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Title: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 02:15:31 PM
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Boston Celtics (15-2) at Dallas Mavericks (3-14)
Saturday, November 24, 2018
8:30 PM EST
Regular Season Game #20 – Road Game #12
TV: NBCSB, FSSW-DAL, NBA-LP 763(DTV)/ 758(xfinity)
Radio: 98.5 The Sports Hub, 103.3 FM ESPN
American Airlines Center

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Probable Starting Matchups
Point Guard

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Kyrie Irving vs Dennis Smith, Jr.

Shooting Guard
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Jaylen Brown vs Wesley Matthews

Small Forward

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Jayson Tatum vs Harrison Barnes

Power Forward

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Al Horford vs Luka Doncic

Center

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Aron Baynes vs DeAndre Jordan

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Celtics Reserves
Semi Ojeleye
Daniel Theis
Guerschon Yabusele
Marcus Smart
Marcus Morris
Brad Wanamaker
Robert Williams

Injuries
Jabari Bird
Gordon Hayward
Terry Rozier ( questionable)

Two Way Players
Walt Lemon, Jr.
P. J. Dozier

Head Coach
Brad Stevens

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Mavs Reserves
JJ Barea
Ryan Broekhoff
Salah Mejiri
Jalen Brunson
Dorian Finney-Smith
Devin Harris
Maximilian Kleber
Ray Spaulding

Injuries
Dwight Powell
Dirk Nowitzki
Dennis Smith, Jr. (questionable)
Wesley Matthews (questionable)

Two Way Players
Kostas Antetokuonmpo
Daryl Macon

Head Coach

Rick Carlisle

Game Notes
The Celtics continue their 3 game road trip with a visit to the Dallas Mavericks after Boston's best effort in several games in a 114-96 win in Atlanta last night. The Celtics are playing in their fifth back to back set of games in and are 2-2 in the 2nd game of a back to back. Dallas, who has not played since a 119-113 win over the Nets on Wednesday night, should be well rested. The Mavericks have played some great ball lately turning around a slow 2-7 start of the season by winning 6 of the last 8 games, including impressive wins against Golden State, Oklahoma City and a 50 point win versus Utah.

Dallas' recent success has been led by their rookie sensation, Luka Doncic, who leads the team in scoring with 19.2 per game. Doncic is in the top five up and down the list of rookie stats: scoring(1st), rebounds(3rd), assists(2nd), steals(5th), PER(2nd), 3FG%(4th), minutes per game(1st), and double doubles(5th). Also have their regular productive seasons with both averaging a little over 16 a game. Another large part of Dallas' success this year has been the addition of free-agent, defensive anchor, rebounding monster, DeAndre Jordan. Jordan is third in the league in rebounds per game at 13.6 per game and adds his usually efficient 11.2 points per game. And to his credit, Jordan has finally improved his free throw game so that opposing teams can play hack-a-Jordan. He has a FT% of 80.3% while shooting 3.9 free throws per game.

The Mavericks rank in the middle of NBA in most offensive team stats. They are a good defensive team with the 9th best defensive rating in the league add are efficient shooters with an eFG% 8th in the league and TS% that is 5th in the league. Dallas is undone though by their inability to take care of the ball as they give up the 2nd most turnovers in the league. The Mavs, of course with DeAndre Jordan, is one of the best teams in the league in defending the paint, which means, expect a lot of three pointers by Boston tonight. The Mavericks starting backcourt are both listed as questionable and if either or both miss the game, that will be a blowout to Dallas' chances of success.

Boston is going to have to have another good scoring 1st quarter and evade the slow start that has plagued them most of the year. They will need to continue their aggressiveness to take it to the hole, move the ball, create the open shot and actually hit those shots, building on the way they started off the game against Atlanta. With Barnes and Doncic as wings for Dallas, Horford will most likely be guarding the slower and less quick Doncic and will need to limit him offensively, which will be the key to the game. Boston has to not let another player have a huge game against them as this has been their undoing in many of their losses this year. Doncic is quite capable to be that player so Horford and Morris will need to be at their best defensively and make Doncic work on the other side of the ball. A fun matchup will be at PG as Kyrie will take on 2nd year guard, Dennis Smith, Jr. Smith isn't a very good defender and Kyrie should be once again able to continue his amazing month that he has had. Here's hoping the defense can cause a ton of turnovers and create some easy points on the break, which would go a long way to continue a Boston bounce back from early season struggles.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: otherdave on November 24, 2018, 04:00:28 PM
2 in a row!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 04:01:57 PM
TP to otherdave for being the first to post in the game thread.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hpantazo on November 24, 2018, 04:09:12 PM
No Hayward, maybe no Rozier tonight. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: A Future of Stevens on November 24, 2018, 04:16:56 PM
I cant wait for this game. I actually haven't see Luka play live yet this season. Hopefully I come away unimpressed if you know what I mean.

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hpantazo on November 24, 2018, 04:23:25 PM
Wow, Harrison Barnes looks a lot like Tatum in that first post  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Green-18 on November 24, 2018, 04:25:12 PM
No Hayward, maybe no Rozier tonight. Should be interesting.

It's sad to say but I'm more confident in the Celtics with a player or two out right now. If they win tonight then that means their record will be 4-1 when one of the original starting five misses a game.  In a way I think it gives Brad more lineup flexibility without the concern of frustrating a core rotation player.

By no means am I saying this is good for the team long term.  I just wouldn't be surprised if the team plays with more confidence and assertiveness.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 04:33:31 PM
Wow, Harrison Barnes looks a lot like Tatum in that first post  ;D
Lol, thanks for catching that. TP.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 05:17:44 PM
another game thread means another celtics win!!!! thanks nick and a tp for your good work.

frist page as well!!!  ;D

celtics will once again play with intensity, attack the basket, play great defense, and walk away with a big, big win.

goooooooooooooooooooooo celtics!!  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: kraidstar on November 24, 2018, 05:19:00 PM
No Hayward, maybe no Rozier tonight. Should be interesting.

It's sad to say but I'm more confident in the Celtics with a player or two out right now. If they win tonight then that means their record will be 4-1 when one of the original starting five misses a game.  In a way I think it gives Brad more lineup flexibility without the concern of frustrating a core rotation player.

By no means am I saying this is good for the team long term.  I just wouldn't be surprised if the team plays with more confidence and assertiveness.
I think it WILL help in the long term.

We won't need motivation once the playoffs start, but now? We badly need a jolt to get back on track.

These minor injuries will help the roster crunch and provide more PT to guys who need it, while giving precautionary rest to anyone who is even slightly banged-up. It also protects those players against worse injuries because guys won't need to favor a sore knee or ankle etc, which can throw their gait off and cause other problems.

Psychologically being shorthanded will be good for the team, reminding guys they need to fight every night to win. It also gives them more experience playing alongside different lineups and players.

In the long run a little adversity should supply with team with more confidence, growth, and long-term health.

Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CelticsElite on November 24, 2018, 05:30:33 PM
Who’s ready for doncic dropping 40?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 05:35:22 PM
No Hayward, maybe no Rozier tonight. Should be interesting.

If we beat Dallas handily I wonder how long before someone says "wow we thrashed Dallas without Hayward I guess Hayward is the problem"  :laugh:
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 24, 2018, 05:47:56 PM
I ll take a win ,  ,  long as they win ,  i don't care if the water boy plays
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hpantazo on November 24, 2018, 05:50:56 PM
I ll take a win ,  ,  long as they win ,  i don't care if the water boy plays


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Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 05:51:40 PM
I ll take a win ,  ,  long as they win ,  i don't care if the water boy plays
Great, I will catch a plane to Dallas now and suit up.  ;D

Watch for me.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 24, 2018, 05:53:36 PM
I ll take a win ,  ,  long as they win ,  i don't care if the water boy plays
Great, I will catch a plane to Dallas now and suit up.  ;D

Watch for me.


You get us a W .....I ll buy a seat
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Surferdad on November 24, 2018, 06:44:15 PM
No Hayward, maybe no Rozier tonight. Should be interesting.

It's sad to say but I'm more confident in the Celtics with a player or two out right now. If they win tonight then that means their record will be 4-1 when one of the original starting five misses a game.  In a way I think it gives Brad more lineup flexibility without the concern of frustrating a core rotation player.

By no means am I saying this is good for the team long term.  I just wouldn't be surprised if the team plays with more confidence and assertiveness.
I think it WILL help in the long term.

We won't need motivation once the playoffs start, but now? We badly need a jolt to get back on track.

These minor injuries will help the roster crunch and provide more PT to guys who need it, while giving precautionary rest to anyone who is even slightly banged-up. It also protects those players against worse injuries because guys won't need to favor a sore knee or ankle etc, which can throw their gait off and cause other problems.

Psychologically being shorthanded will be good for the team, reminding guys they need to fight every night to win. It also gives them more experience playing alongside different lineups and players.

In the long run a little adversity should supply with team with more confidence, growth, and long-term health.
Definitely seeing it that way too, as in last night w/o Horford.  It’s a huge benefit of having this kind of depth.   Rozier and Hayward out?  Just means Tatum/Kyrie/Jaylen know they need to step up.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 24, 2018, 07:00:23 PM
maybe theywill play better

when they don't have the luxury of waiting for the next guy to play hard and win the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 08:00:59 PM
This isn't going to be a cake walk. The Mavs are playing well, that 1st year PG is killing it.

This could be the start to turn it around.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 08:02:15 PM
This will be a huge test for the team to show if they've started to really figure things out.

If they come out flat again and lose, then honestly last night's win won't really matter and it's back to the drawing board (and more uneasiness as we'd fall back to .500)
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: coco on November 24, 2018, 08:03:52 PM
Tatum vs Docic.  I think Docic will have a better career.  Why?  Because I think he can make teammates better-  has good vision and is a good passer.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: coco on November 24, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
This isn't going to be a cake walk. The Mavs are playing well, that 1st year PG is killing it.

This could be the start to turn it around.

Right now, no game is a Cake-walk.  Especially on the road.  The way we are playing, I’ll be shocked is we pull a victory tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: GratefulCs on November 24, 2018, 08:27:27 PM
Tatum vs Docic.  I think Docic will have a better career.  Why?  Because I think he can make teammates better-  has good vision and is a good passer.
who's docic?  ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 08:34:49 PM
I'm getting the Dallas feed on League Pass.  Apparently Dallas has won 6 of their last 8 and has been getting off to great starts in the 1st quarter.

Hope we don't lay in egg in the 1st.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 08:35:38 PM
This isn't going to be a cake walk. The Mavs are playing well, that 1st year PG is killing it.

This could be the start to turn it around.

Right now, no game is a Cake-walk.  Especially on the road.  The way we are playing, I’ll be shocked is we pull a victory tonight



Yeah...unfortunately you're right. A good team does make this at least competitive.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 08:39:03 PM
hoping to see the beginning of a lengthy winning streak tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 08:40:24 PM
Let's go C's! Hoping to see some consistency finally!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 08:41:22 PM
Interesting with Morris starting again. I like keeping him in the starting lineup for now to keep us starting better.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 08:41:52 PM
Already a terrible start.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 08:43:01 PM
oh this horrible unis again...ugg
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 08:44:06 PM
Tatum looking confident again! I likes it!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 08:44:15 PM
Very keen to see Luka Doncic play. Hopefully he doesn't carve us up. Good play by Tatum
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 08:46:41 PM
Surely Dallas can't keep shooting this well.  I hope.  Doncic is destroying us.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 08:46:46 PM
Terrible weakside/help defense so far.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 08:48:00 PM
Why do we always seem to leave someone wide open on the perimeter?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: JSD on November 24, 2018, 08:48:13 PM
2 minutes watching Luka you realize how bad the Hawks goofed
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 08:48:18 PM
TATUM! Man, he's really turned a corner the last 8 games or so. Looks like he did last year, only more confident now.

