Smart and Dunn for Ball or Romeo and Dunn for Nance?

[nebist]

From Weiss’s latest article on the Athletic:

“There have been rumblings Dunn could get flipped again, though Dallas does not want to take him in the Richardson deal, per sources familiar with the discussions. The two most viable possibilities would be to package Dunn with one of the team’s recent 14th picks to acquire Cleveland forward Larry Nance after a solid year-plus of dancing around that deal, or tagging him onto a Marcus Smart for Lonzo Ball sign-and-trade amid chatter that the Celtics could pursue the Pelicans guard. There are a variety of possibilities and Boston is trying to expand the number of avenues it can go down in the next two weeks.”

Which would you rather?
Smart and Dunn for Lonzo:
Lonzo / Richardson / Brown / Tatum / Horford
Pritchard / Nesmith / Romeo / Grant / Rob

OR
Dunn and Romeo for Nance:
Smart / Richardson / Brown / Tatum / Horford
Pritchard / Nesmith / Nance / Rob

[SparzWizard]

Ball/Richardson/Brown/Tatum/Horford sounds like a dope lineup.

[Muzzy66]

From Weiss’s latest article on the Athletic:

“There have been rumblings Dunn could get flipped again, though Dallas does not want to take him in the Richardson deal, per sources familiar with the discussions. The two most viable possibilities would be to package Dunn with one of the team’s recent 14th picks to acquire Cleveland forward Larry Nance after a solid year-plus of dancing around that deal, or tagging him onto a Marcus Smart for Lonzo Ball sign-and-trade amid chatter that the Celtics could pursue the Pelicans guard. There are a variety of possibilities and Boston is trying to expand the number of avenues it can go down in the next two weeks.”

Which would you rather?
Smart and Dunn for Lonzo:
Lonzo / Richardson / Brown / Tatum / Horford
Pritchard / Nesmith / Romeo / Grant / Rob

OR
Dunn and Romeo for Nance:
Smart / Richardson / Brown / Tatum / Horford
Pritchard / Nesmith / Nance / Rob

Honestly, neitehr.  I don't think either lineup has enough scoring help for Brown and Tatum. 

Lsat year when Kemba was out Brown and Tatum really struggled to carry the team offensively.  They clearly needed more offensive help.  I don't think that either Smart/Richardson or Ball / Richardson is enough offensive help for Brown and Tatum given that we really don't know at this point what we will get from Horford after being another year older and not playing for months.  I think they need a #3 scorer on that roster - a Fournier type who is good enough to step up into the #2 scoring role if one of the J's is not playing or is having an off game.  I really think they need to do everything they can to try and bring Fournier back


On the upside though...I do think Ball / Richardson / Brown / Tatum / Horford would likely be an outstanding defensive team.  If they can be a top 5 defensive team the maybe that scoring is enough. 

I personally think there is more to this though.  Given Richardson's game, I feel bringing him in could very easily be compensation for Brad knowing that he's losing either Smart or JB. 

Lets just say for one wild moment that Brad is talkingto the Blazers about a trade that would send Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart to the Blazers for Damian Lillard.  In this case Lilard becomes your starting PG and Richardson replaces Brown at the SF spot.  I don't see them making a deal like this unless they have VERY strong confidence tha they can contend for a title RIGHT NOW, so stands to reason that if they were to do this they would then also pay whatever they need to in order to re-sign Fourner and bring him back.   

PG Lillard
SG: Fournier
SF: Richardson
PF: Tatum
C: Horford

Or maybe they intend to send Smart, Dunn, Nesmith and Langford (and maybe a pick or two) to the Sixers for CJ McCollum, in which case Richardson replaces Smart at the SG spot:

PG C. McCollum, P. Pritchard, C. Edwards / T. Waters
SG: J. Richardson, E. Fournier / FA (signed with $9.2M exception from TT deal)
SF: J. Brown, S. Ojeleye
PF: J. Tatum, R. Wiliams, J. Parker
C: A. Horford, M. Brown, G. Williams, B. Fernando

Richardson would pretty much be the perfect guy to put alongside McCollum in that roster to add a little extra size and defense.  It would also explain the Dunn trade, as there are no other 'disposable' players on the roster who make over >$4M, so Dunn's salary would be needed to make the deal work.

[Celtics4ever]

Dunn and Romeo for Nance:

CLE hangs up laughing on that one.

[PAOBoston]

I think both lineups would be pretty good defensively but offense could be a serious problem. Also, the bench is hot garbage. Whatever they do, that literally cannot be the bench.

[Celtics2021]

These proposals are odd, as they both involved Dunn’s salary being aggregates with another player’s, which can’t happen for some time (typically 60 days although perhaps they’ve reduced that a little bit).

[DefenseWinsChamps]

These proposals are odd, as they both involved Dunn’s salary being aggregates with another player’s, which can’t happen for some time (typically 60 days although perhaps they’ve reduced that a little bit).

Isn't it pretty normal this time of year for a two-team deal to be agreed on, but not sent to the league, and then a week later a third team is brought into the trade?

[pearljammer10]

Dunn and Romeo for Nance:

CLE hangs up laughing on that one.

I actually think that’s a bit of an overpay. Nance isnt that good of a player he’s a good fit.

Cleveland hangs up for the fact that they have too many PGs. Not for the offer itself.

[pearljammer10]

We aren’t getting Lillard. Let’s put that to rest.

I’m fully on board with Smart and picks for a Lonzo sign and trade. Sign a tax payer MLE guy (something like a Patty Mills veteran presence) and a couple Markieff Morris esque vet Min bench guys (3 and D guys).

Lonzo/Mills/Pritchard

Brown/Dunn/Langford

Richardson/(3 and D FA)/Neismith

Tatum/Parker/GWill

Williams/Horford/Brown

That team is fun, realistic, and has room to grow together.

[Celtics2021]

These proposals are odd, as they both involved Dunn’s salary being aggregates with another player’s, which can’t happen for some time (typically 60 days although perhaps they’ve reduced that a little bit).

Isn't it pretty normal this time of year for a two-team deal to be agreed on, but not sent to the league, and then a week later a third team is brought into the trade?

Not in this case, because they are acquiring/have acquired Dunn with the Kanter TPE, which has to be used by today.  So if they couldn’t find that third team, the deal would fall apart.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

These proposals are odd, as they both involved Dunn’s salary being aggregates with another player’s, which can’t happen for some time (typically 60 days although perhaps they’ve reduced that a little bit).

Isn't it pretty normal this time of year for a two-team deal to be agreed on, but not sent to the league, and then a week later a third team is brought into the trade?

Not in this case, because they are acquiring/have acquired Dunn with the Kanter TPE, which has to be used by today.  So if they couldn’t find that third team, the deal would fall apart.

Great point.