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Re: Celtics (1-3) at Nets (3-1) Round 1 Game 5 6/1/21
« Reply #690 on: June 01, 2021, 11:15:23 PM »

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Lakers are getting massacred. Down by 20+... Definitely taking some of the sting out of the C’s season being over. That and the booze.

Yes and James with the worst +- with -25...

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The 2021 Celtics are basically the 2020 Sixers. Hopefully we make the necessary changes that they did

Re: Celtics (1-3) at Nets (3-1) Round 1 Game 5 6/1/21
« Reply #692 on: June 01, 2021, 11:18:10 PM »

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Ok, so the hugfest happened. Kyrie going to the Celtics bench to hug everyone after stomping on the leprechaun? Is he trying to do some damage control there?

I think it’s called having good sportsmanship  :angel:

I agree. But what he did in game 3 certainly wasn’t. Anyway, Kyrie and Timelord had a pretty long and tight hug/discussion there. Didn’t know they were that close.

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« Reply #693 on: June 01, 2021, 11:20:41 PM »

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The 2021 Celtics are basically the 2020 Sixers. Hopefully we make the necessary changes that they did

Exactly. We may think we have 0 marge to change things, but it was also the cae for them; Horford seemed even more untradable than Walker by exemple... It is time for Danny to make the good decision after some years of very contrasted ones.

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The 2021 Celtics are basically the 2020 Sixers. Hopefully we make the necessary changes that they did

Exactly. We may think we have 0 marge to change things, but it was also the cae for them; Horford seemed even more untradable than Walker by exemple... It is time for Danny to make the good decision after some years of very contrasted ones.

An hour after a season ending loss usually isn’t the best time to get reasonable takes from people  :angel:
Any odd typos are because I suck at typing on an iPhone :D

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It's weird. Despite being eliminated I now just feel a sense of peace lol  :laugh:
some peace.  some anxiousness wondering what can reasonably be done to make this team better.

figure everyone but Tatum and Brown are on the table for the right deals
If it were possible, I'd just release most of them. The majority don't belong on NBA rosters.
tatum
brown
kemba
smart
TL
TT
fournier
langfor
nesmith

that's 9, which is a majority.
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Lakers are getting massacred. Down by 20+... Definitely taking some of the sting out of the C’s season being over. That and the booze.

Yes and James with the worst +- with -25...
this is the best news of the day.  ;D

and the suns outscored the lakers 32-10 in the third quarter. good. i want the lakers to be completely humiliated.
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Re: Celtics (1-3) at Nets (3-1) Round 1 Game 5 6/1/21
« Reply #697 on: June 01, 2021, 11:37:57 PM »

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The 2021 Celtics are basically the 2020 Sixers. Hopefully we make the necessary changes that they did

Exactly. We may think we have 0 marge to change things, but it was also the cae for them; Horford seemed even more untradable than Walker by exemple... It is time for Danny to make the good decision after some years of very contrasted ones.

An hour after a season ending loss usually isn’t the best time to get reasonable takes from people  :angel:

True.

Re: Celtics (1-3) at Nets (3-1) Round 1 Game 5 6/1/21
« Reply #698 on: June 01, 2021, 11:40:54 PM »

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The 2021 Celtics are basically the 2020 Sixers. Hopefully we make the necessary changes that they did

Exactly. We may think we have 0 marge to change things, but it was also the cae for them; Horford seemed even more untradable than Walker by exemple... It is time for Danny to make the good decision after some years of very contrasted ones.

An hour after a season ending loss usually isn’t the best time to get reasonable takes from people  :angel:
Best time for fun crazy threads though. Trade everyone! Fire everyone too!

Re: Celtics (1-3) at Nets (3-1) Round 1 Game 5 6/1/21
« Reply #699 on: June 01, 2021, 11:41:39 PM »

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The 2021 Celtics are basically the 2020 Sixers. Hopefully we make the necessary changes that they did

Exactly. We may think we have 0 marge to change things, but it was also the cae for them; Horford seemed even more untradable than Walker by exemple... It is time for Danny to make the good decision after some years of very contrasted ones.

An hour after a season ending loss usually isn’t the best time to get reasonable takes from people  :angel:
Best time for fun crazy threads though. Trade everyone! Fire everyone too!
then make wild crazy trade proposals....tatum for 14 first round picks!!!
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« Reply #700 on: June 02, 2021, 12:01:40 AM »

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The 2021 Celtics are basically the 2020 Sixers. Hopefully we make the necessary changes that they did

Exactly. We may think we have 0 marge to change things, but it was also the cae for them; Horford seemed even more untradable than Walker by exemple... It is time for Danny to make the good decision after some years of very contrasted ones.

