Nice Hands, JO

[housecall]

There are others you can place some of the blame for losing that game besides Nate...look at Ray Allen going 3-13,1-5 from the 3.We all ganged up on Nate because he was the pg but he wasn't the only player having problems shooting.

[Edgar]

There are others you can place some of the blame for losing that game besides Nate...look at Ray Allen going 3-13,1-5 from the 3.We all ganged up on Nate because he was the pg but he wasn't the only player having problems shooting.

BBD was playing terrible in a horrible matchup for him too

[hpantazo]

There are others you can place some of the blame for losing that game besides Nate...look at Ray Allen going 3-13,1-5 from the 3.We all ganged up on Nate because he was the pg but he wasn't the only player having problems shooting.

yea, but Nate got abused by Nelson in the final minutes which cost us the game, whereas the shot Reddick hit was very well defended by Ray. This team wins with defense and they lost that game due to lack of defense in the last few minutes.

[hpantazo]

I wouldn't bank on JO is just insurance with how old, injury prone, and quick to foul out Shaq is. He will be needed to be counted on even with Perk. Yeah he played awful but let's give him at least a month or so to get his cardio and timing back.

Not wanting it to happen, but it's better than 50/50 he's back on the injured list by 1/30/11

we will see how many people still hate JO when he ends up being our only healthy big man for some period during the playoffs. Shaq is old and injury prone, and Perk is not going to be anywhere near 100% until next season (or the season after if there is a lockout), for example, see KG last year. Semih also needs shoulder surgery and has been playing with a injured thumb on his shooting hand. Give JO 5-6 games before you begin to judge him.

[Tai]

JO is a no lose situation as far as I am concerned.  The biggest difference between JO and Sheed is that we needed Sheed -- and I don't mean Game 7.  We needed Sheed all year and throughou the playoffs.  JO is insurance. If all goes to plan, JO won't be needed. Hoefully he'll provide gravy if he gets up to speed, but the big idea is for Perk and Shaq to take most/all of the 5 minutes and KG and Baby to take most/all of the 4 minutes.  Give the guy time to get healthy and then we'll see if he can contribute.

I don't think Danny paid two years of MLE for "insurance". 

But based on O'Neal's history, it's really hard to figure out what Danny was paying for.

Jermaine must have great job interview skills.

He have a pretty sweet turnaround jumper too
and some how a little help deffense

......When he actually shows up.....
......When it's a contract year.....
......When he's not rusty.....
etc etc etc

I can accept not liking JO has been so far. But all these bold accusations with almost nothing to base it off is kinda sad. You make it sound like you want JO to fail to prove yourself right.

[j804]

Nate's 2-15 Nate was a much bigger culprit than Jermaine O'Neal. Especially given that Nate's been starting for over a week now and was missing wide open shots (for the most part).

I just can't get on O'Neal for having a tough game offensively on his first game back, and without Rondo passing to him.

Yeah, I think it was Nate's shooting.  There were so many times he could have put the game away, and he misses.

JO looked like he borrowed Perk's hands.

I dont blame JO for anything...yet it was he first game back from long lay off I expect mega rust.

How Nate got up so many poor shots when we have one of the best shooters in NBA history on our team is beyond me. 

Maybe just maybe because Reddick was sticking to Ray like glue even through screens, and didn't allow Ray an inch of breathin room??

[housecall]

There are others you can place some of the blame for losing that game besides Nate...look at Ray Allen going 3-13,1-5 from the 3.We all ganged up on Nate because he was the pg but he wasn't the only player having problems shooting.

yea, but Nate got abused by Nelson in the final minutes which cost us the game, whereas the shot Reddick hit was very well defended by Ray. This team wins with defense and they lost that game due to lack of defense in the last few minutes.

Agree with you here but i said theres enough blame to go around here.I agree that if Nate had played some tougher D it will have probably been a different outcome in the end.If the team had put their foot on their throats early on when they were up by around 10 and put there defense to work it wouldn't have come down to a shot here and a shot there.I blame the entire team but Nate's screw ups were the most noticable.

[Finkelskyhook]

JO is a no lose situation as far as I am concerned.  The biggest difference between JO and Sheed is that we needed Sheed -- and I don't mean Game 7.  We needed Sheed all year and throughou the playoffs.  JO is insurance. If all goes to plan, JO won't be needed. Hoefully he'll provide gravy if he gets up to speed, but the big idea is for Perk and Shaq to take most/all of the 5 minutes and KG and Baby to take most/all of the 4 minutes.  Give the guy time to get healthy and then we'll see if he can contribute.

I don't think Danny paid two years of MLE for "insurance". 

But based on O'Neal's history, it's really hard to figure out what Danny was paying for.

Jermaine must have great job interview skills.

