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Floyd Mayweather-Conor McGregor fight finalized for Aug. 26.
https://sports.yahoo.com/floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-fight-finalized-aug-26-205101486.html
What you think? My prediction is Mayweather wins relatively easily.
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You're burning money if you order this fight.
Mayweather will do whatever he wants to do. It'll really come down to how much he wants to carry the fight and how much he wants to entertain people.
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I mean, it's all for money and spectacle. It may as well be at Wrestlemania, but it will sell PPVs.
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Congrats on going 50-0 Floyd
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It's a boxing match right? I think MMA style, McGregor would dominate him.
But yea if it's only striking, this is going to be bad.
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Congrats on going 50-0 Floyd
Good point actually, forgot he is only 49-0 to this point. More of an ego builder for record purposes than any real threat for Mayweather. Doubt this fight is even close.
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I'm surprised so many people are sleeping on McGregor right now. He's primarily a stand up striker in the UFC so going to the ring won't be the craziest transition for him. If Floyd were to get into an octagon he would get mopped but I don't think that will be the case with McGregor going to the ring. He's pretty shifty and hits from odd angles.
With that said, I think Floyd will win but it's not gonna be easy. I think his experience and the type of boxer he is will be big factors. But I wouldn't be surprised if McGregor catches him with a good one and steals a win. Remember this is the same guy who jumped 2 weight classes and people thought he would get wrecked and we know how that turned out.
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I'm a big MMA guy and I certainly expect Mayweather to win this fight, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if McGregor pulled it out. He is 27 and fights a lot. He is mostly a stand up fighter (though obviously uses a lot of kicks which he won't be able to here). McGregor has a slightly longer reach and he is a Southpaw, who will have a more untraditional stance (given the differences in their sports). Mayweather is 40. He hasn't fought in like 2 years. He was never a power puncher and hasn't gotten a TKO in like 7 or 8 years. He has always struggled with Southpaws and guys taller than him.
And the thing about those big boxing gloves, is they protect the hand allowing you to hit a lot harder. I wouldn't be surprised if McGregor makes it a bit of brawl and actually connects one or two flush shots on Mayweather and knocks him down. McGregor hits very hard, much harder than Mayweather.
Ultimately, I think Mayweather wins a very easy decision or gets a late round TKO, because he is such a skilled boxer who always goes the distance, but as I said I wouldn't be all that surprised to see McGregor hurt him with some power shots early. I also think if McGregor is making a fight of it early, Mayweather will be the one that gets frustrated and makes the mistake and not McGregor (which seemed to be some of the early scuttlebutt yesterday).
Given just how big a betting underdog McGregor is, if I were to bet, I'd take the flyer on McGregor, because it really does only take 1 shot, and McGregor does have that in him.
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I'm surprised so many people are sleeping on McGregor right now. He's primarily a stand up striker in the UFC so going to the ring won't be the craziest transition for him. If Floyd were to get into an octagon he would get mopped but I don't think that will be the case with McGregor going to the ring. He's pretty shifty and hits from odd angles.
With that said, I think Floyd will win but it's not gonna be easy. I think his experience and the type of boxer he is will be big factors. But I wouldn't be surprised if McGregor catches him with a good one and steals a win. Remember this is the same guy who jumped 2 weight classes and people thought he would get wrecked and we know how that turned out.
Well, when he jumped two weight classes he got choked out the first time (to avoid getting knocked out), so he kind of did get wrecked that time (and most people did not think he was going to get wrecked at the time).
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Most Mayweather fights I would say go the distance as Floyd will play it safe to secure the victory. But I have a feeling all the little shots McGregor takes are going to affect his stamina and he'll be an easy target in the late rounds for a TKO.
Boxing is a different game, and supposedly McGregor struggles against low level boxers in training.
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I'm a long time boxing fan, and could care less about MMA. This fight is a total joke, and you would have to be a fool to buy this on PPV. Having said that, I would have been interested if they made this a hybrid fight, where they would make it into a kickboxing match. It's not that Mayweather being great that would make the difference, but just the fact that McGregor is fighting a professional boxer. This is typical Mayweather, where he waits to sign for a fight until he knows he has a clear advantage (in this case, strictly boxing rules).