An hour after a season ending loss usually isn’t the best time to get reasonable takes from people  :angel:
Best time for fun crazy threads though. Trade everyone! Fire everyone too!

Well Shank got his column out even before the Celtics had lost  ;D

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Mercifully it’s over, but Celtics need big changes after a season of failure and disappointment
By Dan Shaughnessy Globe Columnist,Updated June 1, 2021, 2 hours ago

It’s over. The bull gang can put the parquet panels in storage for the summer. Let’s thank the hoop god for that.

Now it’s time for a change. Fire basketball boss Danny Ainge. Fire coach Brad Stevens. Fire the roster. Something has to give. The Boston Celtics simply cannot stand pat after the season we just witnessed.

Kyrie Irving (25 points) and the Brooklyn Nets put the Celtics out of their misery Tuesday in Brooklyn, beating the soft C’s, 123-109, in Game 5 at the quiet Barclays Center to advance to the second round of the NBA playoffs.

A Celtics team that went to the conference finals three times in the previous four years finished with 40 losses in 77 (regular-season and postseason) games, whimpering to the finish like a group that could not wait to get this thing over with. That’s certainly how objective fans would view the 2020-21 Boston basketball season.

There were injuries and there was COVID, but for the most part there was abject indifference and underachievement in this sorry season. You have to go back to the 2011 Chicken and Beer Red Sox to find a Boston team less admired than this crew. In their final days the Celtics became the polar opposite of a Bruins playoff team that has demonstrated toughness and resilience.

We were hoping to see a little of that old-timey Celtic Pride Tuesday in Brooklyn; some indication that the Celtics players care about this franchise as much as Celtics fans. We were hoping to see a little less love and support for the loathsome Irving, who stomped on the Celtics logo (designed by Red Auerbach’s brother, Zang) after scoring 39 points in Boston Sunday.

In the two days leading up to Game 5, there was plenty of noise from the likes of Kevin Garnett, Cedric Maxwell, and Glen Davis — men who won championships for the Celtics. But there was little indication that Stevens, Ainge, Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart, and the rest of the friendly Celtics were the least bit bothered. Nobody was expecting a Kevin McHale-esque clothesline takedown of Irving, or anything like Robert Parish unloading on Bill Laimbeer, but any little pushback from the Green Team would have sufficed.

There was none of that. When it ended, almost all of the Celtics had hugs for Kyrie. Robert Williams and Kyrie hugged it out so long, I thought they would have to be separated with a crowbar. Bird and Laimbeer, this was not.

In his head-scratching postgame press conference, Irving alluded to his two years with the Celtics, saying, “There was a lot going on personally while I was there in Boston,” but added, “there’s nothing but respect for the players and coaching staff over there . . . “

Meanwhile, back on (round) planet earth, Stevens assessed his team, admitting, “We’re gonna have to get better. We never got a true look at this team this year, but the information showed that we need to get better . . . We have some really good foundational people in our building. We can get better and we will . . . We didn’t play perfect basketball, but we showed a lot of growth in the last couple of weeks.”

When Smart was asked if there was need for organizational changes, he said, “I don’t think it’s nothing to stress about. I think we’re all right.”

Exactly the problem. These guys think they are better than they are. They think they have accomplished something when they have not.

The Celtics came out chucking threes (16 attempts in the first quarter) and trailed, 33-24, early in the second. Playing again without Kemba Walker (bruised knee) and Time Lord (ankle, toe), there were a lot of minutes for Romeo Langford, Grant Williams, Payton Pritchard, and Jabari Parker. Action was flat at both ends. A lot of standing around and watching.

The Nets scored on a parade of hard drives to the basket and no Celtic would take a charge (”No resistance whatsoever,’’ Kendrick Perkins told the NBC Sports Boston audience). The game didn’t get out of hand until late, but it never felt like the Celtics were a serious threat.

Irving made 6 of 9 floor shots and had 15 points in the first half, while James Harden scored 18 points with 9 rebounds and 7 assists. The Nets led, 59-51, at intermission and the Hall of Fame in Springfield did not request a video. Smart and Tatum combined to go 2 for 14 from beyond the arc in the first half. Tatum scored 11 on 13 shots. There was no urgency. It felt like a preseason game. It was hard to watch.

The Celtics “hung around” while the Nets tried to stay awake. Brooklyn led, 86-79, after three. A 3-pointer by Irving gave Brooklyn a 103-89 lead with 7:18 left and forced a Stevens timeout. Brooklyn led by 22 with 3:10 left.

Remember when Ainge fleeced the Nets in that Paul Pierce-Garnett trade eight years ago? It was supposed to make the Celtics great for the next decade and put the Nets in NBA purgatory indefinitely.

