I wouldn't include Brown but I would trade 1 for George after Hayward or Griffin was signed as a free agent because in that scenario I don't think George leaves in free agency
It would be ridiculous to trade for the Lake-loving George by thinking he won't leave in free agency.
You mean like Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook, Demarr DeRozan, and countless other players that were supposed to go to LA. Winning matters. More dollars matter. George has said numerous times he wants to win and that is the most important thing to him. He isn't going to leave a contender to go to a dumpster fire.
Not without an extension up front. I wouldn't trust him just like DeAndre Jordan dumped Dallas. Not worth the risk.
then you don't make the trade because he can't sign an extension up front without leaving a ton of money on the table. It is a wholly unreasonable request. Love told Cleveland he would re-up and that is why Cleveland made the trade. Love re-upped because you know winning matters (so does all that extra money you get by re-signing rather than leaving).
If you guys don't want to win just say it rather than making up reasons not to trade a pick that you hope someday might be half the player Paul George is.
That's some really poor logic, Moronis. I'm a fan of PG13 but there's no way that most anyone would trade the #1 overall pick in a strong draft for anyone who might be a one year rental.
#1 - Doing so entirely blows cap flexibility. Once you get him that's it - you're set with that team. Is it good enough to beat Cleveland and GS in the next 2-3 years before Horford is too old? Do you really think that going all in right now is the right move?
#2 - You have no idea if PG13 wants to resign with the Celtics. For all we know, the Lakers win 40 games next year and become a more attractive FA destination. Or the Clippers (there are two teams in LA you know) remain relevant enough to attract him. The contract duration HAS to be taken into account and you can't waive your hand and say this isn't a factor and still be taken seriously.
#3 - If you think that the #1 overall pick will only be "half the player" that PG13 is then you're in the extreme minority. Nice job trying to downplay it but most experts are in agreement that Fultz on the low side is a 20+ ppg scorer and on the high side potentially one of the best in the NBA. Neither of those is just half of PG13.
#4 - We just drafted a player #3 last year that plays the exact same position. It would be much more logical to move Jaylen Brown + something else to get PG13 than it would Fultz.
It has nothing to do with "not wanting to win". It has everything to do with building a dynasty, cap management and timing. Treating the game like it's NBA 2K17 might work on your PS4 but it's not a great way to build a team in the real world.