And I don't think it's a coincidence that this has corresponded with less midrange pull up jumpers  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: knuckleballer on November 24, 2018, 08:49:10 PM
I can't believe the Hawks traded Doncic away. 
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 08:49:17 PM
TATUM!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 08:52:20 PM
Good shot Jaylen playing to your strengths
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 08:52:53 PM
Terrible call.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 08:53:41 PM
Terrible call from the refs which cost us a 2
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 08:54:19 PM
Doncic lighting us up
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 08:54:23 PM
that was a garbage call on Jaylen...Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 08:54:27 PM
Oh my goodness, Doncic.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 08:54:36 PM
F'ing Doncic.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 08:54:55 PM
Doncic lighting us up

only when we switch Jaylen off of him
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 08:54:59 PM
that was a garbage call on Jaylen...****?

BS call set up an 8-0 run for them, too.  >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 08:55:03 PM
Omg what a dagger that was from Doncic after getting kyrie in the air
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 08:55:26 PM
On Smart's previous shot attempt it looked like he got bodied up from behind while he was in the air.  No call.  Meanwhile Doncic got that weak ass foul call earlier.  Nonsense.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 08:55:56 PM
6-6 from 3.  Can't play with that.  C's not off to a bad start, Mavs are smoking. 
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 24, 2018, 08:56:01 PM
Omg what a dagger that was from Doncic after getting kyrie in the air

Hate those first quarter daggers.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 08:56:04 PM
Doncic already getting star calls? He jumps on Jaylen's back and that's an offensive foul on Jaylen Brown?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 08:56:15 PM
that was a garbage call on Jaylen...****?

BS call set up an 8-0 run for them, too.  >:(

that was one of the worst calls I have seen in a while.  since when can't a guy post up?  how is that a foul?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 08:56:16 PM
Wow the Hawks were really stupid...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 08:56:31 PM
dallas is 6-6 on three pointers. incredible.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 08:56:35 PM
that was a garbage call on Jaylen...****?

BS call set up an 8-0 run for them, too.  >:(

Worst thing was the official was right there too
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mr. dee on November 24, 2018, 08:57:02 PM
dallas is 6-6 on three pointers. incredible.

Hopefully, that's not sustainable.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 08:57:43 PM
dallas is 6-6 on three pointers. incredible.
kind of like us last night in the first...surely they will start missing eventually.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 08:58:25 PM
What BS. 7-7 threes...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 08:58:46 PM
What the hell is Kyrie doing?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 08:58:47 PM
The Mavs can't keep this 3 point shooting up all game.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: knuckleballer on November 24, 2018, 08:59:01 PM
Soon Scal will be telling us that Doncic has been playing pro since he was in the womb.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Atzar on November 24, 2018, 08:59:09 PM
Don't overreact.  Dallas won't keep shooting 100% from three.

Just settle down and play good basketball.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 08:59:38 PM
Feels like most of our possessions are just Kyrie driving, drawing defenders and then kicking out but in the process throwing the ball too hard at a guy who doesn't really expect it and it leads to turnovers... SMH
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:00:02 PM
Baynes two turnovers with butterfingers already
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
Aint nothing like a Marcus Smart homecoming game, whether that be Dallas or OKC!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:01:25 PM
The annual tradition of trailing by 10+ in the first quarter  ::)

Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:01:26 PM
Aint nothing like a Marcus Smart homecoming game, whether that be Dallas or OKC!

Like I said lol

$300 there's another Smart three/heat check on the next two possessions! Takers?!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:01:45 PM
Dallas is making incredible cross court passes while our defenders fall asleep and are late on the closeout.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:01:46 PM
Come on C's -- big finish.  No more 3's Marcus.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:01:54 PM
2 treys from smart he’s going to start heat checking now
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:02:20 PM
Jayson!!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:03:04 PM
Very tough shot from Tatum that look like a disaster in the making
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:03:15 PM
Apologies guys but can someone tell me the score? My online stream froze for good and apparently Google is stuck on it being 13-12 Dallas  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:03:28 PM
Apologies guys but can someone tell me the score? My online stream froze for good and apparently Google is stuck on it being 13-12 Dallas  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:03:30 PM
The Baynes 3's have to stop.  Unless they're within the flow of the offense and they're shot from the corner, it's not a good shot at all.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:03:43 PM
Okay, Baynes... You have both Tatum and Smart who are hot right now, and you take a wing three with like 8 seconds left on the shot clock in an end of quarter scenario??
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:04:07 PM
Apologies guys but can someone tell me the score? My online stream froze for good and apparently Google is stuck on it being 13-12 Dallas  :P


Dallas 32-26 after 1
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 09:04:12 PM
Not bad, the Mavs smashed us with a haymaker and we're only down 6.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:04:33 PM
The Baynes 3's have to stop.  Unless they're within the flow of the offense and they're shot from the corner, it's not a good shot at all.

And, to be clear, that last three was NOT in the flow of the offense, especially with Tatum and Smart both hot right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: JSD on November 24, 2018, 09:04:46 PM
Apologies guys but can someone tell me the score? My online stream froze for good and apparently Google is stuck on it being 13-12 Dallas  :P

32 to 26 Mavs after 1 quarter
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 09:04:49 PM
considering how much went well for Dallas, C's should be further behind than just 6 at the end of 1
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:05:20 PM
Apologies guys but can someone tell me the score? My online stream froze for good and apparently Google is stuck on it being 13-12 Dallas  :P


Dallas 32-26 after 1

TP and thanks!  ;D

Honestly being down by just 6 after the way Doncic and Dallas shot from behind the arc is pretty remarkable.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:05:30 PM
We dodged a bullet by being down just 6 after they started like a house on fire. Knew the law of averages would catch up to them

Let’s make the most of it and have a better second quarter
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:05:35 PM
Apologies guys but can someone tell me the score? My online stream froze for good and apparently Google is stuck on it being 13-12 Dallas  :P

32 to 26 Mavs after 1 quarter

Thanks. TP!  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:05:43 PM
Got to like being down 6.   Hitting first 7 3's is pretty good.  Mavs playing tough, lots of movement and energy. 
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:06:27 PM
Apologies guys but can someone tell me the score? My online stream froze for good and apparently Google is stuck on it being 13-12 Dallas  :P


Dallas 32-26 after 1

TP and thanks!  ;D

Honestly being down by just 6 after the way Doncic and Dallas shot from behind the arc is pretty remarkable.

They started missing from 3 and we made some tough shots, we dodged a bullet
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 09:06:33 PM
Apologies guys but can someone tell me the score? My online stream froze for good and apparently Google is stuck on it being 13-12 Dallas  :P


Dallas 32-26 after 1
which is amazing considering how dallas shot that first quarter. celtics played the 3 point line better in the last part, thank god.

celtis need tougher defense to prevent drives to the basket by dallas AND the celtics need to drive to the basket more.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:07:16 PM
Smart does everything right and can't finish the 3 footer.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:07:56 PM
Brad HAS to be insisting that the guys go to Tatum right now. Dude is hitting everything right now, yet the first three possessions he hasn't touched the ball.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:08:38 PM
What a horrible shot by Rozier.  You knew that was going to be a brick the second it left his hands.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:08:39 PM
Just feels like this is the game Tatum has 30+

And we might need it with Doncic on the other side heating up.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:09:12 PM
Hmm 6-1 fouls and we're virtually identical on the shot selection  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:09:46 PM
So many bad turnovers.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:10:03 PM
Just freaking sit Rozier. Between terrible shot selection and p--- poor transition defense, he's doing nothing but killing us right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:10:12 PM
The Baynes 3's have to stop.  Unless they're within the flow of the offense and they're shot from the corner, it's not a good shot at all.

Believe it or not, he's actually shooting better from above the break than from the corner (33.3% from the corner, 35.5% overall meaning that above the break is above 35.5%).

Sample sizes are super small, but it kind if makes sense if his defender is further away from him on above-the-break 3s than corner 3s
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:10:37 PM
Oh Al. How the hell do you miss that?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: JSD on November 24, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
The Smart shooting incredible from 3 but Celtics losing phenomenon continues
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: coco on November 24, 2018, 09:10:44 PM
The Baynes 3's have to stop.  Unless they're within the flow of the offense and they're shot from the corner, it's not a good shot at all.

Players don’t know what a bad shot is anymore.  I don’t care what analytics say....a Baynes 3pt attempt in never a good shot
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 09:10:55 PM
Al struggling to hit his normal inside shots this season.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:11:50 PM
Don’t mind Al taking those paint shots even if he misses
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:11:54 PM
Even though you've made three threes, Smart, that's a bad shot off the offensive rebound.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:12:07 PM
Dallas 8 for 13 from 3.  Of course.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:12:55 PM
There you go, Rozier. That's a good shot for you.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:14:00 PM
Now that’s a good wide open 3 from rozier don’t mind those either
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:15:01 PM
The Baynes 3's have to stop.  Unless they're within the flow of the offense and they're shot from the corner, it's not a good shot at all.

Believe it or not, he's actually shooting better from above the break than from the corner (33.3% from the corner, 35.5% overall meaning that above the break is above 35.5%).

Sample sizes are super small, but it kind if makes sense if his defender is further away from him on above-the-break 3s than corner 3s

Last season I think Baynes was really only shooting corner 3's, and he shot them at a good %.  This year he's taking way more shots from the top and the wing areas of the 3 line.  I'd expect his corner% to be higher eventually.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:15:35 PM
Mavs impressive.  They play aggressive D and have been solid offensively.  They look well on their way to a quick transition from the Dirk era.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
We're still very well in this. But we've got to stop with the stupid turnovers.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 09:17:17 PM
Mavs hitting everything right now. If they come back down to earth, we have a chance
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CelticsElite on November 24, 2018, 09:17:32 PM
Guess who’s on pace to drop 40?


Page 1:
Who’s ready for doncic dropping 40?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: knuckleballer on November 24, 2018, 09:17:39 PM
Looking for threes first, not driving to the rim, not getting to the line... Celtics basketball... sigh.   :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 09:17:56 PM
Mavs impressive.  They play aggressive D and have been solid offensively.  They look well on their way to a quick transition from the Dirk era.



Kinda like we use to be.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:17:57 PM
Guess who’s on pace to drop 40?


Page 1:
Who’s ready for doncic dropping 40?

Tatum?  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:17:58 PM
Nice and aggressive from Rozier more of that please
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:18:15 PM
Oh good Lord that's a weak foul, zebra.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:18:48 PM
The Baynes 3's have to stop.  Unless they're within the flow of the offense and they're shot from the corner, it's not a good shot at all.

Believe it or not, he's actually shooting better from above the break than from the corner (33.3% from the corner, 35.5% overall meaning that above the break is above 35.5%).

Sample sizes are super small, but it kind if makes sense if his defender is further away from him on above-the-break 3s than corner 3s

Last season I think Baynes was really only shooting corner 3's, and he shot them at a good %.  This year he's taking way more shots from the top and the wing areas of the 3 line.  I'd expect his corner% to be higher eventually.

Could be. I wonder how similar players (older big men with good mid-range that they extended out to 3 point range) would compare

Who even is a comp for that? Horford, Marc Gasol, Brook Lopez?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:19:29 PM
God, Rozier really is terrible defensively. Barea just eating him up.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:20:01 PM
Burned on pick and roll again
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:20:25 PM
Loving Semi this year.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 09:20:43 PM
Rozier with a bad contested shot.  always pressing too much
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:20:47 PM
God, Rozier really is terrible defensively. Barea just eating him up.

Just freaking bench him already, Brad!

