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Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2009, 08:04:38 AM »

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Bring in Steph!

Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2009, 08:25:10 AM »

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It would be hugely disappointing if the C's brought in this guy. 

Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2009, 08:25:23 AM »

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Why does everyone think this is a great idea? If his performance over the past few seasons is any indicator how his game would complement the Celtics, why even bother?

Theoretically, we could move House to the 2 where he's better suited (not necessarily defensively though, as he's certain to continue getting burned even as a 2) while Marbury handles the ball... but that whole theory lies under the assumption that Marbury would defer to the team game.

Forgive me for having doubts specifically about Marbury's willingness to "buy" in. Another thing - his game has always been more suited to play the Rucker Park type ball. If you are ready for lots of crossover dribbles and forced up shots that appear drawn out of an and-1 tourney than an NBA playbook, be my guest, have your Marbury. I think if Marbury becomes a key part of the rotation, it'll be a disaster warning. We won't perform any better than we did during this road trip. He'll stagnate the second unit even more than it's already been doing on its own.

Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2009, 08:27:28 AM »

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Which way do you want it,one minute some of us are preaching character issues about players around the league,and the next minute we are overlooking it.Are the Celtics that desparate to take a chance on a guy who hasn't played much in the last couple seasons,that can potentially become a locker room disruption.One other thing KG is a player on this team not the team's counselor.Im sure he is the person who speaks up/out if there's problems that potentially will hurt the team but to expect a player to oversee another player's behavior doesn't seem like the right way to go.  

Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2009, 08:31:00 AM »

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Which way do you want it,one minute some of us are preaching character issues about players around the league,and the next minute we are overlooking it.Are the Celtics that desparate to take a chance on a guy who hasn't played much in the last couple seasons,that can potentially become a locker room disruption.One other thing KG is a player on this team not the team's counselor.Im sure he is the person who speaks up/out if there's problems that potentially will hurt the team but to expect a player to oversee another player's behavior doesn't seem like the right way to go.  

Yes, imo, the Celtics are desperate.  Have you not seen the performance of this awful bench?  No way in heck the Celtics repeat with this roster.  Bring on Starbury!
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Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2009, 08:31:38 AM »

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Why does everyone think this is a great idea? If his performance over the past few seasons is any indicator how his game would complement the Celtics, why even bother?

Theoretically, we could move House to the 2 where he's better suited (not necessarily defensively though, as he's certain to continue getting burned even as a 2) while Marbury handles the ball... but that whole theory lies under the assumption that Marbury would defer to the team game.

Forgive me for having doubts specifically about Marbury's willingness to "buy" in. Another thing - his game has always been more suited to play the Rucker Park type ball. If you are ready for lots of crossover dribbles and forced up shots that appear drawn out of an and-1 tourney than an NBA playbook, be my guest, have your Marbury. I think if Marbury becomes a key part of the rotation, it'll be a disaster warning. We won't perform any better than we did during this road trip. He'll stagnate the second unit even more than it's already been doing on its own.

so your saying he's TA except with a better handle?

all TA does is crossover (badly) and drive, at least starbury is comptent at the move.
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Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2009, 08:35:36 AM »

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Pretty simple: If he doesn't buy in, cut him.

But I will say this: Comparing Steph to TA was a good one. Nothing like a laugh on the first work day of the new year.

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Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2009, 08:36:53 AM »

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No to Marbury.



When is the last time he has had a positive effect on a team?  (besides when he leaves the team)


When is the last time he happily took a back seat to someone on a team?



Celtics need role players off the bench, not a me first stat hanger.

Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2009, 08:53:19 AM »

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While I agree that Marbury will have to change his ways for this to work, i don't think that he is
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a me first stat hanger.
A couple of years ago he was dishing out 6 assists and shooting 45%.  He has so much game that he can be two different players.  He can be a ball hog, or he can dish the rock. 

If this goes through, then he will make House look awesome.  Eddie will be at his natural 2.

Marbury
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TA
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Geez we need a big.  We need a big in a big way.

Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2009, 08:59:14 AM »

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While I agree that Marbury will have to change his ways for this to work, i don't think that he is
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a me first stat hanger.
A couple of years ago he was dishing out 6 assists and shooting 45%.  He has so much game that he can be two different players.  He can be a ball hog, or he can dish the rock. 

