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Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2021, 05:45:03 PM »

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In no particular order:

Russell
Bird
Parish
McHale
Cousy
Havlicek
Cowens
Garnett
Pierce
DJ
KC Jones
Sam Jones
Sanders
Heinsohn
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Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2021, 10:06:20 PM »

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There is no way KG is not in that list ÖÖhe would have been great in any decade.

Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2021, 05:14:36 AM »

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In no particular order:

Russell
Bird
Parish
McHale
Cousy
Havlicek
Cowens
Garnett
Pierce
DJ
KC Jones
Sam Jones
Sanders
Heinsohn
White

Right.

It pretty much comes down to KC Jones (and maybe DJ and Satch). Do you value their chip production over Ray/Rondo/Toine individual production...

I think if the definition is "great" you have to include team success in the matrix, and therefore KC and DJ are in.
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Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2021, 11:41:03 AM »

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In no particular order:

Russell
Bird
Parish
McHale
Cousy
Havlicek
Cowens
Garnett
Pierce
DJ
KC Jones
Sam Jones
Sanders
Heinsohn
White

Right.

It pretty much comes down to KC Jones (and maybe DJ and Satch). Do you value their chip production over Ray/Rondo/Toine individual production...

I think if the definition is "great" you have to include team success in the matrix, and therefore KC and DJ are in.

There is no way that Bill Sharman should be left off however.


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Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2021, 09:21:49 PM »

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Russell, KG, Bird, Hondo, Cooz, Cowens, McHale, Pierce, Sam Jones, Jojo, Chief, Heinsohn, Max, Sharman, DJ

Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2021, 10:01:02 PM »

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This is a super fun exercise and Iím not as well versed on Celtics history as others, but my 2 centsÖ

- Reggie, Antoine, and Rondo were three of my favorite players ever, but Iím not sure any belong in the top 15. Reggie didnít play long enough at a high level and didnít sniff significant playoff success (RIP), Antoine wasnít good enough and peaked at the ECF, and Rondo was the 4th best player on a title team.

- KG is one of the best players in history, but did he play enough seasons in Boston to qualify? Iím leaning yes, but itís not straightforward.

- Maxwell didnít play that long with the Celtics and was never an elite player but the sheer fact he was finals MVP in Ď81 should count for a lot.

Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2021, 01:35:08 AM »

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Garnett's 2008 season was matched by few players in Celtics history, I'd have him there considering that he churned out 4 more quality years from 2010 to 2013 after his ACL tear.
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2021, 01:35:16 AM »

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Reggie Lewis should be there. Len Bias would have been there.

KG and DJ belong on that list. Max and Ainge are about even but Max was great when he was healthy.

Edit: Sharman belongs over everyone else I can think of.

Max and Ainge even ? Not even close. Cedric Maxwell was one of the foundations of the 80's teams. He played for 8 seasons in Boston, "Wiggle." Max also carried the team in the '81 finals and he, along with Parish and McHale won game 7 vs the Lakers in 1984.

My final 4 would be Max, Garnett, Dennis Johnson and Paul Silas.

Yes, Paul Silas. As great as those 70's team were, they did not win a title until Silas got there and did not win again after he left.
I look at Paul Silas as a power forward version of Dennis Johnson and Cowens loved playing alongside him.
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Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2021, 03:17:46 PM »

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Reggie Lewis should be there. Len Bias would have been there.

KG and DJ belong on that list. Max and Ainge are about even but Max was great when he was healthy.

Edit: Sharman belongs over everyone else I can think of.

Max and Ainge even ? Not even close. Cedric Maxwell was one of the foundations of the 80's teams. He played for 8 seasons in Boston, "Wiggle." Max also carried the team in the '81 finals and he, along with Parish and McHale won game 7 vs the Lakers in 1984.

My final 4 would be Max, Garnett, Dennis Johnson and Paul Silas.

Yes, Paul Silas. As great as those 70's team were, they did not win a title until Silas got there and did not win again after he left.
I look at Paul Silas as a power forward version of Dennis Johnson and Cowens loved playing alongside him.
"Carried" is pretty strong. He had a great series and led the team in scoring in the Finals but Bird and Parish were right behind him and Bird led the team in rebounds, assists, and steals while being the focus.

Max was terrific but did he really do more for/with the Celtics than Sharman or Rondo did? I'm skeptical.
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Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2021, 12:23:28 PM »

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When are they announcing the 15?

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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2021, 12:26:30 PM »

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When are they announcing the 15?

I don't think they've announced a date yet.  Even the voting website just says "later this season".


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Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2021, 04:01:05 PM »

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Tier 1
Bird, Russell, Havlicek

Tier 2
Cousy, Cowens, McHale, Pierce

Tier 3
S. Jones, White, Parish

Tier 4
Tommy, Sanders, DJ, KG, Toine


I think that is my list.  At least the top 2 players from every title and then guys that played a longer time or had great success.  I had a real hard time with that last spot, but went with Toine because I always loved Toine.  It will probably be Lewis as a result of his untimely death (or Rondo for recency bias), but for me I went with Toine's 8 seasons over Lewis' 6.
I bet Russell would put Sam Jones in tier 1.

Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2021, 04:15:26 PM »

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Russ,  Bird, McHale, Sam Jones, Cowen, Cousy, Tommy H, KG, Pierce, Jojo, Reggie, there's not 15 Celtics better than him, Ray Allen, Jason Tatum, The Chief,  Antoine Walker!!

Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2022, 12:17:44 PM »

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Celtics legends selected by fans, media & historians for All-Celtics Team: Ray Allen, Larry Bird, Bob Cousy, Dave Cowens, Kevin Garnett, John Havlicek, Tommy Heinsohn, Dennis Johnson, Sam Jones, Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Paul Pierce, Bill Russell, Bill Sharman & Jo Jo White.

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Re: Celtics to pick 15 Greatest Players
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2022, 12:27:40 PM »

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Celtics legends selected by fans, media & historians for All-Celtics Team: Ray Allen, Larry Bird, Bob Cousy, Dave Cowens, Kevin Garnett, John Havlicek, Tommy Heinsohn, Dennis Johnson, Sam Jones, Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Paul Pierce, Bill Russell, Bill Sharman & Jo Jo White.

Ray is the controversial one.

I was 14/15.  I had Satch instead of Ray. 


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