Like I said, I could care less about this fight, so I don't know much about the details involved. Will this be a sanctioned fight, which would allow Mayweather to go 50-0? Or is McGregor considered an amateur, making this more of an exhibition?
I believe MMA fighters need to wear gloves, but they're no where near the size of boxing gloves. McGregor may be able to knock guys out in MMA with gloves so small, that they're virtually fist. However, I doubt his punch will have anywhere near the impact with a boxing glove.
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I'm a long time boxing fan, and could care less about MMA. This fight is a total joke, and you would have to be a fool to buy this on PPV. Having said that, I would have been interested if they made this a hybrid fight, where they would make it into a kickboxing match. It's not that Mayweather being great that would make the difference, but just the fact that McGregor is fighting a professional boxer. This is typical Mayweather, where he waits to sign for a fight until he knows he has a clear advantage (in this case, strictly boxing rules).
Like I said, I could care less about this fight, so I don't know much about the details involved. Will this be a sanctioned fight, which would allow Mayweather to go 50-0? Or is McGregor considered an amateur, making this more of an exhibition?
I believe MMA fighters need to wear gloves, but they're no where near the size of boxing gloves. McGregor may be able to knock guys out in MMA with gloves so small, that they're virtually fist. However, I doubt his punch will have anywhere near the impact with a boxing glove.
gloves protect the hand allowing you to hit harder. The impact is padded more, so there is a lesser effect, but one of the reasons that so many boxers end up with brain damage is the much bigger glove.
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I'm a long time boxing fan, and could care less about MMA. This fight is a total joke, and you would have to be a fool to buy this on PPV. Having said that, I would have been interested if they made this a hybrid fight, where they would make it into a kickboxing match. It's not that Mayweather being great that would make the difference, but just the fact that McGregor is fighting a professional boxer. This is typical Mayweather, where he waits to sign for a fight until he knows he has a clear advantage (in this case, strictly boxing rules).
Like I said, I could care less about this fight, so I don't know much about the details involved. Will this be a sanctioned fight, which would allow Mayweather to go 50-0? Or is McGregor considered an amateur, making this more of an exhibition?
I believe MMA fighters need to wear gloves, but they're no where near the size of boxing gloves. McGregor may be able to knock guys out in MMA with gloves so small, that they're virtually fist. However, I doubt his punch will have anywhere near the impact with a boxing glove.
gloves protect the hand allowing you to hit harder. The impact is padded more, so there is a lesser effect, but one of the reasons that so many boxers end up with brain damage is the much bigger glove.
It goes both ways. Boxing gloves have more surface area which adds to the target that can reach you which means more partial strikes overall, but it does also spread out the impact from a punch and "lessen" the blow. McGregor won't be hitting harder. His hands will just be safer when he does hit. Then again, he might only be hitting air.
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Is anyone taking into consideration the conditioning between the 2 sports? I dislike Mayweather, but he's smart here. He's taking on an MMA fighters who usually go all out for 3 mins for under 5 rounds. Mayweather dodges and weaves for at least 6-8 rounds. His plan is to tire out McGregor
rounds 1-5 while picking his spots with counter punches and then in round 6-10 tying to inflict damage.
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Is anyone taking into consideration the conditioning between the 2 sports? I dislike Mayweather, but he's smart here. He's taking on an MMA fighters who usually go all out for 3 mins for under 5 rounds. Mayweather dodges and weaves for at least 6-8 rounds. His plan is to tire out McGregor
rounds 1-5 while picking his spots with counter punches and then in round 6-10 tying to inflict damage.
I hesitate to chalk it up to conditioning, because McGregor will be well-conditioned. But you're absolutely right that there is a difference in the type of stamina he will need. Not only will he be going for more rounds, but he'll still be taking shots here and there for the first five rounds. McGregor has never taken shots for five straight rounds. That will be different for him, mentally and physically. Even blows that don't knock you out or wind you, still affect your stamina. That's why I think he'll be a sitting duck for some bigger, cleaner shots in the later rounds like you suggest.