And then he comes down and takes a quick pull up midrange shot  ::) Grow a pair and bench him already!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 09:21:06 PM
Barea burning Rozier. Sit T Ro! He’s a sieve and a ball hog
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 09:21:53 PM
cripes. another scrub having a career game agasint the celitcs.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:22:18 PM
About time DAJ got a tech give him another one
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 09:22:19 PM
Semi with a nice O board. 

good to see Jaylen driving aggressively
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:22:33 PM
Will Jaylen finish those regularly in a couple of years?  Seems he should.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:22:39 PM
Look much better and more aggressive on both sides of the ball right now (outside of Barea owning Rozier, that is).
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:22:47 PM
I had a string of cuss words after that long midrange jumper by Terry.  Lowest of the low IQ in terms of shot quality.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mr. dee on November 24, 2018, 09:23:22 PM
Semi is a revelation this season. He's not as bad as last year.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:23:31 PM
I miss the Rozier of the home playoff games last year (minus ECF Game 7)
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 09:23:35 PM
good. attack the basket!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:23:42 PM
Feels like a lottery every time Jaylen goes to the line
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:24:03 PM
why KI on Doncic?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 09:24:11 PM
Jaylen's having a much better offensive game tonight.  more focussed on driving and getting could inside shots rather than chucking a bunch of 3's
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:24:49 PM
Aside from the turnovers our offense is fine.  But Dallas is still shooting 57% for the game.  Really gotta hope that they cool off in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:24:55 PM
Brad is freaking killing us with these rotation decisions. Rozier has played for 12 minutes already, and in addition with just being terrible in himself, his presence out there is forcing Kyrie to guard Doncic, which isn't exactly ideal.

Get Smart back out there; it's not freaking rocket science, Brad...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: PAOBoston on November 24, 2018, 09:25:05 PM
Why is Irving on Doncic???? It makes no sense.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:25:10 PM
Doncic has ROY in the bag I think
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 09:25:24 PM
Both teams both playing great ball. Very good game thus far.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:25:35 PM
Semi is a revelation this season. He's not as bad as last year.

Absolutely a different player.   Sounds cliche but I think he feels like he belongs on the court.  Seems to have far more confidence.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
why KI on Doncic?

Because Rozier is on Barea.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:26:26 PM
Why is Irving on Doncic???? It makes no sense.

We need to hide Rozier on Barea
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:26:31 PM
I miss the Rozier of the home playoff games last year (minus ECF Game 7)

I was wondering where you were going with this before seeing the (minus ECF Game 7) clause lol
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:26:41 PM
This is an entertaining game.

Unfortunately Dallas is red hot and Rozier is logging in heavy minutes so far...  >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:26:44 PM
Why is Irving on Doncic???? It makes no sense.


Mystifying. Giving about 6 inches. Guy is freaking good. 
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:27:14 PM
why KI on Doncic?

Because it's either him or Rozier, who he'll shoot right over. Brad is creating this problem by keeping him out there so long. It makes no sense...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:27:39 PM
I miss the Rozier of the home playoff games last year (minus ECF Game 7)

I was wondering where you were going with this before seeing the (minus ECF Game 7) clause lol

Yeah I mean Rozier actually helped us in the playoffs in Kyrie's absence but he was still mediocre on the road and unfortunately that ECF Game 7. But those home playoff games is where Scary Terry was truly born
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:28:13 PM
Dallas is 10/19 on 3s and we're only down 7? I'll take it I guess
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:28:33 PM
My lord.  19? Really?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:30:00 PM
Finally Barnes misses
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:30:03 PM
Dallas has actually missed 11 of their last 14 3-point attempts.

Unfortunately we haven't really trimmed the deficit from what it was at the end of the 1st.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:30:26 PM
HELL OF A FINISH BY MORRIS!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 09:30:29 PM
nice bucket by Morris  == no panic to chuck up a bad shot
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:30:51 PM
Some ugly moments but a good 2nd quarter.  I'll take being down 3 after getting blitz by Dallas' shooting.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kiorrik on November 24, 2018, 09:31:19 PM
I honestly miss Paul Pierce ISOs.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:31:40 PM
Good hard drive by Morris all to play for still. Doncic is for real though.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:31:44 PM
Entertaining half and we're very much in it.

To be down just 3 after the way Dallas shot that half is actually huge.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: satch on November 24, 2018, 09:31:59 PM
Kyrie and Brad have words during a timeout??
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 09:32:01 PM
We're giving up too many open looks. Close out!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:32:23 PM
Dallas has actually missed 11 of their last 14 3-point attempts.

Unfortunately we haven't really trimmed the deficit from what it was at the end of the 1st.

They had to, hopefully they keep throwing them up :D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:32:40 PM
Nice MM!!

Impressive that the C's are down 3. VERY impressive.   If this is the Mavs for real -- watch out.  But I can' believe they can play at this level for 48.  If C's can sustain, they have a great chance tonight.  Good that they had a relatively light night last night.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:32:41 PM
Kyrie and Brad have words during a timeout??

I read that Kyrie and Jerome Allen were having a heated discussion.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 09:32:47 PM
I’m digging this offense where we’re taking a lot of 2’s. Jaylen Brown in particular has really looked to get inside. This is how brown needs to play!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 09:33:03 PM
One thing we've got to do is tighten up on perimeter defense.

If we're giving Dallas a lot of open looks in the 2nd half then they'll continue to kill us.

Always feels like there's 1 guy just left WIDE OPEN behind the arc...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:33:33 PM
Kyrie and Brad have words during a timeout??
when?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:33:39 PM
Nice MM!!

Impressive that the C's are down 3. VERY impressive.   If this is the Mavs for real -- watch out.  But I can' believe they can play at this level for 48.  If C's can sustain, they have a great chance tonight.  Good that they had a relatively light night last night.

Yeah, outside of a few breakdowns defensively, I thought we've been pretty good tonight. Especially offensively it seems like we've had a much more consistent and solid game.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:35:17 PM
Kyrie and Brad have words during a timeout??

I read that Kyrie and Jerome Allen were having a heated discussion.
. When was this? I didn’t see anything
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 09:35:57 PM
Dallas doing everything they can to take advantage of the Celtics all switch defense. KI guarding Doncic was mostly because they ran picks to get the matchup they want. Doncic has not been hurting the C's when Brown and Morris has been on him but Doncic is killing the Celtics once those two players switch off him.

Harrison Barnes is not going to go for 5 more 3 pointers. Dallas is not going to make another 10 3 pointers. If Boston plays like they did that half, they win the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on November 24, 2018, 09:36:42 PM
Dallas has some balance. The Celtics are going to have to take it from them.

Semi looks great with the ball, just needs to take a shot or two.

Not sure if they've got it yet, but , they look better. Morris' drive at 3 seconds was about as much life as I've seen out of the starters this season.

If you're not willing to die for it?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:37:28 PM
Thinking of bright spots this season: 

Morris
Semi
Baynes

These 3 have played as good or better than expected throughout the season so far.   

Everyone else has generally underperformed, been inconsistent, or started slow.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 09:37:53 PM
Dallas doing everything they can to take advantage of the Celtics all switch defense. KI guarding Doncic was mostly because they ran picks to get the matchup they want. Doncic has not been hurting the C's when Brown and Morris has been on him but Doncic is killing the Celtics once those two players switch off him.

Harrison Barnes is not going to go for 5 more 3 pointers. Dallas is not going to make another 10 3 pointers. If Boston plays like they did that half, they win the game.



Sounds like a plan.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:39:45 PM
Dallas doing everything they can to take advantage of the Celtics all switch defense. KI guarding Doncic was mostly because they ran picks to get the matchup they want. Doncic has not been hurting the C's when Brown and Morris has been on him but Doncic is killing the Celtics once those two players switch off him.

Harrison Barnes is not going to go for 5 more 3 pointers. Dallas is not going to make another 10 3 pointers. If Boston plays like they did that half, they win the game.


They must have gotten the switches early in the possession, I didn't see the picks -- seemed a couple of times KI was on LD throughout the possession, which obviously didn't make sense.   
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:40:11 PM
Pretty disappointed that Tatum hit 4 of his 5 first shots early in the first quarter and then only got one more shot up the rest of the half. We need to make that an emphasis as a team, but also he needs to be more assertive with getting those touches and shots up.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:41:34 PM
No Theis minutes yet.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:42:06 PM
Dallas doing everything they can to take advantage of the Celtics all switch defense. KI guarding Doncic was mostly because they ran picks to get the matchup they want. Doncic has not been hurting the C's when Brown and Morris has been on him but Doncic is killing the Celtics once those two players switch off him.

Harrison Barnes is not going to go for 5 more 3 pointers. Dallas is not going to make another 10 3 pointers. If Boston plays like they did that half, they win the game.


They must have gotten the switches early in the possession, I didn't see the picks -- seemed a couple of times KI was on LD throughout the possession, which obviously didn't make sense.   

The latter ones were when he was the 2 guard with Rozier at the 1 on Berea. It's been about half and half with those coming off of switches and those Kyrie guarding him straight up.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 09:42:36 PM
Dallas doing everything they can to take advantage of the Celtics all switch defense. KI guarding Doncic was mostly because they ran picks to get the matchup they want. Doncic has not been hurting the C's when Brown and Morris has been on him but Doncic is killing the Celtics once those two players switch off him.

Harrison Barnes is not going to go for 5 more 3 pointers. Dallas is not going to make another 10 3 pointers. If Boston plays like they did that half, they win the game.


They must have gotten the switches early in the possession, I didn't see the picks -- seemed a couple of times KI was on LD throughout the possession, which obviously didn't make sense.   
Haven't been hard picks they just run a player towards Doncic, Doncic goes the other way and the Celtics switch. I also think coming down court, Kyrie picked up Doncic once and the C's got burned by it.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:46:16 PM
First play out of the half is a 3.  MM got a great look.  Gotta make it.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:48:14 PM
Ugly start to the half.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:48:31 PM
Surely we can come up with a better possession than that
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 09:49:19 PM
Yay Jaylen. Get in the paint! Be aggressive!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:49:43 PM
Kyries Hollywood experience paid off there
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:49:54 PM
How about a foul for Tatum there, zebras?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:50:10 PM
I'm still not sure how that Kyrie shot didn't go down
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 09:50:43 PM
Tatum is an antelope on those drives -- and so under control.   I admit Doncic at 19 is ahead of the curve, but Tatum may not be too far behind.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:53:18 PM
DJ definitely deserved a T there
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:53:52 PM
Wait, who got the technical there? Was it DJ for hanging on the rim? If so that's number two on him.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:54:11 PM
Eh Brown just stood there.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:54:43 PM
Doncic is p---ed at Jaylen... because Doncic wasn't looking and ran into him? Really?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:54:43 PM
That’s Lukas fault for not looking where he was going
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mctyson on November 24, 2018, 09:55:08 PM
it was weak but that was a dirty play by Jaylen
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:55:43 PM
it was weak but that was a dirty play by Jaylen

Uhh, you'll have to explain that to me
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:55:51 PM
Lol more European flopping, or at least embellishment.

He's the one that ran into him. Watch where you're going. Maybe if you weren't staring down Kyrie you would've seen Brown in front of you.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:56:06 PM
Give Doncic a T for playacting and DAJ a T for hanging on the rim.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mctyson on November 24, 2018, 09:56:29 PM
it was weak but that was a dirty play by Jaylen

Uhh, you'll have to explain that to me

Lowered his shoulder right into him on purpose
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: keevsnick on November 24, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
it was weak but that was a dirty play by Jaylen

Uhh, you'll have to explain that to me

Lowered his shoulder right into him on purpose

No he did not
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:56:50 PM
I don't know how the hell that's a Tech
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 09:57:06 PM
He never even saw Jaylen standing there...he was surprised more than anything.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:57:39 PM
it was weak but that was a dirty play by Jaylen

Uhh, you'll have to explain that to me

Lowered his shoulder right into him on purpose

Doncic was running right into him. Anybody in that situation is gonna brace when they see him coming
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:57:40 PM
Eh, I'm okay with a technical foul on Brown there. Could've went either way, but that's as much on Doncic as it is Brown for not watching where he's going.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mctyson on November 24, 2018, 09:57:50 PM
it was weak but that was a dirty play by Jaylen

Uhh, you'll have to explain that to me

Lowered his shoulder right into him on purpose

No he did not

lol yes he did Jaylen watched him run right into him and put his shoulder in his chest

stop being a homer
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 09:57:57 PM
Isn’t that Jordan’s 2nd T
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:58:03 PM
Man Kyrie is off.  He's lost the dribble so many times this game.  Really uncharacteristic. 
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 09:58:07 PM
Wait a minute, didn't DJ get a technical earlier?? How is he still playing??
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mctyson on November 24, 2018, 09:58:28 PM
it was weak but that was a dirty play by Jaylen

Uhh, you'll have to explain that to me

Lowered his shoulder right into him on purpose

Doncic was running right into him. Anybody in that situation is gonna brace when they see him coming

HAHAHA

Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: keevsnick on November 24, 2018, 09:58:29 PM
it was weak but that was a dirty play by Jaylen

Uhh, you'll have to explain that to me

Lowered his shoulder right into him on purpose

No he did not

lol yes he did Jaylen watched him run right into him and put his shoulder in his chest

stop being a homer

No he did not
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 24, 2018, 09:58:42 PM
Didn't Jordan have a technical for arguing with the refs earlier in the game? Shouldn't that be a disqualification?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:58:57 PM
I thought DJ got a tech earlier?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 09:59:25 PM
We're going to have to play lights out to win this game.  Dallas is still playing extremely well.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 09:59:29 PM
it was weak but that was a dirty play by Jaylen

Uhh, you'll have to explain that to me

Lowered his shoulder right into him on purpose

Doncic was running right into him. Anybody in that situation is gonna brace when they see him coming

HAHAHA

Brilliant argument
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hodgy03038 on November 24, 2018, 09:59:53 PM
Barnes put himself on the all star ballot tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:00:31 PM
Doncic has p---ed the Celtics off now
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:00:51 PM
Didn't Jordan have a technical for arguing with the refs earlier in the game? Shouldn't that be a disqualification?