Who’s laughing now? The star-laden Nets look like a contender to make it to the NBA Finals, while the Celtics are reeling from one of the most disappointing seasons in the history of the Boston franchise.

Walker’s inability to play in the final two games was the final nail in this underwhelming season. It looks like Boston’s former All-Star guard is cooked. He averaged more than 80 games per season in the four years before he was acquired by Ainge. The Celtics babied him throughout the 2020-21 season, not playing him on the second night of back-to-backs. Still, after all that careful “management,” Walker was unavailable for the last two games because of a bone bruise on his knee. This had to be disappointing for a player who never won a playoff series in his eight seasons in Charlotte.

“I came to Boston to be part of high intensity games and fans going wild,” said Walker. “Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to be a part of this.”

His contract is an albatross. Signing Walker made folks feel good after Irving bolted two years ago, but now the Celtics are on the hook for two more years and more than $70 million.

Who knows what the future holds? Ainge says he’ll be back and Stevens will be back. Also Tatum and Jaylen Brown.

Not good enough. The Celtics are in need of big changes before the start of the 2021-22 season.

Dan Shaughnessy is a Globe columnist. He can be reached at daniel.shaughnessy@globe.com. Follow him on Twitter @dan_shaughnessy.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/06/01/sports/hoping-celtic-pride-before-fall/
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Re: Celtics (1-3) at Nets (3-1) Round 1 Game 5 6/1/21
« Reply #701 on: June 02, 2021, 12:11:29 AM »

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The 2021 Celtics are basically the 2020 Sixers. Hopefully we make the necessary changes that they did

Exactly. We may think we have 0 marge to change things, but it was also the cae for them; Horford seemed even more untradable than Walker by exemple... It is time for Danny to make the good decision after some years of very contrasted ones.

An hour after a season ending loss usually isn’t the best time to get reasonable takes from people  :angel:
Best time for fun crazy threads though. Trade everyone! Fire everyone too!

Well Shank got his column out even before the Celtics had lost  ;D

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Mercifully it’s over, but Celtics need big changes after a season of failure and disappointment
By Dan Shaughnessy Globe Columnist,Updated June 1, 2021, 2 hours ago

It’s over. The bull gang can put the parquet panels in storage for the summer. Let’s thank the hoop god for that.

Now it’s time for a change. Fire basketball boss Danny Ainge. Fire coach Brad Stevens. Fire the roster. Something has to give. The Boston Celtics simply cannot stand pat after the season we just witnessed.

Kyrie Irving (25 points) and the Brooklyn Nets put the Celtics out of their misery Tuesday in Brooklyn, beating the soft C’s, 123-109, in Game 5 at the quiet Barclays Center to advance to the second round of the NBA playoffs.

A Celtics team that went to the conference finals three times in the previous four years finished with 40 losses in 77 (regular-season and postseason) games, whimpering to the finish like a group that could not wait to get this thing over with. That’s certainly how objective fans would view the 2020-21 Boston basketball season.

There were injuries and there was COVID, but for the most part there was abject indifference and underachievement in this sorry season. You have to go back to the 2011 Chicken and Beer Red Sox to find a Boston team less admired than this crew. In their final days the Celtics became the polar opposite of a Bruins playoff team that has demonstrated toughness and resilience.

We were hoping to see a little of that old-timey Celtic Pride Tuesday in Brooklyn; some indication that the Celtics players care about this franchise as much as Celtics fans. We were hoping to see a little less love and support for the loathsome Irving, who stomped on the Celtics logo (designed by Red Auerbach’s brother, Zang) after scoring 39 points in Boston Sunday.

In the two days leading up to Game 5, there was plenty of noise from the likes of Kevin Garnett, Cedric Maxwell, and Glen Davis — men who won championships for the Celtics. But there was little indication that Stevens, Ainge, Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart, and the rest of the friendly Celtics were the least bit bothered. Nobody was expecting a Kevin McHale-esque clothesline takedown of Irving, or anything like Robert Parish unloading on Bill Laimbeer, but any little pushback from the Green Team would have sufficed.

There was none of that. When it ended, almost all of the Celtics had hugs for Kyrie. Robert Williams and Kyrie hugged it out so long, I thought they would have to be separated with a crowbar. Bird and Laimbeer, this was not.

In his head-scratching postgame press conference, Irving alluded to his two years with the Celtics, saying, “There was a lot going on personally while I was there in Boston,” but added, “there’s nothing but respect for the players and coaching staff over there . . . “

Meanwhile, back on (round) planet earth, Stevens assessed his team, admitting, “We’re gonna have to get better. We never got a true look at this team this year, but the information showed that we need to get better . . . We have some really good foundational people in our building. We can get better and we will . . . We didn’t play perfect basketball, but we showed a lot of growth in the last couple of weeks.”