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If anybody wants to give updates nooooobbbody's stoppin you
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I'm a huge boxing fan. I see almost every big fight and many smaller ones. Heck, I've been in some dives watching fights before.
This one is a joke and I have no interest in watching it. McGregor should have never been sanctioned for this fight. It's one thing if he took on a top 20 guy like Berto or even a moderately successful guy like Brandon Rios or Brandon Alvarado. Win that and at least we know you belong in the ring. But a first-time match against Mayweather (who I consider over-rated)? That's a joke and the only reason it was sanctioned was money.
Frankly, I hope McGregor forgets and kicks Mayweather in the head. I'd love it if they somehow both lost.
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Im more interested in the undercard.
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I want to see Conor win so that everyone so sure about Floyd winning the fight is wrong, like Hillary pollsters or like Falcon fans at 28-3.
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I want to see Conor win so that everyone so sure about Floyd winning the fight is wrong, like Hillary pollsters or like Falcon fans at 28-3.
Connor haven't shown anything in his training and sparring that he stood a chance.
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Does Mayweather care more about 50-0, or another $100+ million?
Because, a rematch after a loss is the only way he gets this huge of a payday again.
I think he wants the record, though.
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I want to see Conor win so that everyone so sure about Floyd winning the fight is wrong, like Hillary pollsters or like Falcon fans at 28-3.
I'll go along with that
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I want to see Conor win so that everyone so sure about Floyd winning the fight is wrong, like Hillary pollsters or like Falcon fans at 28-3.
I'll go along with that
I hope McGreggor wins too, but I just can't imagine it even being much of a fight. The greatest boxer of a generation is fighting a guy who is making his pro boxing debut. McGreggor is a great mixed martial artist, but it so different than boxing in so many ways. The Patriots comeback was against a lot of odds, but this would be like the Patriots losing to the All Blacks in American football... or vice versa.
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Sure wish there was a stream out there.
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Isn't this some type of gimmick to make money?
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Sure wish there was a stream out there.
From what I hear the people who actually paid to watch are having enough problems to begin with.
I don't follow boxing or MMA, but the whole thing feels like a gimmick and both guys seem like terrible people so, I hope the ring explodes while everyone's feed is frozen on Dana White's bloated head.
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Isn't this some type of gimmick to make money?
God bless America
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I don't know why anyone would buy this travesty of a fight BUT if you buy it and invite me to watch I won't say no.
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Sure wish there was a stream out there.
From what I hear the people who actually paid to watch are having enough problems to begin with.
I don't follow boxing or MMA, but the whole thing feels like a gimmick and both guys seem like terrible people so, I hope the ring explodes while everyone's feed is frozen on Dana White's bloated head.
I'm surprised, what are the issues?
Surely a gimmick, no winners here. I've always for someone to deviate from the script and KO Mayweather, though. I believe Shane Mosley almost did, but backed off as expected.
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Isn't this some type of gimmick to make money?
Yes
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I don't know why anyone would buy this travesty of a fight BUT if you buy it and invite me to watch I won't say no.
I really do want to watch this, but out of principle, I'm not paying a cover at a bar or ordering it at home. I refuse to pay a dollar to this farce as interesting as it is.
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It is almost 9 on the west coast means it is almost 12 midnight on the east coast ....no fight yet.
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Fight is about to start, after saying I'd never pay for it... I paid for it, I really hope Mayweather gets destroyed
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I think it's hilarious that the gimmick...I mean fight...of the century is being held up for PPV "problems." What's the problem? Not enough suckers yet?
This is why PPV is a terrible model. People watch it once and then never again.
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Why is Mayweather coming out like a ninja?
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Why is Mayweather coming out like a ninja?
Genius diva move. Instant legend.
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If this fight is anything like the undercard we are in for a treat
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Will money trump integrity?
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Crowd loves McGregor and hates Mayweather
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I'm doing this for now. This is way too late at night for me to watch, let alone spend money on
https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/mayweather-vs-mcgregor-live-fight-results-updates-card-highlights-showtime-ppv/ (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/mayweather-vs-mcgregor-live-fight-results-updates-card-highlights-showtime-ppv/)
http://bleacherreport.com/live-blogs/mayweather-vs-mcgregor-8-26-2017 (http://bleacherreport.com/live-blogs/mayweather-vs-mcgregor-8-26-2017)
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McGregor easily wins round one
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If Mac can avoid walking into a hook it is going to be a long night for May
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If McGregor wins this does that automatically make him the single greatest pound for pound fighter ever? Or is that overkill?