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1066526333990248449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1066526333990248449&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics

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Apparently DeAndre Jordan is not getting thrown out for the second tech, as it was deemed "non-unsportsmanlike." Haven't heard that one before. Meanwhile, Jaylen Brown was given one for giving a shoulder to Luka Doncic as the rookie was running upcourt.

Anyone ever heard of this??
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:00:56 PM
among the many wondering how DJ is still in the game after what should have been a second tech. 

is he allowed to stay in the game because he's now on Double Secret Probation?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 24, 2018, 10:01:00 PM
Didn't Jordan have a technical for arguing with the refs earlier in the game? Shouldn't that be a disqualification?

Confirmed. Jordan has two technicals this game and is still playing. Any idea why this is?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:01:02 PM
Doncic has p---ed the Celtics off now

DJ, too
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:01:12 PM
11 - 6 fouls  ::) More inconsistent, incompetent officiating.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:01:27 PM
Doncic has p---ed the Celtics off now
Good - they need a little more passion
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:01:52 PM
Man Dallas is getting some seriously questionable calls.  Luca already gets the superstar treatment apparently. 
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:01:53 PM
Doncic has p---ed the Celtics off now
Mavs seem just as fired up and refs seem to be protecting Doncic now
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:02:06 PM
12-6 fouls... even though we're taking the ball just as much to the rim and getting just as much contact. Such horsecrap.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:02:09 PM
That’s when Jaylen is at his best when he drives aggressively to the rim
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 24, 2018, 10:02:17 PM
Didn't Jordan have a technical for arguing with the refs earlier in the game? Shouldn't that be a disqualification?

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1066526333990248449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1066526333990248449&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics

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Apparently DeAndre Jordan is not getting thrown out for the second tech, as it was deemed "non-unsportsmanlike." Haven't heard that one before. Meanwhile, Jaylen Brown was given one for giving a shoulder to Luka Doncic as the rookie was running upcourt.

Anyone ever heard of this??

That's garbage.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:02:38 PM
My is Kyrie good.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on November 24, 2018, 10:02:45 PM
Feel like I'm watching a soccer game....flops
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:03:06 PM
Jaylen with 2 very nice finishes.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 10:03:18 PM
Yeeshk! These bail out calls!

But [dang] Kyrie is good
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 10:03:23 PM
Jays playing some awesome ball.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:03:47 PM
What a pass there! Celtics take the lead!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:03:51 PM
Proud of these C's tonight. Really nice.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Atzar on November 24, 2018, 10:03:56 PM
Keep playing ball.  I like this.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:04:05 PM
most focussed I've seen the C's on offense in a very long time.  pleasure to watch them when they play like this
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:04:18 PM
Tatum and Brown look phenomenal.  They finally both look like the players they were last season.  Is it a coincidence that Hayward is out for the game and both look good?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:04:26 PM
Doncic flopping like a landed fish and trash talking Kyrie has definitely woken up our team
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:04:34 PM
First lead - at least since I've had the game on. Getting some easy baskets, which is good.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:04:41 PM
Regardless of how tonight turns out, I'm really liking how well Tatum and Brown are playing. Both seem much more confident tonight and are taking the ball to the rim regularly. Probably helps that it seems like we're pushing the ball much more tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 10:04:42 PM
Celtics looking about as good as they have all year! Finally this is reminding me of last year.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 10:04:56 PM
I love seeing this focus to not settle for 3’s!!! Take it to the rim!!!

Jaylen has been beasting. And Kyrie playing like a superstar
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 10:05:15 PM
Jaylen Brown in the open court could be scary.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 24, 2018, 10:05:21 PM
There was a play in the second quarter where Tatum's man left him in the corner and he could have cut, but wasn't engaged.

Great players are great off-ball players (with few exceptions).
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Surferdad on November 24, 2018, 10:05:27 PM
Tatum and Brown look phenomenal.  They finally both look like the players they were last season.  Is it a coincidence that Hayward is out for the game and both look good?
Somebody predicted that response before the game, lol. 
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: RJ87 on November 24, 2018, 10:05:45 PM
Tatum and Brown look phenomenal.  They finally both look like the players they were last season.  Is it a coincidence that Hayward is out for the game and both look good?

The biggest difference is that they're taking it to the rim.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: tstorey_97 on November 24, 2018, 10:05:53 PM
There now that looked like last year....playing like they want it more than the Mavs...which shouldn't be that da*& hard.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 10:05:58 PM
FINALLY!!!!!! with out shooting 60%+ from 3 point range dallas cant win this game.

great ball movement and aggression by the celtics.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 10:05:58 PM
Tatum and Brown look phenomenal.  They finally both look like the players they were last season.  Is it a coincidence that Hayward is out for the game and both look good?
Yes, just a coincidence. Brown and Tatum have played their best ball with the starters in this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ViolentGhandi on November 24, 2018, 10:06:01 PM
Gordon who? Don't miss him one bit atm.  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:06:30 PM
Tatum and Brown look phenomenal.  They finally both look like the players they were last season.  Is it a coincidence that Hayward is out for the game and both look good?

I posted at the beginning of this thread that I was wondering how long before this was mentioned  :laugh:

My personal answer is that it’s only one game and Jaylen and jayson have significant time when Hayward isn’t on the court with them anyway. What’s different about them is not the absence of a player it’s that they are cutting and driving to the rim with purpose instead of taking lazy jump shots
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 10:06:31 PM
Tatum and Brown look phenomenal.  They finally both look like the players they were last season.  Is it a coincidence that Hayward is out for the game and both look good?

I think it’s a case of not trying to step on each other’s toes too much. I think Tatum and Brown have both looked aggressive because they don’t need to defer to Hayward. Not a case of too many mouths to feed tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:06:43 PM
Another soft call.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:07:05 PM
Didn't Jordan have a technical for arguing with the refs earlier in the game? Shouldn't that be a disqualification?

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1066526333990248449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1066526333990248449&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics

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Apparently DeAndre Jordan is not getting thrown out for the second tech, as it was deemed "non-unsportsmanlike." Haven't heard that one before. Meanwhile, Jaylen Brown was given one for giving a shoulder to Luka Doncic as the rookie was running upcourt.

Anyone ever heard of this??

That's garbage.

Anyone else heard of this??
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:07:11 PM
Tatum and Brown look phenomenal.  They finally both look like the players they were last season.  Is it a coincidence that Hayward is out for the game and both look good?

The biggest difference is that they're taking it to the rim.

This.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:07:30 PM
13-6 fouls  ::) Once again different standards of officiating on each side of the floor.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:08:22 PM
Great D by Morris there. Doncic couldn't do anything
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:08:38 PM
Morris - nice D.  Looked a little like a rookie...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:09:13 PM
Tatum and Brown look phenomenal.  They finally both look like the players they were last season.  Is it a coincidence that Hayward is out for the game and both look good?
Somebody predicted that response before the game, lol.

Yep I did  ;D it was an easy guess though  :laugh:
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:09:58 PM
Didn't Jordan have a technical for arguing with the refs earlier in the game? Shouldn't that be a disqualification?

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1066526333990248449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1066526333990248449&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics

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Apparently DeAndre Jordan is not getting thrown out for the second tech, as it was deemed "non-unsportsmanlike." Haven't heard that one before. Meanwhile, Jaylen Brown was given one for giving a shoulder to Luka Doncic as the rookie was running upcourt.

Anyone ever heard of this??

That's garbage.

Anyone else heard of this??

I usually pay a ton of attention to obscure rules, but I've never seen this before
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:10:31 PM
Sustain this defensive effort and they'll win.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:11:10 PM
Didn't Jordan have a technical for arguing with the refs earlier in the game? Shouldn't that be a disqualification?

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1066526333990248449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1066526333990248449&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics

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Apparently DeAndre Jordan is not getting thrown out for the second tech, as it was deemed "non-unsportsmanlike." Haven't heard that one before. Meanwhile, Jaylen Brown was given one for giving a shoulder to Luka Doncic as the rookie was running upcourt.

Anyone ever heard of this??

That's garbage.

Anyone else heard of this??

I usually pay a ton of attention to obscure rules, but I've never seen this before

Never heard of it
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:12:20 PM
God, Baynes has such an ugly shot.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:13:00 PM
not liking 2 3-attempts on consecutive trips down the floor - especially by Baynes and Smart
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Atzar on November 24, 2018, 10:13:05 PM
I'm about done with the 'Baynes is a three point shooter' experiment.  I don't mind the occasional corner three because it's statistically a better shot and he's shown (on limited data) that he can hit those.  But these shots from around the rest of the arc are just bricks. 
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:13:22 PM
God, Baynes has such an ugly shot.

His mid range is fine, but threes are just horrible
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:13:23 PM
Dallas bail us out on that bad Smart 3
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:13:53 PM
This lineup  makes me nervous.  Smart, Rozier, Baynes, Ojeleye.  Not enough offense, even with Tatum on the floor.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:13:58 PM
I'm about done with the 'Baynes is a three point shooter' experiment.  I don't mind the occasional corner three because it's statistically a better shot and he's shown (on limited data) that he can hit those.  But these shots from around the rest of the arc are just bricks.

He's shooting like 35% on above the break 3s...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:14:38 PM
I've always liked DJ. I'm glad that I can root for him now in Dallas; I couldn't do that when he was in L.A.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:15:12 PM
This lineup  makes me nervous.  Smart, Rozier, Baynes, Ojeleye.  Not enough offense, even with Tatum on the floor.
Yup
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 24, 2018, 10:15:29 PM
Smart has really hurt us since he came in.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:15:35 PM
C's offense back to that god awful 3-chucking nonsense.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:15:52 PM
How about a timeout to settle us down, Brad? We've used two all game and have five left... Or are you content with them getting this lead back up to double digits?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:15:57 PM
Barea is just carving Rozier up.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:15:59 PM
Come on we gotta do better than that

Now they are starting to fall into their lazy habits

Except Baynes he’s playing hard!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:16:37 PM
Nice play by Baynes.   Dallas just tough. 
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:16:48 PM
Another possession, another example of Berea owning Rozier...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 10:17:08 PM
Rozier getting buuuuuuurned again.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 24, 2018, 10:17:10 PM
Didn't Jordan have a technical for arguing with the refs earlier in the game? Shouldn't that be a disqualification?

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1066526333990248449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1066526333990248449&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fboston-celtics

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Apparently DeAndre Jordan is not getting thrown out for the second tech, as it was deemed "non-unsportsmanlike." Haven't heard that one before. Meanwhile, Jaylen Brown was given one for giving a shoulder to Luka Doncic as the rookie was running upcourt.