When Smart was asked if there was need for organizational changes, he said, “I don’t think it’s nothing to stress about. I think we’re all right.”

Exactly the problem. These guys think they are better than they are. They think they have accomplished something when they have not.

The Celtics came out chucking threes (16 attempts in the first quarter) and trailed, 33-24, early in the second. Playing again without Kemba Walker (bruised knee) and Time Lord (ankle, toe), there were a lot of minutes for Romeo Langford, Grant Williams, Payton Pritchard, and Jabari Parker. Action was flat at both ends. A lot of standing around and watching.

The Nets scored on a parade of hard drives to the basket and no Celtic would take a charge (”No resistance whatsoever,’’ Kendrick Perkins told the NBC Sports Boston audience). The game didn’t get out of hand until late, but it never felt like the Celtics were a serious threat.

Irving made 6 of 9 floor shots and had 15 points in the first half, while James Harden scored 18 points with 9 rebounds and 7 assists. The Nets led, 59-51, at intermission and the Hall of Fame in Springfield did not request a video. Smart and Tatum combined to go 2 for 14 from beyond the arc in the first half. Tatum scored 11 on 13 shots. There was no urgency. It felt like a preseason game. It was hard to watch.

The Celtics “hung around” while the Nets tried to stay awake. Brooklyn led, 86-79, after three. A 3-pointer by Irving gave Brooklyn a 103-89 lead with 7:18 left and forced a Stevens timeout. Brooklyn led by 22 with 3:10 left.

Remember when Ainge fleeced the Nets in that Paul Pierce-Garnett trade eight years ago? It was supposed to make the Celtics great for the next decade and put the Nets in NBA purgatory indefinitely.

Who’s laughing now? The star-laden Nets look like a contender to make it to the NBA Finals, while the Celtics are reeling from one of the most disappointing seasons in the history of the Boston franchise.

Walker’s inability to play in the final two games was the final nail in this underwhelming season. It looks like Boston’s former All-Star guard is cooked. He averaged more than 80 games per season in the four years before he was acquired by Ainge. The Celtics babied him throughout the 2020-21 season, not playing him on the second night of back-to-backs. Still, after all that careful “management,” Walker was unavailable for the last two games because of a bone bruise on his knee. This had to be disappointing for a player who never won a playoff series in his eight seasons in Charlotte.

“I came to Boston to be part of high intensity games and fans going wild,” said Walker. “Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to be a part of this.”

His contract is an albatross. Signing Walker made folks feel good after Irving bolted two years ago, but now the Celtics are on the hook for two more years and more than $70 million.

Who knows what the future holds? Ainge says he’ll be back and Stevens will be back. Also Tatum and Jaylen Brown.

Not good enough. The Celtics are in need of big changes before the start of the 2021-22 season.

Dan Shaughnessy is a Globe columnist. He can be reached at daniel.shaughnessy@globe.com. Follow him on Twitter @dan_shaughnessy.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/06/01/sports/hoping-celtic-pride-before-fall/
Any way we can get Shank fired?

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« Reply #702 on: June 02, 2021, 12:33:19 AM »

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Ok, so the hugfest happened. Kyrie going to the Celtics bench to hug everyone after stomping on the leprechaun? Is he trying to do some damage control there?

I think it’s called having good sportsmanship  :angel:

I agree. But what he did in game 3 certainly wasn’t. Anyway, Kyrie and Timelord had a pretty long and tight hug/discussion there. Didn’t know they were that close.

Kyrie probably miseducating him about all the racism in Boston.

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« Reply #703 on: June 02, 2021, 09:11:12 AM »

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I thought we out up a decent fight considering we were missing Brown, Kemba and Williams.   Our remaining talent was not enough to beat the Nets  who are comparable to the 2008 Celtics on the offensive side.

But I expected this outcome and never thought we had a chance in this series.   I thought we might have a better chance against Philly.

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I thought we out up a decent fight considering we were missing Brown, Kemba and Williams.   Our remaining talent was not enough to beat the Nets  who are comparable to the 2008 Celtics on the offensive side.

But I expected this outcome and never thought we had a chance in this series.   I thought we might have a better chance against Philly.
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It kinda amused me to see this;

Irving, KD, Beard, Griffin, Harris

vs

Langford, Pritchard, Fournier, Thomas, Grant.

Not sure if that was the exact lineup out there today, but it felt like that was the case for a while, whilst Tatum was out.

And on paper, well, that's not a 14 point game, if you feel me.