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Is it common for Mayweather to give away a first round to read a guy?
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McGregor up 2 rounds to 0
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Second round to Mac.....May is in for a fight.
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3-0 McGregor after 3
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Connor may win fight if he doesn't get DQd for pounding in the back of head.
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Well I guess McGregor doesn't need to fight till Mayweather does. I would think if Mayweather is depending on superior conditioning to win him this thing he has miscalculated
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Haha
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I am so glad I got this fight, what a round!!!
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4-0 Mac
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Opinions seem to be diverging a bit on what's happening
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Another good round, Mayweather throws a cheap shot well after the bell to McGregors back
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Mac is getting tired. Fight may be over
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This fight is phenomenal so far, it's rare a fight lives up to the hype like this
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Finally someone got Floyd to actually fight.
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Finally someone got Floyd to actually fight.
Maidana and Cotto already did before him.
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It will go to the judges and no way in hell will they let Connor beat Floyd. Wil be a split deceSion and a 2nd fight why cause that last hats good for business.
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This one looks like just a matter of time before Mac goes down.
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It will go to the judges and no way in hell will they let Connor beat Floyd. Wil be a split deceSion and a 2nd fight why cause that last hats good for business.
Mayweather already lead in my score card by a margin. Connor is getting gassed.
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He's faring much better than I thought.. but has Conor actually landed a single decent punch?
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Last fight I paid for was paquio vs Marquez 2 or 3
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He's faring much better than I thought.. but has Conor actually landed a single decent punch?
Yeah, but it was a while ago
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Tough round to score
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I think McGregor won round 8
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McGregor may be tied in round 8. I find that amazing as I am reading it
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Mayweather is hurt
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Connor......DONE ....
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Connor is completely tired and hanging on to survive
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Mac is not going 12..
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That was one of the best live feeds I ever read
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They need to fight again, I think McGregor was winning on the scorecards until the ref stopped it
Great fight
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So I guess we have to take back the part where we used words like "gimmick." I would think if these guys like making 100mill there will be a rematch in a reasonable amount of time.
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Is it over??
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
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For a rematch Mac will have to show he can go more than 25 minutes..... I like him because he went right after Mayweather and made him fight.
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They need to fight again, I think McGregor was winning on the scorecards until the ref stopped it
(https://media.tenor.com/images/11f5afd33233ac04afe44bd3fcdb85c2/tenor.gif)
Floyd was just adjusting in the early rounds. Rematch would be the same or much worse unless Floyd dramatically age. Credits to Connor for making Floyd work though.
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You think McGregor just peaked as a boxer?
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Ok. Now let's see Mayweather go fight MMA with McGregor.
Then they can do karate or something for the tie breaker
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Hearing Mayweather is just going to retire. Kinda sad. Although he has made a billion dollars so there's that
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They need to fight again, I think McGregor was winning on the scorecards until the ref stopped it
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Floyd was just adjusting in the early rounds. Rematch would be the same or much worse unless Floyd dramatically age. Credits to Connor for making Floyd work though.
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Too intriguing. The only thing better than gimmick is super gimmick.
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
Because it's fixed.
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
Because it's fixed.
It's boxing, not the NBA
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
Because it's fixed.
It's boxing, not the NBA
Great point.
My favorite quote that has been on FB so far: "2 petite men are about to get paid."
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Boxing actually put the X in fixed.
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
(https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/rocky/images/e/e2/Rocky-ii_33ebcd_mini.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/220?cb=20160120143241)
Based on a true story!
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
Great boxers gets smoke in the first few rounds then proceeds to cruise in the entire fight.
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
I dont think that metaphor is right. Its more like, if Rondo tried 100m dash.
Boxing is a part of MMA, no where is US football a component of basketball.
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
(https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/rocky/images/e/e2/Rocky-ii_33ebcd_mini.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/220?cb=20160120143241)
Based on a true story!