Anyone ever heard of this??

That's garbage.

Anyone else heard of this??

Isn’t the point of the technical for hanging on the rim is that it’s unsportsmanlike? If it wasn’t, why call a T at all?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:17:29 PM
For the love of all that is holy please bench Rozier.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
Danny, can we please trade Rozier already? I mean, what has he actually contributed to the team this year? Dude is clearly playing for his next contract to the detriment of the team.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: RJ87 on November 24, 2018, 10:18:28 PM
For the love of all that is holy please bench Rozier.

I'm really over the Rozier experience.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:18:41 PM
What a finish by Smart! Too bad we weren't based in Dallas  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:18:42 PM
Smart!!!!  Nice pass by Al.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:18:45 PM
Marcus smart is tough
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:18:48 PM
Nice Marcus
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:18:54 PM
Tatum's got to learn to box out to keep the other team off the offensive boards.  he just looks at the ball without putting a body on anyone
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 10:18:58 PM
cripes rozier, miss a lay up and then a charge?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 24, 2018, 10:19:25 PM
Smart has really hurt us since he came in.

Since then, an and-one and a steal on a lob to Jordan.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 10:19:33 PM
Rozier smh it looked like he trained with Kobe given how much he just always wants to shoot it
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:19:57 PM
Barea treating Terry like a turnstile
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Alec14 on November 24, 2018, 10:19:57 PM
I don't usually post but this lineup decision is just killing me. A tight, competitive game and we have Ojeleye, Rozier, Baynes, Smart in at the same time? None of them can score. Ugh. A Rozier can't play defense either. Brown? Horford? Morris? Kyrie?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 10:19:58 PM
Why is Barea unstoppable against us?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:19:59 PM
Nice D once again Terry, how to move those feet
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 10:20:10 PM
Danny, can we please trade Rozier already? I mean, what has he actually contributed to the team this year? Dude is clearly playing for his next contract to the detriment of the team.

Lol I feel like if Danny does trade Rozier anytime soon JPotter will throw a real life party to celebrate  :P  :laugh:
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:20:27 PM
What is Barea's ppg v. the C's.  Always.  It seems.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:21:12 PM
or was Al slow getting out to help?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 10:21:13 PM
Nice D once again Terry, how to move those feet

Lol Terry wants a statue of himself so bad, he’s playing D like one
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:21:24 PM
Way to waste a timeout Brad.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 10:21:27 PM
barera is a nobody, but of course looks like an all star against the celtics. sigh.  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: RJ87 on November 24, 2018, 10:21:34 PM
Danny, can we please trade Rozier already? I mean, what has he actually contributed to the team this year? Dude is clearly playing for his next contract to the detriment of the team.

And to the detriment of his next contract.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 10:21:45 PM
What a miserable game by Rozier thus far. He's a plus 1 which just goes to show +/- stats are ridiculously bad
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 24, 2018, 10:21:55 PM
Way to waste a timeout Brad.

Gonna lose it anyway, no?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:22:06 PM
Yet again Rozier, an elite athlete, gets owned by Barea, who is 34 years old...

And I'm glad that Brad can call a timeout with 1.6 seconds left on the clock in the third to try a hailmary play, but can't call a timeout to settle us down and set something up in the middle of the third when we were reeling  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:22:07 PM
Are these referees ever held accountable for being so bad??
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Surferdad on November 24, 2018, 10:22:16 PM
Bad no-call.  >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:22:48 PM
More incompetent officiating. The rookie Doncic apparently gets more love from the refs than a five time All-Star in Horford.  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 10:24:34 PM
More incompetent officiating. The rookie Doncic apparently gets more love from the refs than a five time All-Star in Horford.  ::)
Give it two years, Doncic will be untouchable with getting every call. He will reach LeBron, Gianni's levels.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:25:33 PM
rozier's D could best be described in one word tonight -- sieve
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:26:05 PM
The ball can't go over the top like that! That should be a dead ball!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:26:16 PM
Ah, now Brad can call a timeout. Screw it in the middle of the third with a no-offense lineup out there, though...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 10:26:19 PM
Smart switched to Barea and Rozier on Harris. All of a sudden Harris is uncorked
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 10:26:24 PM
I was told Rozier was a better player than Barea in another thread. I disagreed completely.

Mike drop.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:26:40 PM
How is that not a backboard violation??? >:(

Also terry is killing us with his defense or lack thereof
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: RJ87 on November 24, 2018, 10:26:48 PM
Wait. How is that not out of bounds?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Banner18now! on November 24, 2018, 10:27:12 PM
rozier's D could best be described in one word tonight -- sieve

Rozier is a huge liability on the floor right now. Can’t play defense  and can’t hit a shot. Complete joke tonight .
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:27:14 PM
Talk about lucky bounces.  I don't think the ball can hit behind the backboard and still be in bounds, but apparently the refs really want Dallas to win this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Alec14 on November 24, 2018, 10:27:21 PM
They are going at Rozier and it is just too easy. What the heck? Why is he still on the court? I don't understand. It's so obvious and yet Brad leaves him on the court. smh.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on November 24, 2018, 10:27:23 PM
Been out most of the evening, finally checking in. So, on our way to another loss?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Surferdad on November 24, 2018, 10:27:25 PM
The ball can't go over the top like that! That should be a dead ball!
???? What the???
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:27:31 PM
The ball can't go over the top like that! That should be a dead ball!

Is that right? I thought as long as it didn't touch any of the frame stuff it was fine if it went over the backboard on the sides.

Regardless, that was on Al with his terrible rebounding. That ball bounced right in front of him and he didn't grab it.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ViolentGhandi on November 24, 2018, 10:27:33 PM
those ref!  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 10:27:36 PM
I was told Rozier was a better player than Barea in another thread. I disagreed completely.

Mike drop.

Smh come on man I get celebrating that you were right... but dropping Mike? What did he ever do to you!!?  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 24, 2018, 10:27:44 PM
I was told Rozier was a better player than Barea in another thread. I disagreed completely.

Mike drop.

That's the third error in Rozier's coverage on screens that I've seen. I'm not all that trained in NBA defensive schemes.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CelticsElite on November 24, 2018, 10:27:49 PM
Trade rozier for barea

 who says no
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 10:27:55 PM
rozier has to play better defense and stop jacking up threes this way.

lots of time left, but the celtics need to play a lot better defense.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:28:33 PM
The ball can't go over the top like that! That should be a dead ball!

Is that right? I thought as long as it didn't touch any of the frame stuff it was fine if it went over the backboard on the sides.

No, going over the backboard at all is out of bounds
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Banner18now! on November 24, 2018, 10:28:39 PM
I was told Rozier was a better player than Barea in another thread. I disagreed completely.

Mike drop.

Barea is eating him alive it’s a complete mismatch. Mavs keep increasing the lead with JJ on the floor guarded by Terry.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 10:28:43 PM
Trade rozier for barea

 who says no

Barea himself. That's how bad he's owned Rozier so far
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:28:58 PM
rozier's D could best be described in one word tonight -- sieve trash

FTFY
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:29:21 PM
Maybe the refs thought that the ball went over in a non-unsportsmanlike fashion?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Banner18now! on November 24, 2018, 10:29:45 PM
Second unit is killing this team right now led by not scary Terry.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:29:56 PM
Rozier 1 of 6 and lousy defense all night. Why is he still out there?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:30:06 PM
anyone else let out a little cheer when Kyle said "Rozier has gone to the bench"?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:30:14 PM
God, just go up with the freaking ball, Al! Soft arse player anymore...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Phantom255x on November 24, 2018, 10:30:39 PM
Rozier on the bench!! We have a chance!
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:30:46 PM
Much better close out there from Jayson
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:32:38 PM
Looked like Baynes got kneed in the balls on that replay.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Alec14 on November 24, 2018, 10:33:15 PM
right in the didgeridoo
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:33:29 PM
Rozier 1 of 6 and lousy defense all night. Why is he still out there?

I've been asking myself that since the first quarter. It was apparent right off the bat that he didn't have it tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:33:55 PM
Get a stop
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:35:26 PM
Lol I love that our bigs are apparently scared to take the ball up to the basket even being right under the rim anymore.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:35:33 PM
bad pass Smart there.  keep taking it to the rim - don't make Baynes make a tough catch and shot in traffic
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 10:35:53 PM
Dallas playing like it's the 7th game of the championship.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:36:38 PM
Holy F how the F does Brunson get away with a pass to himself??
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
We've been struggling mightily on the offensive end after Brad put in that stupid lineup of Smart, Rozier, Ojeleye, Tatum, and Baynes.  Iced.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:36:58 PM
Why can’t we stop Barea?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:37:04 PM
bad foul by Smart.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:37:13 PM
Dallas playing like it's the 7th game of the championship.

Refs calling like it's Game 7 in 2010 (okay, maybe not THAT bad)
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:37:16 PM
Smart finally gives a hard foul, Brunson makes it anyway. Ugh.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: nickagneta on November 24, 2018, 10:37:22 PM
Come on Smart...you fouled him.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:37:53 PM
WOW Kyrie
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 10:38:06 PM
the celtics really have to make their shots.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:38:18 PM
Barea's just unconscious now
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 10:38:58 PM
Game
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:39:12 PM
Hmm, glad Barea was able to get a rhythm on Rozier all night to get him going. He should send thank you letters to both Rozier and Brad for that.  >:( Freaking idiots.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:39:16 PM
Barea destroying us
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hodgy03038 on November 24, 2018, 10:39:39 PM
Bates is an all star?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mctyson on November 24, 2018, 10:39:47 PM
I am sure you all realize this, but the Celtics are not good.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:39:51 PM
Barrea.  I was gonna say it when he stepped onto the court in the 1st.  Always.

Dallas has played great tonight. Will be disappointing if C's don't fight back here.  Let's go C's.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:39:59 PM
man we are really getting every team's best shot this year.

we haven't played overly bad this game, but the Mavs are just making things happen.

gotta rise above it and play better though
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 24, 2018, 10:40:07 PM
Every fricken game it seems like an opposing guard goes off against us. Every game.

Either the defensive scheme needs revamped, or Marcus Smart and Terry Rozier are not good enough on-ball defenders.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on November 24, 2018, 10:40:32 PM
We really shouldn’t be this bad....
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 10:40:55 PM
that's the story of this game. a bench scrub goes ballistic once more on the celtics.

the celtics can still win, but they need to stop barera and make their shots.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:41:17 PM
Every fricken game it seems like an opposing guard goes off against us. Every game.

Either the defensive scheme needs revamped, or Marcus Smart and Terry Rozier are not good enough on-ball defenders.
Scheme's not working I'd say.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:41:23 PM
man we are really getting every team's best shot this year.

we haven't played overly bad this game, but the Mavs are just making things happen.

gotta rise above it and play better though

We’ve been decent but they’ve managed to win the 50-50 moments
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Banner18now! on November 24, 2018, 10:41:32 PM
Celtics are trying hard I think the sad reality is there just not a good team. Average team. They play a half decent team and they have problems. They have 1 great player and everyone else has regressed. They get torched every night by a different player tonight it’s JJ Barea who takes his turn as Michael Jordon against the Celtics. I think they need to trade Rozier quick. Problem in the lockeroom and on the court. Still don’t know why Brad doesn’t Williams some playing time to help with defense, rebounds and energy. Can’t keep rolling out the same guys getting the same results.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hodgy03038 on November 24, 2018, 10:41:41 PM
We make all stars.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on November 24, 2018, 10:41:42 PM
Celts blow. Just about every game they get schooled by someone, and tonight it's the ancient Lilliputian.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 10:41:48 PM
Every fricken game it seems like an opposing guard goes off against us. Every game.

Either the defensive scheme needs revamped, or Marcus Smart and Terry Rozier are not good enough on-ball defenders.

FTFY
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 24, 2018, 10:42:00 PM
Hmm, glad Barea was able to get a rhythm on Rozier all night to get him going. He should send thank you letters to both Rozier and Brad for that.  >:( Freaking idiots.