If this goes through, then he will make House look awesome.  Eddie will be at his natural 2.

Marbury
Eddie
TA
Powe
Big Baby

Geez we need a big.  We need a big in a big way.


And how did his TEAM do when he was putting up those stats?


He (like AI and Francis) gets assists because the ball is in his hand so often. 

Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2009, 08:59:30 AM »

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The only reason this might work is that Marbury has a lot of respect for KG.  If the Knicks buy out Marbury, I could see him in green.  Not saying I want to, but I could see it.  I could also see it working, if KG keeps Marbury in line and if Marbury, desperate to prove all the haters wrong, gets it into his head that it isnt a bad thing to come off the bench as a 6th (or 7th) man.  Oh, and that he learns a thing or two about D.

Marbury has no respect for KG from what I Know...they were friends when they were like teens and early 20's, it ended ugly and they've never been close since...its gonna be up to Marbury to want to prove his critics wrong
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Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2009, 08:59:38 AM »

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I would feel much more comfortable with the bench line up as shown below.

Marbury
Tony Allen
Pierce/ Ray Allen
Powe
Smith? Mourning? Baby?
« Last Edit: January 02, 2009, 09:07:06 AM by KungPoweChicken »

Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2009, 09:07:52 AM »

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While I agree that Marbury will have to change his ways for this to work, i don't think that he is
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a me first stat hanger.
A couple of years ago he was dishing out 6 assists and shooting 45%.  He has so much game that he can be two different players.  He can be a ball hog, or he can dish the rock. 

If this goes through, then he will make House look awesome.  Eddie will be at his natural 2.

Marbury
Eddie
TA
Powe
Big Baby

Geez we need a big.  We need a big in a big way.


And how did his TEAM do when he was putting up those stats?


He (like AI and Francis) gets assists because the ball is in his hand so often. 

He wasn't playing on a team this good though, with 3 hall of famers.  I don't think there is a chance in hell Marbury could mess things up.  If he tries, he's gone, plain and simple.
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Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2009, 09:10:50 AM »

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While I agree that Marbury will have to change his ways for this to work, i don't think that he is
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a me first stat hanger.
A couple of years ago he was dishing out 6 assists and shooting 45%.  He has so much game that he can be two different players.  He can be a ball hog, or he can dish the rock. 

If this goes through, then he will make House look awesome.  Eddie will be at his natural 2.

Marbury
Eddie
TA
Powe
Big Baby

Geez we need a big.  We need a big in a big way.


And how did his TEAM do when he was putting up those stats?


He (like AI and Francis) gets assists because the ball is in his hand so often. 

He wasn't playing on a team this good though, with 3 hall of famers.  I don't think there is a chance in hell Marbury could mess things up.  If he tries, he's gone, plain and simple.

True he has never been on a team this good. 


But he has never brought a team up except by leaving.  Nets, Suns, Knicks; all improved once he was removed. 


He has a ton of talent.  Could have been the best PG of his era.  But how he plays the game doesn't lead to wins in the NBA.

Re: ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal
« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2009, 09:32:10 AM »

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While I agree that Marbury will have to change his ways for this to work, i don't think that he is
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a me first stat hanger.
A couple of years ago he was dishing out 6 assists and shooting 45%.  He has so much game that he can be two different players.  He can be a ball hog, or he can dish the rock. 

If this goes through, then he will make House look awesome.  Eddie will be at his natural 2.

Marbury
Eddie
TA
Powe
Big Baby

Geez we need a big.  We need a big in a big way.


And how did his TEAM do when he was putting up those stats?


He (like AI and Francis) gets assists because the ball is in his hand so often. 

He wasn't playing on a team this good though, with 3 hall of famers.  I don't think there is a chance in hell Marbury could mess things up.  If he tries, he's gone, plain and simple.

True he has never been on a team this good. 


But he has never brought a team up except by leaving.  Nets, Suns, Knicks; all improved once he was removed. 


He has a ton of talent.  Could have been the best PG of his era.  But how he plays the game doesn't lead to wins in the NBA.

Well it sounds like he's coming whether we like or not, so might as well get on board and hope it works out.  At least that's my thinking.
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