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Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2021, 12:40:01 PM »

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A rotation of Horford/Kanter/Timelord is pretty solid. Now we need a good power forward and a good PG. Maybe the TT deal solves one of that or even both. Is Fernando a center? Because if he is then the Kanter signing might mean he’s no longer coming over?

I'm not even sure if Fernando will remain on the roster.  Looking at this on paper stats he looks like absolute garbage - Maine Red Claws fodder.  I hope I'm wrong, but his numbers look terrible.

Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2021, 12:43:43 PM »

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What’s more surprising is Brad didn’t really play Enes when he was here. So why is he now bringing this guy back? These are perplexing moves.

To defend Embiid.

I liked what Kanter brought when he played for us.  But am I misremembering?  I thought Embiid torched Kanter when they were matched up?  Honest question for all, not being sarcastic.
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Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2021, 12:45:23 PM »

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Great!!  Love having Kanter on the team!

Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2021, 12:47:04 PM »

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A rotation of Horford/Kanter/Timelord is pretty solid. Now we need a good power forward and a good PG. Maybe the TT deal solves one of that or even both. Is Fernando a center? Because if he is then the Kanter signing might mean he’s no longer coming over?
At first thought, I was in total agreement with this statement, but then I thought about it and the power forward is a must, but the point guard may not be the most pressing position.  I think a knockdown shooter may be more important than a point guard.  I think if we can surround Smart, Dunn and PP with enough shooting and offense, we will be fine.  We also have Horford in the middle, who is much better at facilitating the offense than anyone that was on the team last year.

Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2021, 12:47:15 PM »

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I really like the signing. TL gets hurt or Horford just needs the night off, gives us a very good 3rd string center. He was 11/11 in Portland and didn't miss a single game.

I'd feel a lot better about the roster if they could sign a veteran wing who could shoot, but I'm guessing they want to give Nesmith and Romeo every opportunity to take the job.

Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2021, 12:48:42 PM »

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What’s more surprising is Brad didn’t really play Enes when he was here. So why is he now bringing this guy back? These are perplexing moves.

To defend Embiid.

I liked what Kanter brought when he played for us.  But am I misremembering?  I thought Embiid torched Kanter when they were matched up?  Honest question for all, not being sarcastic.

Kinda.  Embiid torches everybody, and Kanter was no exception.  But Kanter gave it back to him better than our other guys did. 

Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2021, 12:50:47 PM »

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A rotation of Horford/Kanter/Timelord is pretty solid. Now we need a good power forward and a good PG. Maybe the TT deal solves one of that or even both. Is Fernando a center? Because if he is then the Kanter signing might mean he’s no longer coming over?
At first thought, I was in total agreement with this statement, but then I thought about it and the power forward is a must, but the point guard may not be the most pressing position.  I think a knockdown shooter may be more important than a point guard.  I think if we can surround Smart, Dunn and PP with enough shooting and offense, we will be fine.  We also have Horford in the middle, who is much better at facilitating the offense than anyone that was on the team last year.
I do not think they plan on keeping Dunn.

Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2021, 12:57:17 PM »

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https://twitter.com/dangercart/status/1422950359820083204?s=19

This organization may just be...bad?

We dumped Barnes to clear money for Kemba, not Kanter. Then we dumped Kanter to get the full MLE, which we wasted on TT (that part sucks). We're getting a pick and players for TT, though, so that's hardly a dump, and then signing Kanter for way less than any of the other contracts listed there.

It's not a great look, but it's not as bad as Dangercart is trying to make it seem

Your comments were spinning in my head -- thanks for the providing the clarity.  Shows how "spin" can make something look much worse than it is.

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« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2021, 01:00:26 PM »

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Hooray, we have a logjam at center again.
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Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2021, 01:00:59 PM »

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I like the move, Brad is placing an emphasis on versatility and matching up well against any opponent. Bringing Kanter to match him against Embiid and other large Centers, give us an offensive rebounding and low post scorer to deploy when necessary, and in case of injury (as he's been durable throughout his career) is great to have as a 3rd string Center.

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« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2021, 01:01:57 PM »

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You didn’t play him when you had him before.

Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #56 on: August 04, 2021, 01:07:29 PM »

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We chose to roll with Thompson over Kanter last season, and that decision is even more difficult to defend now than it was then. 

Thompson is a good rebounder, has stone hands, and is a mediocre finisher considering the quality of looks he gets as a garbage man - a lot of his shots are right at the rim.  He's more switchable as a defender than Kanter is, but he's still well below average on that end. 

Kanter is an even better rebounder, has good hands, and is a better finisher than Thompson.  Significantly better free throw shooter.  He's a substantial negative on defense (you're basically locked into drop coverage of screens with Kanter on the court, and that just isn't viable against some personnel), but again, so was Thompson. 

In a vacuum, I think I'd take Kanter over Thompson.  Given that Kanter made $5M last season while Thompson made $9M, that choice is even clearer.  I acknowledge that we were in an awkward situation early in free agency last year as we waited for the Hayward situation to resolve.  But it's a decision that I bet Ainge would like to have back, and apparently, Stevens as well. 

Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #57 on: August 04, 2021, 01:08:10 PM »

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Hooray, we have a logjam at center again.

Depends.

Rob Williams is injury prone and foul prone, so nobody knows how much time we'll get from him.

Horford is another year older (36) and hasn't played for half a season, so no idea what to expect from him.  Horford could also spend time at the PF spot (which we're pretty thin at right now) so I think the playing time is there for all 3 guys if they prove worthy.

I appreciate the insurance for sure.

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« Reply #58 on: August 04, 2021, 01:08:19 PM »

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A rotation of Horford/Kanter/Timelord is pretty solid. Now we need a good power forward and a good PG. Maybe the TT deal solves one of that or even both. Is Fernando a center? Because if he is then the Kanter signing might mean he’s no longer coming over?
At first thought, I was in total agreement with this statement, but then I thought about it and the power forward is a must, but the point guard may not be the most pressing position.  I think a knockdown shooter may be more important than a point guard.  I think if we can surround Smart, Dunn and PP with enough shooting and offense, we will be fine.  We also have Horford in the middle, who is much better at facilitating the offense than anyone that was on the team last year.
I do not think they plan on keeping Dunn.
That's what has been said, but what are they flipping Dunn for?  Right now, he is the best "pure" PG they have.

Re: Kanter Returns
« Reply #59 on: August 04, 2021, 01:09:36 PM »

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https://twitter.com/dangercart/status/1422950359820083204?s=19

This organization may just be...bad?

We dumped Barnes to clear money for Kemba, not Kanter. Then we dumped Kanter to get the full MLE, which we wasted on TT (that part sucks). We're getting a pick and players for TT, though, so that's hardly a dump, and then signing Kanter for way less than any of the other contracts listed there.

It's not a great look, but it's not as bad as Dangercart is trying to make it seem

Your comments were spinning in my head -- thanks for the providing the clarity.  Shows how "spin" can make something look much worse than it is.

Yeah the logic on display in that tweet is a little lacking.
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