Monta Ellis is a loser with a me-first attitude and no interest in defense.
No thanks.
even if Morrow and Biedrins are with him? I love Morrow he can score 30 on any given night especially with Rondo getting him the ball
Oh hell yea!!!!!! if we can get Morrow in this trade do it! the kid is the next Ray Allen ( at least shooting wise)
You must never have heard of chemistry, fits, sharing of the ball, terrible contracts and salary cap, don't you?
That is way too much talent coming back not to do it, We have shooting off the bench with Morrow. We have to lightning quick guards who can get to the basket at will.
Morrow shooting
08-09 = 48% FG's , 47% 3pt , 87% FT
09-10 = 49% fgs , 45 % 3pt , 90 % FT
This would be a steal of a trade
If a bigger guard is taking advantage of Ellis, we still have Daniels
So you're ready to take on two huge contracts for two overrated and not fitting-at-all-in-our-system players (Ellis and Biedrins) just to take Morrow, a really good shooter? That's a lot to take (and to lose - Perk and Ray) just to acquire a bonified roleplayer... again, this is not fantasy basketball, and Morrow's shooting doesn't make up for his poor defense and doesn't make up for the fact that the guy can just shoot - very well, ok, but still, he is a better version of Eddie House and that's it.
You're basically saying that we should do this trade in a heartbeat, losing two key players from our starting five, but hey, that's worth it since we get a bigger and better shooter than Eddie House, a one trick poney player off our bench. Yeah.
well last time I checked this was a message board and I am allowed to have an opinion . Just because YOU say they won't fit doesn't mean its true. I have much more faith in Danny's decision making, no offense. I just think we would be adding so much young talent.
We have to resign perk after next year anyways and he will make the same as Biedrins, yes Perk is better , but not that much
and Ellis + Morrow are better than a 35 yr old SG.
Morrow is better than a role player , he is only in his 2nd year
I'm not saying you shouldn't have your own opinion, I wouldn't say or think something so stupid but I disagree with you. Although young talent is generally better than a 35 year old guard, there are a ton of factors to consider into making such a deal. Swapping old legs for young legs is not a recipe for success.
It's still obvious to me that Ellis would be a terrible fit. And giving Perk away (our only Howard, Shaq, etc, stopper) for the soft Biedrins doesn't make us better, so it's not all about young talent vs old legs...
It looks to me that by considering such trades Danny is thinking that the Celtics should start rebuilding now and I hate this idea. And I don't think you rebuild on Monta Ellis, especially when you already have Rondo.
Maybe you're right and Danny Ainge would be right to consider that a change for scenery would do wonders for Ellis (like Cman suggested and a la Stephen Jackson in Charlotte) but even if that was to happen (which would be a miracle by the way so don't count too hard on it), Monta would still be an undersized guard who can't shoot from three thus can't space the floor. This would be a big problem, regardless of his attitude, because Monta's height will always limit him and create matchups problems for us on the defensive end.
A Martin + Nocioni for Ray deal would be much, much better for us both in short term and long term, and would keep us in the race for the championship this season and beyond... while the Monta Ellis deal would get us in the highlights factory and that's it...
Fortunately this is just a rumor and I hope this deal will stay a rumor forever.