Lol'd, I think you're actually right.
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
I dont think that metaphor is right. Its more like, if Rondo tried 100m dash.
Boxing is a part of MMA, no where is US football a component of basketball.
I don't know, Rondo is a great passer and has incredible vision. He also would be able to scramble well. Basketball involves various skills and versatility, where individual positions in football are more specialized (like boxing is under the realm of 'fighting').
Anyway, like I said, the most I know about fighting is Mike Tyson's Punchout and Wrestlemania for the NES. I apologize if I come off as an air-head. Fun fight, though - great for all involved.
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
I dont think that metaphor is right. Its more like, if Rondo tried 100m dash.
Boxing is a part of MMA, no where is US football a component of basketball.
Besides, what else was Floyd supposed to do? At 40 he took down a 29 yr old physical specimen that out-measured him in every physical statistical category.
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
I dont think that metaphor is right. Its more like, if Rondo tried 100m dash.
Boxing is a part of MMA, no where is US football a component of basketball.
Besides, what else was Floyd supposed to do? At 40 he took down a 29 yr old physical specimen that out-measured him in every physical statistical category.
Facts. lol the old man hasn't had a TKO in years.
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
Great boxers gets smoke in the first few rounds then proceeds to cruise in the entire fight.
It's not coincidence, it's strategy. Mayweather was never hurt.
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
I dont think that metaphor is right. Its more like, if Rondo tried 100m dash.
Boxing is a part of MMA, no where is US football a component of basketball.
Besides, what else was Floyd supposed to do? At 40 he took down a 29 yr old physical specimen that out-measured him in every physical statistical category.
There's nothing he can do now. But he should've fought any one of the true competitors during his time-- Pacquiao, Canelo, Manuel Marquez (at an even weight), Cotto -- in their prime.
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
I don't know, Rondo is a great passer and has incredible vision. He also would be able to scramble well. Basketball involves various skills and versatility, where individual positions in football are more specialized (like boxing is under the realm of 'fighting').
Anyway, like I said, the most I know about fighting is Mike Tyson's Punchout and Wrestlemania for the NES. I apologize if I come off as an air-head. Fun fight, though - great for all involved.
I dont think that metaphor is right. Its more like, if Rondo tried 100m dash.
Boxing is a part of MMA, no where is US football a component of basketball.
also rondo said he grew up wanting to play football
#Celtics Rajon Rondo: I respect what (NFL) players do, I don't take it lightly, but I think I could have played, could have given it a shot.
— Scott Souza (@scott_souza) December 11, 2012
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
Not even close. There's no legend here. McGregor just lost to a 40 year old man whose last real KO came when George Bush was still President. Not to mention he just about got blanked on two of the scorecards.
Never mind the guy who beat him is overrated as hell. Just look at the list of guys May has ducked the last few years:
Pacquiao (until Manny was knocked flat by Marquez and his hand speed slowed dramatically)
Danny Garcia
Keith Thurman
Errol Spense Jr.
Kell Brook
Shawn Porter
That's the best of the division and Mayweather ducked them all. That's his legacy - ducking the best guys when they were at their best. And McGregor's glass chin broke when hit by Mayweather.
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
I still think Charlie Ward would've been fine in the NFL
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I just re-read my posts on the first page of this topic from June 15th and now it almost sounds like I knew what I was talking about:
"Most Mayweather fights I would say go the distance as Floyd will play it safe to secure the victory. But I have a feeling all the little shots McGregor takes are going to affect his stamina and he'll be an easy target in the late rounds for a TKO."
And
"I hesitate to chalk it up to conditioning, because McGregor will be well-conditioned. But you're absolutely right that there is a difference in the type of stamina he will need. Not only will he be going for more rounds, but he'll still be taking shots here and there for the first five rounds. McGregor has never taken shots for five straight rounds. That will be different for him, mentally and physically. Even blows that don't knock you out or wind you, still affect your stamina. That's why I think he'll be a sitting duck for some bigger, cleaner shots in the later rounds like you suggest."
