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40 (21.2%)
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Author Topic: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade  (Read 59760 times)

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #285 on: November 24, 2018, 08:11:04 AM »

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Still think we need to see what Irving does in free agency.  If he leaves it changes the trade a great deal

Nah we won it. We are good. IT blew up the cavaliers and made Lebron go west. We won
Seemed like Lebron was going west no matter what though.  The Cavs still made the Finals after all.  If Irving leaves this summer then I'd say Boston lost the trade because all of those assets could have been turned into other things, especially the Brooklyn pick, which could have been useful to the C's title aspirations going forward. 
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #286 on: November 24, 2018, 11:15:47 AM »

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IT can't get on the floor because of injury, Zizic can't get on the floor with one of the worst teams in the NBA because he's not good, Crowder isn't a starter in the NBA.

Even if Kyrie were to leave this summer (in spite of every indication he's staying) I think 2 years of all star PG play for the 10th overall pick, a backup forward and nothing else of value is still a good deal.
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #287 on: November 24, 2018, 11:29:48 AM »

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IT can't get on the floor because of injury, Zizic can't get on the floor with one of the worst teams in the NBA because he's not good, Crowder isn't a starter in the NBA.

Even if Kyrie were to leave this summer (in spite of every indication he's staying) I think 2 years of all star PG play for the 10th overall pick, a backup forward and nothing else of value is still a good deal.

It's a spectacular deal.

I kinda' like Collin Sexton, but I'd say there is a way better chance he becomes Jordan Clarkson than he becomes Eric Bledsoe.

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #288 on: November 24, 2018, 01:17:37 PM »

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IT can't get on the floor because of injury, Zizic can't get on the floor with one of the worst teams in the NBA because he's not good, Crowder isn't a starter in the NBA.

Even if Kyrie were to leave this summer (in spite of every indication he's staying) I think 2 years of all star PG play for the 10th overall pick, a backup forward and nothing else of value is still a good deal.

It's a spectacular deal.

I kinda' like Collin Sexton, but I'd say there is a way better chance he becomes Jordan Clarkson than he becomes Eric Bledsoe.
And he certainly will never be Kyrie Irving.

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« Reply #289 on: November 24, 2018, 01:29:25 PM »

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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #290 on: November 24, 2018, 02:14:27 PM »

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IT can't get on the floor because of injury, Zizic can't get on the floor with one of the worst teams in the NBA because he's not good, Crowder isn't a starter in the NBA.

Even if Kyrie were to leave this summer (in spite of every indication he's staying) I think 2 years of all star PG play for the 10th overall pick, a backup forward and nothing else of value is still a good deal.

It's a spectacular deal.

I kinda' like Collin Sexton, but I'd say there is a way better chance he becomes Jordan Clarkson than he becomes Eric Bledsoe.
And he certainly will never be Kyrie Irving.
sure but at least 8 years of him is probably worth more than 2 years (and at most 1 playoff run) of Irving.  Of course who knows if Boston would have even kept that pick and not tried to move it had it kept it.  That is why it absolutely matters if Irving re-signs.  It was the same argument with the Cavs and Love. Had Love not re-signed in Cleveland that would have been a terrible trade, but the minute Love reupped the trade solidified as a clear win for them.
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #291 on: November 24, 2018, 02:21:49 PM »

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The thread should be turned around

Kyrie should be giving Celtics team a letter grade ...

i suspect it would be very low right now.

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #292 on: November 24, 2018, 10:28:26 PM »

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Sexton has looked pretty darn good the last 6 games for the Cavs including a dominant performance in the Cavs upset of the Rockets today.  This is why Irving re-signing is key to the trade for the Celtics.  You can't trade an injury riddled 2 seasons (and at best 1 post season) for the likely at least 8 years of a top rookie,  not to mention the other players given up.  Irving has to re-sign or it is a bad trade for the C's
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #293 on: November 24, 2018, 10:35:38 PM »

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Sexton has looked pretty darn good the last 6 games for the Cavs including a dominant performance in the Cavs upset of the Rockets today.  This is why Irving re-signing is key to the trade for the Celtics.  You can't trade an injury riddled 2 seasons (and at best 1 post season) for the likely at least 8 years of a top rookie,  not to mention the other players given up.  Irving has to re-sign or it is a bad trade for the C's
You keep trying to create doubt that somehow Kyrie isn't going to sign when the coaching staff and front office love Kyrie and Irving has said he will be in Boston long term. The trade is a steal, Kyrie will be here long term.

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #294 on: November 24, 2018, 11:07:03 PM »

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Sexton has looked pretty darn good the last 6 games for the Cavs including a dominant performance in the Cavs upset of the Rockets today.  This is why Irving re-signing is key to the trade for the Celtics.  You can't trade an injury riddled 2 seasons (and at best 1 post season) for the likely at least 8 years of a top rookie,  not to mention the other players given up.  Irving has to re-sign or it is a bad trade for the C's

Even if he does resign, at his cost, is he not better as a trade asset? He's so marketable and talented, but equally frail and overrated, with a clearly limited impact on winning. 
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #295 on: November 24, 2018, 11:19:28 PM »

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Sexton has looked pretty darn good the last 6 games for the Cavs including a dominant performance in the Cavs upset of the Rockets today.  This is why Irving re-signing is key to the trade for the Celtics.  You can't trade an injury riddled 2 seasons (and at best 1 post season) for the likely at least 8 years of a top rookie,  not to mention the other players given up.  Irving has to re-sign or it is a bad trade for the C's

Even if he does resign, at his cost, is he not better as a trade asset? He's so marketable and talented, but equally frail and overrated, with a clearly limited impact on winning.