Agreed. Rozier was lousy on defense in Barea, which allow him to get into rhythm, which allowed the whole Dallas offense to get into rhythm, which stretched a lead against us, which created a gap too big to overcome when the starters came back in.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 10:42:05 PM
It's clear Dallas wants this one... Badly.

Sadly this is one of our better games this year.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 24, 2018, 10:42:10 PM
Come on Smart...you fouled him.

I thought he was complaining about something (a travel?) right before that, not the foul itself.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:42:14 PM
Welp, looks like another loss.  And an official loss of a bet for me.  I never thought it'd be possible that we'd be a .500 team after 20 games, but that was the bet.  Now I owe my buddy a case of 12 expensive craft beers, which should cost me about $75.

I still think I'm more upset about how bad we've looked so far this season though.  4 and 8 in our last 12 games.  That's just pathetic.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 10:42:37 PM
I can't say that the Celtics weren't playing hard.


That's the disappointing part.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on November 24, 2018, 10:42:38 PM
Our D is looking like we are in an all star game....does every team in nba shoot lights out on us?

Is the GM for Hawks still employed? Bet they would have traded rights to Jordan, Lebron and Bird as well....If Kings took him, they would be even better..of. course Suns took the big guy...Mavericks with an amazing trade though....
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:42:46 PM
I think the book on Kyrie is try to be physical with him outside the paint
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:43:05 PM
kyrie needs to be willing to dish the ball when his shake and bake is only getting a really really difficult shot.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:43:11 PM
Let’s create some shots through ball movement not with Kyrie dribbling halfway around the court in isolation
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:43:45 PM
8 points in 8+ minutes in the 4th quarter.   Really bad time for an offensive drought.  Goes back to that stupid lineup Brad put in in the 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:43:55 PM
Tatum is so easy to get up in the air
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:44:15 PM
that was a pathetic close out Tatum, of course he buries a 3 after my criticism...lol
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:44:58 PM
Get stops, don’t bite on fakes and don’t be late on rotating
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: RJ87 on November 24, 2018, 10:45:17 PM
Tatum is so easy to get up in the air

Because he gets caught ball watching and has to rush the close out.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:45:25 PM
Well if anything positive is to come from this game, I hope it serves as a blueprint for how Jaylen should play offensively. 
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:45:39 PM
We really shouldn’t be this bad....

Funny, I don't think the C's have played poorly at all tonight.  Dallas was very tough. Game still in play.

OK, now it's not.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:45:50 PM
8 points in 8+ minutes in the 4th quarter.   Really bad time for an offensive drought.  Goes back to that stupid lineup Brad put in in the 3rd quarter.

Seems to be a theme here with poor decision-making leading to our downfall in games...

Still just blows my mind that Brad sat on his hands so long and let Rozier just nearly single-handedly take us out of this game with his terrible play on both ends.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 24, 2018, 10:45:55 PM
I can't say that the Celtics weren't playing hard.


That's the disappointing part.

Defense was not up to par. Did not defend PNR well and left plenty of open treys.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 10:45:57 PM
C’s look like they’re on their way to a 3-6 stretch. I thought we would beat Dallas. Guess not
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 10:46:18 PM
well, at least this crew doesnt give up. they are pushing the ball and working hard even down this much. that much is good.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:46:19 PM
jeez, when it rain is pours -- Mavs can't miss
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 10:46:25 PM
Again, Jaylen in the open court could be devastating.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:46:59 PM
Tatum is doing nothing to slow down matthews
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:47:20 PM
Gonna be more dissension in the ranks after this one....
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CelticSooner on November 24, 2018, 10:47:26 PM
I’m losing patience. This team is not improving.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:48:05 PM
And... Jaylens hurt?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:48:13 PM
oh that looked bad - just when Jaylen was getting it together this season
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:48:50 PM
Jaylen goes down hard hope he’s not too hurt
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 24, 2018, 10:48:51 PM
8 points in 8+ minutes in the 4th quarter.   Really bad time for an offensive drought.  Goes back to that stupid lineup Brad put in in the 3rd quarter.

Seems to be a theme here with poor decision-making leading to our downfall in games...

Still just blows my mind that Brad sat on his hands so long and let Rozier just nearly single-handedly take us out of this game with his terrible play on both ends.

i ve said Rozier is fools gold
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 24, 2018, 10:49:17 PM
I’m losing patience. This team is not improving.


Not sure how you can watch the last 2 games and conclude no improvement.  They clearly played better last night and tonight.  Obviously, not well enough tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:49:24 PM
oh that looked bad - just when Jaylen was getting it together this season

looks like he landed on his tailbone.
thats gotta hurt
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:49:34 PM
8 points in 8+ minutes in the 4th quarter.   Really bad time for an offensive drought.  Goes back to that stupid lineup Brad put in in the 3rd quarter.

Seems to be a theme here with poor decision-making leading to our downfall in games...

Still just blows my mind that Brad sat on his hands so long and let Rozier just nearly single-handedly take us out of this game with his terrible play on both ends.

i ve said Rozier is fools gold
If I were Ainge I'd send him home. They're better off without him.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:49:39 PM
8 points in 8+ minutes in the 4th quarter.   Really bad time for an offensive drought.  Goes back to that stupid lineup Brad put in in the 3rd quarter.

Seems to be a theme here with poor decision-making leading to our downfall in games...

Still just blows my mind that Brad sat on his hands so long and let Rozier just nearly single-handedly take us out of this game with his terrible play on both ends.

I just don't understand why Rozier receives so many minutes on a nightly basis.  He should be on a short leash - like when Tatum launches bad shots in iso-ball mode and gets yanked from the game by Brad.  His game management in the 2nd half has been terrible.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Surferdad on November 24, 2018, 10:49:40 PM
Jaylen with the hard fall on his hip.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mctyson on November 24, 2018, 10:50:26 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 10:50:33 PM
honestly I'm sick of this Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.-the hell was Brad Stevens doing when he benched the starters at the start of the fourth? Now we're getting blown out-Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. the Celtics
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: MJohnnyboy on November 24, 2018, 10:50:52 PM
I'm not one for hot takes, but it's time to trade Rozier.

I watched his body language. He hates his role on this team. He put little effort in this game. That's not going to change. It's only going to get worse.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:50:57 PM
Lucky on that luka travel it was a bad close out from us again
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 10:51:14 PM
Not much you could do tonight, Mavs were on fire all night long and were playing with peak intensity.

I'm not too upset with how we played, maybe there were some bad lineups in for too long at times.

JB looked like his old self with GH out.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Banner18now! on November 24, 2018, 10:51:42 PM
I just don’t see how this team gets better. It’s going to be a long season they just aren’t good enough. Dallas punked the Celtics getting chippy and taking. The Celts tried and wanted this game they just weren’t good enough. I think we are going to keep seeing this. It’s 20 games into the season we are seeing pretty much what they are. Young players who bought into their hype. Hayward who may take a year to get back to himself. Horford getting older. This is going to take a year to sort out. Maybe a little roster changes. Bu this  group of guys just simply isn’t good enough.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 10:51:55 PM
honestly I'm sick of this ****-the hell was Brad Stevens doing when he benched the starters at the start of the fourth? Now we're getting blown out-**** the Celtics



It the journey fella...It's the journey.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:52:04 PM
Tatum is 9-13, yet I only remember him shooting a couple of times lately. He simply has to be more involved in the offense, especially when he's so on like he is tonight. Kyrie is 9-24 right now, but it's hard to blame him because he's also the only one who is aggressive in getting his shot.

There's definitely chemistry issues with this team and a lack of understanding of roles. And that is on the coaching staff to fix. That we have not improved in this chemistry/clarifying of roles regard in 20 games is such a failure by the coaching staff.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CelticSooner on November 24, 2018, 10:52:05 PM
I’m losing patience. This team is not improving.


Not sure how you can watch the last 2 games and conclude no improvement.  They clearly played better last night and tonight.  Obviously, not well enough tonight.

These games shouldn’t be close. Playing .500 ball and this is the easy part of the schedule. The standard for this team is much different this year.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:52:28 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3

but the mavs have 16 made 3s and we have 9.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mctyson on November 24, 2018, 10:53:03 PM
Not much you could do tonight, Mavs were on fire all night long and were playing with peak intensity.

I'm not too upset with how we played, maybe there were some bad lineups in for too long at times.

JB looked like his old self with GH out.

LOL no they were not
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 24, 2018, 10:53:13 PM
Can we get Larkin back?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:53:14 PM
I've never really been fond of Barea. He's soft and such a flopper.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mctyson on November 24, 2018, 10:53:29 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3

but the mavs have 16 made 3s and we have 9.

Yeah they shot more 3s too...you know how percentages work right?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:53:33 PM
And that’s game

Definitely had our chances especially after the Luka dive but it all fell away when they got separation with Barea killing us
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:53:40 PM
that group on the floor in the third into the fourth killed us -- not enough offense to keep up with Dallas in that stretch.  that and Rozier was awful on both sides of the ball.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: keevsnick on November 24, 2018, 10:54:11 PM
Tatum is 9-13, yet I only remember him shooting a couple of times lately. He simply has to be more involved in the offense, especially when he's so on like he is tonight. Kyrie is 9-24 right now, but it's hard to blame him because he's also the only one who is aggressive in getting his shot.

There's definitely chemistry issues with this team and a lack of understanding of roles. And that is on the coaching staff to fix. That we have not improved in this chemistry/clarifying of roles regard in 20 games is such a failure by the coaching staff.

I think Tatum could have gtten more shots. The proble is right now you cant run an offense through him because he's not a good dsitrubutor. This limits him somewhat to off ball stuff and puts a natural cap on hw much  he can score. Unless you start running him off screens like JJ  reddick, and i think his efficiency plummets when you start doing that, then he has to become a better passer.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: slamtheking on November 24, 2018, 10:54:36 PM
I've never really been fond of Barea. He's soft and such a flopper.
um, wrong time to say that's why he never made it in the p0rn business? ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:54:50 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3

but the mavs have 16 made 3s and we have 9.

Yeah they shot more 3s too...you know how percentages work right?

yeah I think I do.  Maybe you don't understand that those 7 3s mean more points for the mavs.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
Not much you could do tonight, Mavs were on fire all night long and were playing with peak intensity.

I'm not too upset with how we played, maybe there were some bad lineups in for too long at times.

JB looked like his old self with GH out.
well one thing we can do is give out tps to soothe the wounds.  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on November 24, 2018, 10:55:03 PM
Not much you could do tonight, Mavs were on fire all night long and were playing with peak intensity.

I'm not too upset with how we played, maybe there were some bad lineups in for too long at times.

JB looked like his old self with GH out.

But isn't this basically what's been said after every loss this season? It's always that the other team "just got hot," or some guy on the opposition "just couldn't miss." Players and teams are routinely going off on Boston, which tells me Boston stinks.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:55:28 PM
Tatum is 9-13, yet I only remember him shooting a couple of times lately. He simply has to be more involved in the offense, especially when he's so on like he is tonight. Kyrie is 9-24 right now, but it's hard to blame him because he's also the only one who is aggressive in getting his shot.

There's definitely chemistry issues with this team and a lack of understanding of roles. And that is on the coaching staff to fix. That we have not improved in this chemistry/clarifying of roles regard in 20 games is such a failure by the coaching staff.

I think Tatum could have gtten more shots. The proble is right now you cant run an offense through him because he's not a good dsitrubutor. This limits him somewhat to off ball stuff and puts a natural cap on hw much  he can score. Unless you start running him off screens like JJ  reddick, and i think his efficiency plummets when you start doing that, then he has to become a better passer.

Tatum's offense wasn't the problem, his defense was at times.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 10:55:30 PM
Not much you could do tonight, Mavs were on fire all night long and were playing with peak intensity.

I'm not too upset with how we played, maybe there were some bad lineups in for too long at times.

JB looked like his old self with GH out.