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
Not even close. There's no legend here. McGregor just lost to a 40 year old man whose last real KO came when George Bush was still President. Not to mention he just about got blanked on two of the scorecards.
Never mind the guy who beat him is overrated as hell. Just look at the list of guys May has ducked the last few years:
Pacquiao (until Manny was knocked flat by Marquez and his hand speed slowed dramatically)
Danny Garcia
Keith Thurman
Errol Spense Jr.
Kell Brook
Shawn Porter
That's the best of the division and Mayweather ducked them all. That's his legacy - ducking the best guys when they were at their best. And McGregor's glass chin broke when hit by Mayweather.
If McGregor got blanked on two of the score cards, then boxing has absolutely ZERO credibility left!! There is NO way that McGregor did not handily, and I do mean HANDILY, win the first three rounds and that fight should have been 4 rounds a piece after 8. Mayweather hardly threw any punches in the first three rounds and they were NOT even close.
Boxing is getting absurd!! I literally stayed up quite late watching the Pacquiao/Horn fight in Australia in July and saw Pac dominate and the charts PROVED that he dominated the fight and then watched the JUDGES give Horn (who was fighting in his home country) the fight, a unanimous decision no less.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao-vs-horn-jeff-horn-win-wbo-title-and-the-rest-of-the-world-wasnt-happy/news-story/d7263b262f5d6e825f430063bf8f0dfa
Maybe I should just STOP WATCHING boxing, because IF two judges gave zero rounds to McGregor, boxing is truly FIXED and beyond saving.
Smitty77
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I really don't care about fighting/boxing, but this has to be a blemish on boxing in general, right? It's like if Rondo said he wanted to be a QB and went out and actually played well without ever having really played the sport before.
It was a good fight and Mayweather deserved to win, but I can't believe he didn't actually just smoke him in the first two rounds. In the UFC, McGregor would kill Mayweather.
Anyway, interesting fight and I am happy it lived up to expectations.
Great boxers gets smoke in the first few rounds then proceeds to cruise in the entire fight.
It's not coincidence, it's strategy. Mayweather was never hurt.
I would BET that Mayweather would NOT last 60 seconds in the octagon vs. McGregor!!!!
McGregor is the MAN that fought totally OUT of his element and showed incredible heart and grit. This was by NO means an impressive victory for Mayweather. No, IF Mayweather lasted 5 rounds in the octagon vs. McGregor, that WOULD be IMPRESSIVE. But it simply would NEVER EVER happen, because he might not even last one minute.
Smitty77
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
Not even close. There's no legend here. McGregor just lost to a 40 year old man whose last real KO came when George Bush was still President. Not to mention he just about got blanked on two of the scorecards.
Never mind the guy who beat him is overrated as hell. Just look at the list of guys May has ducked the last few years:
Pacquiao (until Manny was knocked flat by Marquez and his hand speed slowed dramatically)
Danny Garcia
Keith Thurman
Errol Spense Jr.
Kell Brook
Shawn Porter
That's the best of the division and Mayweather ducked them all. That's his legacy - ducking the best guys when they were at their best. And McGregor's glass chin broke when hit by Mayweather.
If McGregor got blanked on two of the score cards, then boxing has absolutely ZERO credibility left!! There is NO way that McGregor did not handily, and I do mean HANDILY, win the first three rounds and that fight should have been 4 rounds a piece after 8. Mayweather hardly threw any punches in the first three rounds and they were NOT even close.
Boxing is getting absurd!! I literally stayed up quite late watching the Pacquiao/Horn fight in Australia in July and saw Pac dominate and the charts PROVED that he dominated the fight and then watched the JUDGES give Horn (who was fighting in his home country) the fight, a unanimous decision no less.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao-vs-horn-jeff-horn-win-wbo-title-and-the-rest-of-the-world-wasnt-happy/news-story/d7263b262f5d6e825f430063bf8f0dfa
Maybe I should just STOP WATCHING boxing, because IF two judges gave zero rounds to McGregor, boxing is truly FIXED and beyond saving.
Smitty77
I was being a bit facetious but Mayweather was up considerably on the scoring. The three scorecards were:
89-81, 89-82 & 87-83
#1 - 8 rounds to Mayweather (one a 10-8 round) and 1 to McGregor.