Is that why he a championship in Cleveland?

Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #296 on: November 25, 2018, 12:51:57 AM »

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Sexton has looked pretty darn good the last 6 games for the Cavs including a dominant performance in the Cavs upset of the Rockets today.  This is why Irving re-signing is key to the trade for the Celtics.  You can't trade an injury riddled 2 seasons (and at best 1 post season) for the likely at least 8 years of a top rookie,  not to mention the other players given up.  Irving has to re-sign or it is a bad trade for the C's

Even if he does resign, at his cost, is he not better as a trade asset? He's so marketable and talented, but equally frail and overrated, with a clearly limited impact on winning.

Is that why he a championship in Cleveland?

LeBron won him a championship in Cleveland, without any let down after trading him.  Last year's CLE roster was probably the worst team to reach the Finals in recent memory. 
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #297 on: November 25, 2018, 01:08:27 AM »

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Sexton has looked pretty darn good the last 6 games for the Cavs including a dominant performance in the Cavs upset of the Rockets today.  This is why Irving re-signing is key to the trade for the Celtics.  You can't trade an injury riddled 2 seasons (and at best 1 post season) for the likely at least 8 years of a top rookie,  not to mention the other players given up.  Irving has to re-sign or it is a bad trade for the C's

Even if he does resign, at his cost, is he not better as a trade asset? He's so marketable and talented, but equally frail and overrated, with a clearly limited impact on winning.

Is that why he a championship in Cleveland?

LeBron won him a championship in Cleveland, without any let down after trading him.  Last year's CLE roster was probably the worst team to reach the Finals in recent memory.

The mental gymnastics that you go through to justify your Kyrie hate is astounding.

And saying “without any let down” is nonsense. Last year was by far the most difficult time that Cavs team had getting to the Finals, barely getting there by squeaking out two game 7 wins. And it’s funny that you point that out, because Kyrie being injured for the C’s is probably the only reason the Cavs even got to to game 7 with us.

And Kyrie put up 25.2 points, 4.7 assists, 3.0 rebounds, and 1.7 steals on 48% fg% and 44% 3pfg%, along with sealing the championship with the dagger three. Lebron doesn’t win a championship in Cleveland without Kyrie, and to suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

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« Reply #298 on: November 25, 2018, 01:16:08 AM »

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Sexton has looked pretty darn good the last 6 games for the Cavs including a dominant performance in the Cavs upset of the Rockets today.  This is why Irving re-signing is key to the trade for the Celtics.  You can't trade an injury riddled 2 seasons (and at best 1 post season) for the likely at least 8 years of a top rookie,  not to mention the other players given up.  Irving has to re-sign or it is a bad trade for the C's

Even if he does resign, at his cost, is he not better as a trade asset? He's so marketable and talented, but equally frail and overrated, with a clearly limited impact on winning.

Is that why he a championship in Cleveland?

LeBron won him a championship in Cleveland, without any let down after trading him.  Last year's CLE roster was probably the worst team to reach the Finals in recent memory.

The mental gymnastics that you go through to justify your Kyrie hate is astounding.

And saying “without any let down” is nonsense. Last year was by far the most difficult time that Cavs team had getting to the Finals, barely getting there by squeaking out two game 7 wins. And it’s funny that you point that out, because Kyrie being injured for the C’s is probably the only reason the Cavs even got to to game 7 with us.

And Kyrie put up 25.2 points, 4.7 assists, 3.0 rebounds, and 1.7 steals on 48% fg% and 44% 3pfg%, along with sealing the championship with the dagger three. Lebron doesn’t win a championship in Cleveland without Kyrie, and to suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

LeBron dragging that horrible team to the Finals speaks to his utter dominance.  Kyrie was a 2nd fiddle in Cleveland that could've been replaced by more than 20 other guys in the league.  His locker room issues near the end suggest he was aware of that.

Those are empty stats, and I don't consider a low-percentage chuck after several scoreless minutes to be a "dagger."  He has not won before or after LeBron.  But you suggest that is coming? 

For gymnastics, that felt pretty easy, pots.
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Re: Poll: Give The Kyrie Irving-To-Boston Trade A Letter Grade
« Reply #299 on: November 25, 2018, 07:32:17 AM »

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Sexton has looked pretty darn good the last 6 games for the Cavs including a dominant performance in the Cavs upset of the Rockets today.  This is why Irving re-signing is key to the trade for the Celtics.  You can't trade an injury riddled 2 seasons (and at best 1 post season) for the likely at least 8 years of a top rookie,  not to mention the other players given up.  Irving has to re-sign or it is a bad trade for the C's
You keep trying to create doubt that somehow Kyrie isn't going to sign when the coaching staff and front office love Kyrie and Irving has said he will be in Boston long term. The trade is a steal, Kyrie will be here long term.
I absolutely expect Irving to sign a max extension this summer but it doesn't mean he will either.  You can't really grade the trade until he does though because it is vastly different grades based on that decision.
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