Celtics (1-1) at Pacers (2-0) Game #3 12/27/20

[Rikibellevie]

I didn't watch the game so I won't coment the game itself. Sad we lost this way (bad third quarter, bad last shot from Tatum). I get the frustration of some but we must still put all this on perspectiv. Tatum is not there but no doubt the way tatum ended last year wasn't a fluke... We really need Kemba and probably Theis and TT are not a viable- 4/5 core. 
CBS may be frustrating and this last play is a mistake... But it is a strange begining of season. Yesterday Bucks lost ag NYK, Clippers took an hitoric minus 50 points in an half ag Mavs, Philly is loosing by 20+ ag Cavs and one of the worst team Cha beat Nets... We have to go threw an unprobable begeining of season. The more important is to develop the team and be in position to catch a top 4 in the east. At one point we have to move for a TPE player, but I am sure Danny will. And maybe I am a fool but I think Tatum can still progress in his choices and productin at 22...

[86MaxwellSmart]

Worked all day, DVR'd the game...came home watched the entire thing only to see Tatum freeze like a deer in headlights on that final possession....awful....dribble out the clock like Magic Johnson in the 84 Finals.

[Celtics Mike]

Celtics will never be contenders if they can't resolve the persistent 3Q meltdowns. That should be Brad's top priority. It is inexcusable that the 3Q meltdowns have been a recurring  feature of Brad Stevens Celtics teams every year

[RockinRyA]

Celtics will never be contenders if they can't resolve the persistent 3Q meltdowns. That should be Brad's top priority. It is inexcusable that the 3Q meltdowns have been a recurring  feature of Brad Stevens Celtics teams every year

This is recency bias because iirc during it years we used to turn it up at the half and our problems was starting.

[PhoSita]

Worked all day, DVR'd the game...came home watched the entire thing only to see Tatum freeze like a deer in headlights on that final possession....awful....dribble out the clock like Magic Johnson in the 84 Finals.

I think Tatum took the exact shot he was looking for.


The problem is that with the team down 1 point, the shot he was looking for was a step back three instead of trying to beat his man off the dribble and take it to the rim.

[mr. dee]

Celtics will never be contenders if they can't resolve the persistent 3Q meltdowns. That should be Brad's top priority. It is inexcusable that the 3Q meltdowns have been a recurring  feature of Brad Stevens Celtics teams every year

This is recency bias because iirc during it years we used to turn it up at the half and our problems was starting.

ECF is our ceiling at this point if they don't fix anything within this team. Tatum still tunnel vision and Brad regressed to being one-dimensional at this point.

[liam]

The Celtics still have a lot to work on but everyone knew this coming into the season. A lot of folks are running off the cliff here.

[Somebody]

The Celtics still have a lot to work on but everyone knew this coming into the season. A lot of folks are running off the cliff here.

The thing I'm worried about is that we aren't really working on it - it's the same old thing whenever we get into crunch time situations.

[gouki88]

The Celtics still have a lot to work on but everyone knew this coming into the season. A lot of folks are running off the cliff here.

The thing I'm worried about is that we aren't really working on it - it's the same old thing whenever we get into crunch time situations.

Precisely. It’s been the same issues for a while

[Neurotic Guy]

So either Brad drew up a truly garbage play, or Tatum & everyone else on the court ignored his drawn up play and went along with a Tatum heave. Dunno what’s worse.

And the other option is Indiana defended the drawn up options and Tatum took the best play he thought was now available.  I’d say bad judgement by Tatum wasting too much time initially looking for a play that wasn’t there. With 8 seconds left there’s a couple seconds for looking at options, but you are basically a quarterback in the pocket.  Of nothing there in 2-3 seconds you have to make a move and under the circumstances that move should have been toward the hoop not further away from it.

[Darth_Yoda]

I am starting to fall into the fire brad camp.

He makes no changes, holds no one accountable and is not good at development.

Brown and tatum are not on brad and exclusively on themselves. He has developed no one.

I'm not a Brad apologist, but this is silly. You've had players that have come through here and had their best years under Brad. Evan Turner, Jordan Crawford, Isaiah Thomas. There's a lot of things Brad can improve, but developing players or getting more out of them than others coaches have isn't one of those things.

Isaiah Thomas didnt improve under Brad, he was playing very well prior coming here. He got time here, that is all.

Evan Turner and Jordan Crawford? Poor examples cause they are nothing players.

[cman88]

Why not drive and go for a fadeaway 2 rather than a fadeaway 3 when you are only down 1? That's what I don't get.

Same issue as the bucks game. It was poor shot selection. Dribble past the guy and go for a 2. It's a better option

[Birdman]

Why not drive and go for a fadeaway 2 rather than a fadeaway 3 when you are only down 1? That's what I don't get.

Same issue as the bucks game. It was poor shot selection. Dribble past the guy and go for a 2. It's a better option

Seen this many a times in college and pro games..instead of driving in, players stand and dribble for 15 seconds then shoot a 27 foot shot.. I don’t get it

[Who]

Why not drive and go for a fadeaway 2 rather than a fadeaway 3 when you are only down 1? That's what I don't get.

Same issue as the bucks game. It was poor shot selection. Dribble past the guy and go for a 2. It's a better option

Tatum is not very good at dribbling past people. He can do it some times but not all the time / most of the time. He lacks that explosive quickness or trickery of slower more capable ball-handlers.

I don't think CBS should be putting Tatum in those situations at end of quarters / end of games. He needs to run a play. Or get Tatum a touch closer to the basket in the mid-post / low post area where he can better use his size / shot fakes.

[RJ87]

I am starting to fall into the fire brad camp.

He makes no changes, holds no one accountable and is not good at development.

Brown and tatum are not on brad and exclusively on themselves. He has developed no one.

I'm not a Brad apologist, but this is silly. You've had players that have come through here and had their best years under Brad. Evan Turner, Jordan Crawford, Isaiah Thomas. There's a lot of things Brad can improve, but developing players or getting more out of them than others coaches have isn't one of those things.

Isaiah Thomas didnt improve under Brad, he was playing very well prior coming here. He got time here, that is all.

Evan Turner and Jordan Crawford? Poor examples cause they are nothing players.

Isaiah was not an All-Star, All-NBA player before Boston. Brad didn't just give him minutes, he built an entire offense around a player that was pretty much a 6th man to that point in his career. Credit Isaiah for taking advantage of the opportunity, but also credit Brad for recognizing the talent and putting him in a position to succeed.

And how are Turner and Crawford bad examples when they exactly prove my point? Evan and Jordan were not great players, but they far exceeded expectations while here. Without his season in Boston under Brad, I doubt Portland pays Evan $71 million. Don't just disregard something because it doesn't fit your narrative. It shows your bias.