#2 - 8 rounds to Mayweather and 1 to McGregor.
#3 - 6 rounds to Mayweather (one a 108) and 3 to McGregor
In short, Connor wasn't anywhere close. I'm not sure how though. Mayweather landed 2, 5 and 5 punches the first 3 rounds according to CompUBox. So yeah, the judging was questionable.
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I would BET that Mayweather would NOT last 60 seconds in the octagon vs. McGregor!!!!
McGregor is the MAN that fought totally OUT of his element and showed incredible heart and grit. This was by NO means an impressive victory for Mayweather. No, IF Mayweather lasted 5 rounds in the octagon vs. McGregor, that WOULD be IMPRESSIVE. But it simply would NEVER EVER happen, because he might not even last one minute.
Just out of curiousity, how do you think McGregor will do in the chess olympics?
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Proved to be a much more entertaining fight than I anticipated. I wonder how much Mayweather was really toying with him, though. He knew that McGregor was going to run out of gas and you could see it coming from about Round 6 on. I'm actually amazed it went all the way to Round 10. Needless to say, probably a good thing that Mayweather is done (apparently). You could see the rust & the age on him.
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Looks like the official numbers are in, 4.3 million buys, 2nd most all time behind Manny/Floyd which was 4.6 million.
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Looks like the official numbers are in, 4.3 million buys, 2nd most all time behind Manny/Floyd which was 4.6 million.
I would be very curious to know the breakdown as to how many were boxing fans, UFC fans, and people just caught up in the hype. As a boxing fan, I had zero interest.
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
Not even close. There's no legend here. McGregor just lost to a 40 year old man whose last real KO came when George Bush was still President. Not to mention he just about got blanked on two of the scorecards.
Never mind the guy who beat him is overrated as hell. Just look at the list of guys May has ducked the last few years:
Pacquiao (until Manny was knocked flat by Marquez and his hand speed slowed dramatically)
Danny Garcia
Keith Thurman
Errol Spense Jr.
Kell Brook
Shawn Porter
That's the best of the division and Mayweather ducked them all. That's his legacy - ducking the best guys when they were at their best. And McGregor's glass chin broke when hit by Mayweather.
If McGregor got blanked on two of the score cards, then boxing has absolutely ZERO credibility left!! There is NO way that McGregor did not handily, and I do mean HANDILY, win the first three rounds and that fight should have been 4 rounds a piece after 8. Mayweather hardly threw any punches in the first three rounds and they were NOT even close.
Boxing is getting absurd!! I literally stayed up quite late watching the Pacquiao/Horn fight in Australia in July and saw Pac dominate and the charts PROVED that he dominated the fight and then watched the JUDGES give Horn (who was fighting in his home country) the fight, a unanimous decision no less.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao-vs-horn-jeff-horn-win-wbo-title-and-the-rest-of-the-world-wasnt-happy/news-story/d7263b262f5d6e825f430063bf8f0dfa
Maybe I should just STOP WATCHING boxing, because IF two judges gave zero rounds to McGregor, boxing is truly FIXED and beyond saving.
Smitty77
Ha. If you thought that was bad, what did you think of GGG/Canelo?
Boxing is probably my second favorite sport behind basketball. I watch almost all fights, go to some bigger ones, and keep up with everything I miss. But it’s got to be the most corrupt sport.
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
Not even close. There's no legend here. McGregor just lost to a 40 year old man whose last real KO came when George Bush was still President. Not to mention he just about got blanked on two of the scorecards.
Never mind the guy who beat him is overrated as hell. Just look at the list of guys May has ducked the last few years:
Pacquiao (until Manny was knocked flat by Marquez and his hand speed slowed dramatically)
Danny Garcia
Keith Thurman
Errol Spense Jr.
Kell Brook
Shawn Porter
That's the best of the division and Mayweather ducked them all. That's his legacy - ducking the best guys when they were at their best. And McGregor's glass chin broke when hit by Mayweather.
If McGregor got blanked on two of the score cards, then boxing has absolutely ZERO credibility left!! There is NO way that McGregor did not handily, and I do mean HANDILY, win the first three rounds and that fight should have been 4 rounds a piece after 8. Mayweather hardly threw any punches in the first three rounds and they were NOT even close.