LOL no they were not

Yes they were, they had answers for our runs all night long.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 10:56:03 PM
Not much you could do tonight, Mavs were on fire all night long and were playing with peak intensity.

I'm not too upset with how we played, maybe there were some bad lineups in for too long at times.

JB looked like his old self with GH out.

But isn't this basically what's been said after every loss this season? It's always that the other team "just got hot," or some guy on the opposition "just couldn't miss." Players and teams are routinely going off on Boston, which tells me Boston stinks.
^this. It's either the players are Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. or the coaching is wanking bad.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:56:13 PM
Acrimonious end to the game
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BitterJim on November 24, 2018, 10:56:27 PM
DeAndre Jordan is shooting a tech?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 24, 2018, 10:56:37 PM
Rozier is playing worst than ever.  If im coach ...he sits .

pop would not to,erate his awful play .

he needs to ride the bench


I knew we should have kept Larkin all along and traded Terry way back
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Kuberski33 on November 24, 2018, 10:56:42 PM
Kyrie 9 of 24, Al 3 of 11, Rozier 1 of 6...guards again doing a poor job of keeping Mavs guards from getting into paint. 

Al does need to play better for what he's making. Kyrie needs to play better based on the amount of time he's dominating the ball.  They're just a mess.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 10:56:51 PM
honestly I'm sick of this ****-the hell was Brad Stevens doing when he benched the starters at the start of the fourth? Now we're getting blown out-**** the Celtics

That's been a continuous theme since the beginning of the season. Not only can he not get these guys' heads on straight and clarify roles, but his rotations have just been a mess, and he consistently makes bad decisions in games that hurt us.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 10:57:24 PM
Not much you could do tonight, Mavs were on fire all night long and were playing with peak intensity.

I'm not too upset with how we played, maybe there were some bad lineups in for too long at times.

JB looked like his old self with GH out.

But isn't this basically what's been said after every loss this season? It's always that the other team "just got hot," or some guy on the opposition "just couldn't miss." Players and teams are routinely going off on Boston, which tells me Boston stinks.

We have an issue with defending the pick and roll. That’s where these guards have been killing us
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mctyson on November 24, 2018, 10:57:40 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3

but the mavs have 16 made 3s and we have 9.

Yeah they shot more 3s too...you know how percentages work right?

yeah I think I do.  Maybe you don't understand that those 7 3s mean more points for the mavs.

Yeah if they got 10 more layups that would be 20 more points...that has nothing to do with them "being on fire" or playing "can't miss" basketball like some have posted here.

This game had nothing to do with the Mavs shooting better.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 10:57:53 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 10:58:17 PM
Not much you could do tonight, Mavs were on fire all night long and were playing with peak intensity.

I'm not too upset with how we played, maybe there were some bad lineups in for too long at times.

JB looked like his old self with GH out.

But isn't this basically what's been said after every loss this season? It's always that the other team "just got hot," or some guy on the opposition "just couldn't miss." Players and teams are routinely going off on Boston, which tells me Boston stinks.
^this. It's either the players are **** or the coaching is wanking bad.

Just to me tonight we didn't have our normal mental lapses for half of each quarter, at least it looked like we were trying for the majority of the night.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 10:58:27 PM
Kyrie 9 of 24, Al 3 of 11, Rozier 1 of 6...guards again doing a poor job of keeping Mavs guards from getting into paint. 

Al does need to play better for what he's making. Kyrie needs to play better based on the amount of time he's dominating the ball.  They're just a mess.

yeah Kyrie kind of shot us out of the game during the important stretch in the 4th.  I mean a lot of games it is the opposite and he kills it in those stretches.  Tonight there was a lot of shake and bake possessions by kyrie ending in a tough shot.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 10:58:32 PM
I'm not one for hot takes, but it's time to trade Rozier.

I watched his body language. He hates his role on this team. He put little effort in this game. That's not going to change. It's only going to get worse.

He really only has himself to blame.  He bought into his own hype after playing well in the playoffs, being the beneficiary of having a solid supporting cast around him.

He's fools gold.  If he thinks he's some sort of special talent that can be a #2 or #3 option on a winning team then he's developed acute psychosis over the offseason.  He sure chucks shots like it.  Selfish, dribbles the air out of the ball, awful pick and roll player, inconsistent defensively.

That's not me being purposefully negative, it's a realistic assessment of his play this season.  This is from someone who was high on Rozier since his rookie year, even as he had his growing pains in his first two seasons.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: BringToughnessBack on November 24, 2018, 10:59:26 PM
Starting to wonder if this team will figure it out this year. We are a hot mess half the time. We are almost as close to Atlanta as we are to the Raptors-pathetic and not enjoyable to watch...

Looks like Mavericks have an heir apparent to Dirk...crazy both from Europe- Their GM. should be signed to an extension and so should the European scouts. He appears to have that it factor.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 11:00:01 PM
honestly I'm sick of this ****-the hell was Brad Stevens doing when he benched the starters at the start of the fourth? Now we're getting blown out-**** the Celtics

That's been a continuous theme since the beginning of the season. Not only can he not get these guys' heads on straight and clarify roles, but his rotations have just been a mess, and he consistently makes bad decisions in games that hurt us.
^this-I already have like 5 games off the top of my head where he killed us with rotations. If this goes on till the All-Star break (we're still hovering around .500), Brad needs to go, it's not only him who knows how to coach, I'm pretty sure we could pull off a Nick Nurse or a Mike Budenholzer.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 11:00:11 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3

but the mavs have 16 made 3s and we have 9.

Yeah they shot more 3s too...you know how percentages work right?

yeah I think I do.  Maybe you don't understand that those 7 3s mean more points for the mavs.

Yeah if they got 10 more layups that would be 20 more points...that has nothing to do with them "being on fire" or playing "can't miss" basketball like some have posted here.

This game had nothing to do with the Mavs shooting better.

I am not the one saying the mavs were on fire...  But they did shoot the 3 better than us.  39% to 35.7%.  Thats how facts work.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Rosco917 on November 24, 2018, 11:00:12 PM
No matter what you think of Smart as a player, he is a real competitor, he takes the game very seriously. He was really focused in tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 11:00:39 PM
It’s the NBA gotta work for your wins, they’re not going to come just because you’re talented. Gotta want it more than the other team
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on November 24, 2018, 11:00:40 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 11:01:50 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3

but the mavs have 16 made 3s and we have 9.

Yeah they shot more 3s too...you know how percentages work right?

yeah I think I do.  Maybe you don't understand that those 7 3s mean more points for the mavs.

Yeah if they got 10 more layups that would be 20 more points...that has nothing to do with them "being on fire" or playing "can't miss" basketball like some have posted here.

This game had nothing to do with the Mavs shooting better.

I am not the one saying the mavs were on fire...  But they did shoot the 3 better than us.  39% to 35.7%.  Thats how facts work.
Then that's on the offensive scheme (for not getting us wide open looks) or the players (Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. enough to brick open 3s-Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. YOU HORFORD). This Celtics team is in a mess right now and we need changes fast.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 11:02:39 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
we definitely deserve this humbling experience, hope we implement changes and improve.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2018, 11:03:27 PM
Well, at least Golden State beat Sacramento tonight... by one point.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: CF033 on November 24, 2018, 11:03:50 PM
I've already set my bar for this team lower, I don't believe we'll be making it out of the east because by the time we figure this out the chance for homecourt advantage will probably be long gone. I'm still watching every game though.

But I don't think we're the 2010 Miami Heat, we're nowhere near going on a big winning streak. We may drop a few games below .500 before things get better.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 11:05:25 PM
I'm not one for hot takes, but it's time to trade Rozier.

I watched his body language. He hates his role on this team. He put little effort in this game. That's not going to change. It's only going to get worse.

Sounds about right. He was behind IT. Now he’s behind Kyrie. Dude knows he’s not getting his break on this team, barring injury. He’s 100% gone after this year.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Jiri Welsch on November 24, 2018, 11:05:54 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3

but the mavs have 16 made 3s and we have 9.

Yeah they shot more 3s too...you know how percentages work right?

yeah I think I do.  Maybe you don't understand that those 7 3s mean more points for the mavs.

Yeah if they got 10 more layups that would be 20 more points...that has nothing to do with them "being on fire" or playing "can't miss" basketball like some have posted here.

This game had nothing to do with the Mavs shooting better.

I am not the one saying the mavs were on fire...  But they did shoot the 3 better than us.  39% to 35.7%.  Thats how facts work.
Then that's on the offensive scheme (for not getting us wide open looks) or the players (**** enough to brick open 3s-**** YOU HORFORD). This Celtics team is in a mess right now and we need changes fast.

I thought I was the most angry about this loss
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 11:06:19 PM
I've already set my bar for this team lower, I don't believe we'll be making out of the east because by the time we figure this out the chance for homecourt advantage will probably be long gone. I'm still watching every game though.

But I don't think we're the 2010 Miami Heat, we're nowhere near going on a big winning streak. We may drop a few games below .500 before things get better.
I doubt we'd even make the playoffs if we continue playing like this-Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. basketball and Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. coaching.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 11:08:24 PM
Well, at least Golden State beat Sacramento tonight... by one point.

And the Rockets losing to the Cabs makes me feel a little bit better ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: kmart12 on November 24, 2018, 11:08:44 PM
The defense was pretty horrible, particularly the pick and roll. We made DJ and Barea look like all-stars going toward the basket (DJ as a screener and Barea on the drive). Combine that with awful closeouts at the 3 point line and we had no chance at winning this game.

I'd love to see Kyrie cut down on those early shot clock 3's. He's so strong going toward the basket and can routinely create a better shot.

I'd also love to see Rozier play within himself; however, as several others here have mentioned, this appears to be an unreasonable expectation given how absurdly highly he thinks of himself. I'm disappointed in Rozier and had grown to appreciate his game last year; things change.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Jiri Welsch on November 24, 2018, 11:10:10 PM
We just keep getting torched by guards in our losses. Rozier wasn’t playing D when he was out there.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 11:10:26 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3

but the mavs have 16 made 3s and we have 9.

Yeah they shot more 3s too...you know how percentages work right?

yeah I think I do.  Maybe you don't understand that those 7 3s mean more points for the mavs.

Yeah if they got 10 more layups that would be 20 more points...that has nothing to do with them "being on fire" or playing "can't miss" basketball like some have posted here.

This game had nothing to do with the Mavs shooting better.

I am not the one saying the mavs were on fire...  But they did shoot the 3 better than us.  39% to 35.7%.  Thats how facts work.
Then that's on the offensive scheme (for not getting us wide open looks) or the players (**** enough to brick open 3s-**** YOU HORFORD). This Celtics team is in a mess right now and we need changes fast.

I thought I was the most angry about this loss
I've been angry at the Celtics ever since we lost to Denver-the play is god awful.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 11:10:38 PM
It’s the NBA gotta work for your wins, they’re not going to come just because you’re talented. Gotta want it more than the other team

Honestly, this is what it really boils down to. We're not consistently playing with the energy and intensity that we need to, and that largely goes back to our issues with chemistry and not having clearly defined roles, which has got to guys' heads. Two things need to happen immediately:

1) Trade Rozier. He's obviously a cancer to this team right now. Not only is he terrible on the court on both sides of the ball, but he seems to be a major factor of the locker room discord.

2) Sit the guys down for a team meeting. CLARIFY THE FREAKING ROLES WITH THEM. Brad just can't be his little nice guy self anymore; he has to take a stand here and make the decision like the leader he is supposed to be.

Coaching isn't always easy, and sometimes he has to make tough decisions and be tough with the guys. Right now is one of those times. And if he can't do it, then we need to find someone else who can. We're a quarter of the way through the season already, and we look worse than we did at the start, which is largely on the shoulders of the coaching staff for not being able to address these chemistry issues and clarify these roles for the players, i.e. the primary point of their jobs...
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: LilRip on November 24, 2018, 11:10:50 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3

but the mavs have 16 made 3s and we have 9.

Yeah they shot more 3s too...you know how percentages work right?

yeah I think I do.  Maybe you don't understand that those 7 3s mean more points for the mavs.

