannot carry a team on his own to a conference Finals

4) Those statistics you used are a bit tainted. Those are in less minutes, and with a different role than he played when he was the affirmed starter. When given the reigns, his actually shooting looked like: 37.5 mins, 44.65% shooting, 40% from 3.

5) Since Lowry has shown he's better than those numbers, AND Stoudemire would've needed those numbers to get to where he is now, I don't think that his averages over the whole season are an accurate depiction of his ability walking into these Conference Finals.

[Rondo2287]

Well can we worry about Billups declining speed, poor shot selection, and degrading body?

Billups this past season

16.8 ppg  2.6 rpg  5.4 apg 1 spg .427 fg%  .402 3pt%  on 11 fg pg

Lowry

13.5 ppg  4.1 rpg  6.7 apg 1.4 spg .426fg% .376 3pt% on 10.8 fg pg

So if Billups has bad shot selection i guess that makes sense why he is shooting .427 from the field, whats Lowry,s excuse?   Bad shooter?

Here is my thinking on this:

1) LeBron can carry a team to a conference finals on his own. He's proven that, and between Matthews, Millsap, Chandler, and Billups, he's got a better supporting cast than he's ever had in Cleveland.

2) Because of point 1, LeBron didn't need Billups to improve his shot selection to get where he is.

3) Amar'e cannot carry a team on his own to a conference Finals

4) Those statistics you used are a bit tainted. Those are in less minutes, and with a different role than he played when he was the affirmed starter. When given the reigns, his actually shooting looked like: 37.5 mins, 44.65% shooting, 40% from 3.

5) Since Lowry has shown he's better than those numbers, AND Stoudemire would've needed those numbers to get to where he is now, I don't think that his averages over the whole season are an accurate depiction of his ability walking into these Conference Finals.

I don't think that ignoring the whole season where he aveaged 34 minuts per game is fair either though IP.  Its not like he went from 10 mpg game to 37, his average for the season is 34 min

[Donoghus]

So what's the plan for defending Lebron?

[indeedproceed]

Well can we worry about Billups declining speed, poor shot selection, and degrading body?

Billups this past season

16.8 ppg  2.6 rpg  5.4 apg 1 spg .427 fg%  .402 3pt%  on 11 fg pg

Lowry

13.5 ppg  4.1 rpg  6.7 apg 1.4 spg .426fg% .376 3pt% on 10.8 fg pg

So if Billups has bad shot selection i guess that makes sense why he is shooting .427 from the field, whats Lowry,s excuse?   Bad shooter?

Here is my thinking on this:

1) LeBron can carry a team to a conference finals on his own. He's proven that, and between Matthews, Millsap, Chandler, and Billups, he's got a better supporting cast than he's ever had in Cleveland.

2) Because of point 1, LeBron didn't need Billups to improve his shot selection to get where he is.

3) Amar'e cannot carry a team on his own to a conference Finals

4) Those statistics you used are a bit tainted. Those are in less minutes, and with a different role than he played when he was the affirmed starter. When given the reigns, his actually shooting looked like: 37.5 mins, 44.65% shooting, 40% from 3.

5) Since Lowry has shown he's better than those numbers, AND Stoudemire would've needed those numbers to get to where he is now, I don't think that his averages over the whole season are an accurate depiction of his ability walking into these Conference Finals.

I don't think that ignoring the whole season where he aveaged 34 minuts per game is fair either though IP.  Its not like he went from 10 mpg game to 37, his average for the season is 34 min

He went from sub-33 to plus 37, while always being the ball-dominant player when on the court. Honestly, what I should do is go back through all his games and filter out the ones Aaron Brooks played in. That would be a more accurate depiction of how I see him as a player.

[KCattheStripe]

Before I get into the details let me tell you what you are going to hear from our opponent.

Whoa whoa whoa...holy political conjecture copy and paste, batman!

I'm never gonna get people to raise the debt ceiling with rhetoric like that!

Havent you ever seen 8-mile?  Telling people what you are going to say is effective in rap battles and CB Drafts!

No stealing my press conference material.

[KCattheStripe]

Hey IP, this match up, this is where Wilson Chandler would have been useful.

[Fafnir]

Well can we worry about Billups declining speed, poor shot selection, and degrading body?

Declining speed and athleticism - yes

Shot selection - no, Chauncey has a very good shot selection.

The number of pull up 27 footers he takes makes me disagree on this one.

[KCattheStripe]

Do any of the Blazers have the Finals experience that the players of the Kings have?

Lucky for the Blazers, none of them have had the Finals performances that Lebron has.

Or the Finals MVP experience that Chauncey has, but lets not worry about that right? 

You guys made a time machine and drafted 2004 Chaucey billups?

[Donoghus]

Well can we worry about Billups declining speed, poor shot selection, and degrading body?

Declining speed and athleticism - yes

Shot selection - no, Chauncey has a very good shot selection.

The number of pull up 27 footers he takes makes me disagree on this one.

Agreed.  When I think of good shot selection, Chauncey Billups certainly isn't a player that comes to mind.

[Rondo2287]

Do any of the Blazers have the Finals experience that the players of the Kings have?

Lucky for the Blazers, none of them have had the Finals performances that Lebron has.

Or the Finals MVP experience that Chauncey has, but lets not worry about that right? 

You guys made a time machine and drafted 2004 Chaucey billups?

Ya Man, Grimlock is running it as we speak, But in all seriousness, we aren't saying he will play like he did in 2004, but we are saying that he has finals MVP experience, and knows what it takes to win big games

[Who]

Well can we worry about Billups declining speed, poor shot selection, and degrading body?

Declining speed and athleticism - yes

Shot selection - no, Chauncey has a very good shot selection.

The number of pull up 27 footers he takes makes me disagree on this one.

Agreed.  When I think of good shot selection, Chauncey Billups certainly isn't a player that comes to mind.

The odd pull up three here and there doesn't discount how good his overall shot selection is.

[Donoghus]

Well can we worry about Billups declining speed, poor shot selection, and degrading body?

Declining speed and athleticism - yes

Shot selection - no, Chauncey has a very good shot selection.

The number of pull up 27 footers he takes makes me disagree on this one.

Agreed.  When I think of good shot selection, Chauncey Billups certainly isn't a player that comes to mind.

The odd pull up three here and there doesn't discount how good his overall shot selection is.

It kinda does though, doesn't it? 

[nickagneta]

Sine people are talking the PG matchup here's a look at head to head

Chauncey vs Lowry

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=billuch01&p2=lowryky01

Jennings vs Lowry

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jennibr01&p2=lowryky01

Significantly in favor of the Kings