Boxing is getting absurd!! I literally stayed up quite late watching the Pacquiao/Horn fight in Australia in July and saw Pac dominate and the charts PROVED that he dominated the fight and then watched the JUDGES give Horn (who was fighting in his home country) the fight, a unanimous decision no less.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao-vs-horn-jeff-horn-win-wbo-title-and-the-rest-of-the-world-wasnt-happy/news-story/d7263b262f5d6e825f430063bf8f0dfa
Maybe I should just STOP WATCHING boxing, because IF two judges gave zero rounds to McGregor, boxing is truly FIXED and beyond saving.
Smitty77
Ha. If you thought that was bad, what did you think of GGG/Canelo?
Boxing is probably my second favorite sport behind basketball. I watch almost all fights, go to some bigger ones, and keep up with everything I miss. But it’s got to be the most corrupt sport.
That was a travesty, SMH. just awful.
The shame of it is that it was a terrific fight, and the fighters and the fans deserved an honest result.
A buddy of mine and I hosted a party to watch it. While I do think we got our money's worth from the main bout (the undercard was horrible :P), I felt a little ashamed that I pumped actual cash into this corrupt sport.
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Is that basically the greatest moral victory in the history of fighting per se? Has anyone else had a loss, yet became an instant legend the same night?
Within the context of a loss McGregor seems to have done better than anyone could have asked
Not even close. There's no legend here. McGregor just lost to a 40 year old man whose last real KO came when George Bush was still President. Not to mention he just about got blanked on two of the scorecards.
Never mind the guy who beat him is overrated as hell. Just look at the list of guys May has ducked the last few years:
Pacquiao (until Manny was knocked flat by Marquez and his hand speed slowed dramatically)
Danny Garcia
Keith Thurman
Errol Spense Jr.
Kell Brook
Shawn Porter
That's the best of the division and Mayweather ducked them all. That's his legacy - ducking the best guys when they were at their best. And McGregor's glass chin broke when hit by Mayweather.
If McGregor got blanked on two of the score cards, then boxing has absolutely ZERO credibility left!! There is NO way that McGregor did not handily, and I do mean HANDILY, win the first three rounds and that fight should have been 4 rounds a piece after 8. Mayweather hardly threw any punches in the first three rounds and they were NOT even close.
Boxing is getting absurd!! I literally stayed up quite late watching the Pacquiao/Horn fight in Australia in July and saw Pac dominate and the charts PROVED that he dominated the fight and then watched the JUDGES give Horn (who was fighting in his home country) the fight, a unanimous decision no less.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao-vs-horn-jeff-horn-win-wbo-title-and-the-rest-of-the-world-wasnt-happy/news-story/d7263b262f5d6e825f430063bf8f0dfa
Maybe I should just STOP WATCHING boxing, because IF two judges gave zero rounds to McGregor, boxing is truly FIXED and beyond saving.
Smitty77
Ha. If you thought that was bad, what did you think of GGG/Canelo?
Boxing is probably my second favorite sport behind basketball. I watch almost all fights, go to some bigger ones, and keep up with everything I miss. But it’s got to be the most corrupt sport.
That was a travesty, SMH. just awful.
The shame of it is that it was a terrific fight, and the fighters and the fans deserved an honest result.
A buddy of mine and I hosted a party to watch it. While I do think we got our money's worth from the main bout (the undercard was horrible :P), I felt a little ashamed that I pumped actual cash into this corrupt sport.
It was indeed a sad night for the sport. I too hosted a party for that (as I do pretty much every GGG fight) and it was embarrassing. When something so egregious takes away from the quality of the fight itself, it’s truly sad.
I hope for a rematch sooner than later and Golovkin is more aggressive (especially to the body) and doesn’t give the Adelaide Byrd’s of the world a chance to mess this one up as well.
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GGG definitely won the fight. But, worse than that, the fight should've taken place 2-3 years ago. Same can be said of Manny vs. Mayweather, etc etc. It's a shame... I've also always been a big fan of the sport.