Yeah if they got 10 more layups that would be 20 more points...that has nothing to do with them "being on fire" or playing "can't miss" basketball like some have posted here.

This game had nothing to do with the Mavs shooting better.

I am not the one saying the mavs were on fire...  But they did shoot the 3 better than us.  39% to 35.7%.  Thats how facts work.
Then that's on the offensive scheme (for not getting us wide open looks) or the players (**** enough to brick open 3s-**** YOU HORFORD). This Celtics team is in a mess right now and we need changes fast.

I thought I was the most angry about this loss

Lol well we all are. But as the old saying goes, there’s always Somebody doing it more than you  :P have a TP
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 11:12:33 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
we definitely deserve this humbling experience, hope we implement changes and improve.

I mean, we've had how many humbling experiences thus far? lol Still nothing has changed.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: kmart12 on November 24, 2018, 11:15:41 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
we definitely deserve this humbling experience, hope we implement changes and improve.

I mean, we've had how many humbling experiences thus far? lol Still nothing has changed.

Right. Also, how many of these losses will it take for it to finally be considered a proper appropriate reaction to be worried about this team?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 11:16:24 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
we definitely deserve this humbling experience, hope we implement changes and improve.

I mean, we've had how many humbling experiences thus far? lol Still nothing has changed.
practice makes perfect?  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on November 24, 2018, 11:16:59 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
we definitely deserve this humbling experience, hope we implement changes and improve.

I mean, we've had how many humbling experiences thus far? lol Still nothing has changed.

Right. Also, how many of these losses will it take for it to finally be considered a proper appropriate reaction to be worried about this team?

Come on, dude, we're only a WHOLE FREAKIN' QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH THE SEASON.  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 24, 2018, 11:17:09 PM
this so bad , its kinda funny at this point.

like ...why waste effort being mad

its CBS and Danny turn up to bat now ....their move

just gonna sit back and watch
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: kmart12 on November 24, 2018, 11:22:23 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
we definitely deserve this humbling experience, hope we implement changes and improve.

I mean, we've had how many humbling experiences thus far? lol Still nothing has changed.

Right. Also, how many of these losses will it take for it to finally be considered a proper appropriate reaction to be worried about this team?

Come on, dude, we're only a WHOLE FREAKIN' QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH THE SEASON.  ;D

You're right, I guess we'll reserve judgment until game 83  :laugh:
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 11:22:55 PM
For those saying that the "Mavs just can't miss"...the teams are basically shooting with identical % for 2 and 3

but the mavs have 16 made 3s and we have 9.

Yeah they shot more 3s too...you know how percentages work right?

yeah I think I do.  Maybe you don't understand that those 7 3s mean more points for the mavs.

Yeah if they got 10 more layups that would be 20 more points...that has nothing to do with them "being on fire" or playing "can't miss" basketball like some have posted here.

This game had nothing to do with the Mavs shooting better.

I am not the one saying the mavs were on fire...  But they did shoot the 3 better than us.  39% to 35.7%.  Thats how facts work.
Then that's on the offensive scheme (for not getting us wide open looks) or the players (**** enough to brick open 3s-**** YOU HORFORD). This Celtics team is in a mess right now and we need changes fast.

I thought I was the most angry about this loss

Lol well we all are. But as the old saying goes, there’s always Somebody doing it more than you  :P have a TP
haha have a TP lil
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 11:24:17 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
we definitely deserve this humbling experience, hope we implement changes and improve.

I mean, we've had how many humbling experiences thus far? lol Still nothing has changed.

Right. Also, how many of these losses will it take for it to finally be considered a proper appropriate reaction to be worried about this team?

Come on, dude, we're only a WHOLE FREAKIN' QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH THE SEASON.  ;D
When we miss the playoffs, fire Brad Stevens, hire a proper coach with proper rotations and a proper idea of how to utilize big men and clean house with the players jk
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 24, 2018, 11:25:17 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
we definitely deserve this humbling experience, hope we implement changes and improve.

I mean, we've had how many humbling experiences thus far? lol Still nothing has changed.

Right. Also, how many of these losses will it take for it to finally be considered a proper appropriate reaction to be worried about this team?

Come on, dude, we're only a WHOLE FREAKIN' QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH THE SEASON.  ;D
When we miss the playoffs, fire Brad Stevens, hire a proper coach with proper rotations and a proper idea of how to utilize big men and clean house with the players jk
and if they make the playoffs you have a serving of crow?  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 11:31:42 PM
Smart just said lack of effort is what is killing them
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 11:34:34 PM
Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 11:38:25 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
we definitely deserve this humbling experience, hope we implement changes and improve.

I mean, we've had how many humbling experiences thus far? lol Still nothing has changed.

Right. Also, how many of these losses will it take for it to finally be considered a proper appropriate reaction to be worried about this team?

Come on, dude, we're only a WHOLE FREAKIN' QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH THE SEASON.  ;D
When we miss the playoffs, fire Brad Stevens, hire a proper coach with proper rotations and a proper idea of how to utilize big men and clean house with the players jk
and if they make the playoffs you have a serving of crow?  ;D
uhh you missed the jk ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 24, 2018, 11:38:47 PM
Celtic pride is in tatters...we let the Mavs insult us by sending DeAndre Jordan to shoot the tech FT >:(

Punk move by Dallas, but Boston deserved it. The Celts being 10-10 in this "championship or bust" season is really like being 4-16 most seasons—wayyyyyyy below expectations.

Of course, Boston has built-in excuses tonight that I'm sure some fans will point to—second night of a back-to-back, on the road, no Hayward, Dallas has been hot. Whatever. Every night it's a different set of excuses for the same p----poor result.
we definitely deserve this humbling experience, hope we implement changes and improve.

I mean, we've had how many humbling experiences thus far? lol Still nothing has changed.

Right. Also, how many of these losses will it take for it to finally be considered a proper appropriate reaction to be worried about this team?

Come on, dude, we're only a WHOLE FREAKIN' QUARTER OF THE WAY THROUGH THE SEASON.  ;D
When we miss the playoffs, fire Brad Stevens, hire a proper coach with proper rotations and a proper idea of how to utilize big men and clean house with the players jk


actually this is what would happen with Lakers no doubt and maybe Knicks if they had this much talent and played this awful.

Im not for firing Brad for one one bad season.   But , in the NBA ,  two years in a row with this talent and going back to under .500......

well that gets most people fired , not gonna say his job is safe after this year .   
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: mr. dee on November 24, 2018, 11:38:51 PM
Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart

What did he say?
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 24, 2018, 11:39:00 PM
Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart

What all did he say?

I bet it does have to be frustrating for him, as he's someone that gives it all he has every game (for better or worse).
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 11:39:47 PM
Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart

What all did he say?

I bet it does have to be frustrating for him, as he's someone that gives it all he has every game (for better or worse).

in his previous post he had this  "Smart just said lack of effort is what is killing them"
on the previous page
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 11:40:15 PM
we really need all our guys to play with more effort and fire.  It has been missing from almost everyone but Smart / Kyrie since the start of the season.  On def especially, we need Tatum, Rozier, Brown, Horford to step up the intensity.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 24, 2018, 11:43:36 PM
The effort is not there and its causing problems on down the line and morale issues in the locker room.

Danny needs to identify the issues and ...

put on his black hat and go to work.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 24, 2018, 11:52:02 PM
Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart

What did he say?

Said lack of effort was killing them. Says it's the first time in his career where he's had no answers as to the lack of effort. When he was asked if he was upset by the Mavs' trash talking and showboating such as Doncic shimmying after a 3 he said that if they didn't feel like that was motivation to step up and play harder that was a real problem.

As for Jaylen Brown, when asked to describe the Celtics he said "disconnected, not on the same page, no presence"
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: gpap on November 24, 2018, 11:58:53 PM
Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart

What did he say?

Said lack of effort was killing them. Says it's the first time in his career where he's had no answers as to the lack of effort. When he was asked if he was upset by the Mavs' trash talking and showboating such as Doncic shimmying after a 3 he said that if they didn't feel like that was motivation to step up and play harder that was a real problem.

As for Jaylen Brown, when asked to describe the Celtics he said "disconnected, not on the same page, no presence"

That's all well and good, but all I hear is "we are doing this, we aren't doing that."

Great to hear all the candid remarks, but no one is identifying any solutions or taking any accountability
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: blink on November 24, 2018, 11:59:59 PM
Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart

What did he say?

Said lack of effort was killing them. Says it's the first time in his career where he's had no answers as to the lack of effort. When he was asked if he was upset by the Mavs' trash talking and showboating such as Doncic shimmying after a 3 he said that if they didn't feel like that was motivation to step up and play harder that was a real problem.

As for Jaylen Brown, when asked to describe the Celtics he said "disconnected, not on the same page, no presence"

tp for typing that out.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: jpotter33 on November 25, 2018, 12:08:51 AM
Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart

What did he say?

Said lack of effort was killing them. Says it's the first time in his career where he's had no answers as to the lack of effort. When he was asked if he was upset by the Mavs' trash talking and showboating such as Doncic shimmying after a 3 he said that if they didn't feel like that was motivation to step up and play harder that was a real problem.

As for Jaylen Brown, when asked to describe the Celtics he said "disconnected, not on the same page, no presence"

Yikes. Pretty much confirming what most of us are observing and posting about.

I really can't believe that the team hasn't had a big powwow about their issues yet. It's like the coaching staff just has no clue how to fix this. That's kind of frightening as a fan that it's coming to this where they have to explicitly say this to the media.

Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart

What did he say?

Said lack of effort was killing them. Says it's the first time in his career where he's had no answers as to the lack of effort. When he was asked if he was upset by the Mavs' trash talking and showboating such as Doncic shimmying after a 3 he said that if they didn't feel like that was motivation to step up and play harder that was a real problem.

As for Jaylen Brown, when asked to describe the Celtics he said "disconnected, not on the same page, no presence"

That's all well and good, but all I hear is "we are doing this, we aren't doing that."

Great to hear all the candid remarks, but no one is identifying any solutions or taking any accountability

Yep, pretty worrisome.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: kmart12 on November 25, 2018, 12:20:57 AM
Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart

What did he say?

Said lack of effort was killing them. Says it's the first time in his career where he's had no answers as to the lack of effort. When he was asked if he was upset by the Mavs' trash talking and showboating such as Doncic shimmying after a 3 he said that if they didn't feel like that was motivation to step up and play harder that was a real problem.

As for Jaylen Brown, when asked to describe the Celtics he said "disconnected, not on the same page, no presence"

That's all well and good, but all I hear is "we are doing this, we aren't doing that."

Great to hear all the candid remarks, but no one is identifying any solutions or taking any accountability

I agree with this, but I think they're not identifying any solutions because it's a deep rooted issue. A team with this much talent should be winning this league; I imagine that the answer to our problems is much greater than a lineup change or an emotionally-charged pep talk by one of the leaders.
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: hpantazo on November 25, 2018, 09:54:36 AM
So clearly Hayward was the problem  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (10-9) at Mavericks (8-9) Game #20 11/24/18
Post by: ozgod on November 25, 2018, 10:15:32 AM
Brutally honest post game interview from Marcus Smart

What did he say?

Said lack of effort was killing them. Says it's the first time in his career where he's had no answers as to the lack of effort. When he was asked if he was upset by the Mavs' trash talking and showboating such as Doncic shimmying after a 3 he said that if they didn't feel like that was motivation to step up and play harder that was a real problem.

As for Jaylen Brown, when asked to describe the Celtics he said "disconnected, not on the same page, no presence"

That's all well and good, but all I hear is "we are doing this, we aren't doing that."

Great to hear all the candid remarks, but no one is identifying any solutions or taking any accountability

I think they're trying to present a united front and saying "it's on all of us". Who knows what they are saying behind closed doors. Once someone starts pointing the finger at another in public or suggesting a solution to bench whoever isn't putting in the effort (and surely they would know that more than any of us) then they've basically fractured the team and increased the media scrutiny on them by 1000%.