He have a pretty sweet turnaround jumper too
and some how a little help deffense

......When he actually shows up.....
......When it's a contract year.....
......When he's not rusty.....
etc etc etc

I can accept not liking JO has been so far. But all these bold accusations with almost nothing to base it off is kinda sad. You make it sound like you want JO to fail to prove yourself right.

He plays for my team.  I don't want him to fail.  I saw this as a predictable outcome based on his history. I don't see how he contributes in the post season unless he plays in more than half of the games.  Unless he practices.  He looked completely lost on the court Saturday.   

[Assassin70]

Nate's 2-15 Nate was a much bigger culprit than Jermaine O'Neal. Especially given that Nate's been starting for over a week now and was missing wide open shots (for the most part).

I just can't get on O'Neal for having a tough game offensively on his first game back, and without Rondo passing to him.

Yeah, I think it was Nate's shooting.  There were so many times he could have put the game away, and he misses.

JO looked like he borrowed Perk's hands.

I dont blame JO for anything...yet it was he first game back from long lay off I expect mega rust.

How Nate got up so many poor shots when we have one of the best shooters in NBA history on our team is beyond me.

Maybe just maybe because Reddick was sticking to Ray like glue even through screens, and didn't allow Ray an inch of breathin room??

Nope...sometimes down the court, yes every time down...no.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I wouldn't bank on JO is just insurance with how old, injury prone, and quick to foul out Shaq is. He will be needed to be counted on even with Perk. Yeah he played awful but let's give him at least a month or so to get his cardio and timing back.

Not wanting it to happen, but it's better than 50/50 he's back on the injured list by 1/30/11

we will see how many people still hate JO when he ends up being our only healthy big man for some period during the playoffs. Shaq is old and injury prone, and Perk is not going to be anywhere near 100% until next season (or the season after if there is a lockout), for example, see KG last year. Semih also needs shoulder surgery and has been playing with a injured thumb on his shooting hand. Give JO 5-6 games before you begin to judge him.

I agree that Shaq is injury prone, he's the oldest and one of the oldest the past few seasons... however, find me a time when he was injured during the playoffs where he couldn't give any useful minutes.

[j804]

JO sulking and still complaining about his knee, everytime he plays terribly this is probably what he's going to fall back on, sound like last year? Also Doc says he would have played Erden over JO if the Magic game were a playoff one.

“It is what it is,” O’Neal said of his troublesome left knee. “It’s not going to get much better. You just keep treating it and keep trying to hope that it stays well.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view/20101228shaqs_fine_with_a_35k_hit/

[Snakehead]

Nate's 2-15 Nate was a much bigger culprit than Jermaine O'Neal. Especially given that Nate's been starting for over a week now and was missing wide open shots (for the most part).

I just can't get on O'Neal for having a tough game offensively on his first game back, and without Rondo passing to him.

Yeah, I think it was Nate's shooting.  There were so many times he could have put the game away, and he misses.

JO looked like he borrowed Perk's hands.

I dont blame JO for anything...yet it was he first game back from long lay off I expect mega rust.

How Nate got up so many poor shots when we have one of the best shooters in NBA history on our team is beyond me.

Maybe just maybe because Reddick was sticking to Ray like glue even through screens, and didn't allow Ray an inch of breathin room??

Nope...sometimes down the court, yes every time down...no.

Thank you. 

People love blowing Reddick up for some reason.  He is a good shooter and solid defender but not that great of a player, and he is a rotation guy and not a starting level player. 

It's funny because Mike Tirico loves him and literally every time, for the past few seasons, Reddick does anything he will bring up that everyone thought he was going to be a bust and how he has turned out to be a pretty good player.  Really Mike?  Everyone knows this now, it's been a couple seasons.  He will even bring it up twice in the span of a game like he did Christmas day.  And he said at one point that he was a "very good player" and then all the sudden he realized "oh yeah... a very good player is like Pierce or Garnett" and he backtracked to the rightful "solid" or something similar.  I had to laugh.

You don't hear people gushing about say Anthony Morrow like they do Reddick.  I don't know what it is, maybe just his college career or people thought he would be a bust or just because he is white, I don't know.  Probably a combination of the three but seriously, don't act like he is that great of a talent.  He isn't shutting down Ray, that's a joke.

[Chris]

Thank you. 

People love blowing Reddick up for some reason.  He is a good shooter and solid defender but not that great of a player, and he is a rotation guy and not a starting level player. 

Yeah, its funny how these things always go overboard.  Whether it is positive or negative, once someone does something different than the expectations were, suddenly it goes to the extremes.

It is like how Scal came in, and didn't live up to his contract, and suddenly, he was seen as not being an NBA player, despite the fact that he was still a very useful part of a championship team. 

Redick came into the league with most people expecting him to fail.  Everyone thought he wouldn't be able to defend anyone, and he would be nothing but a 3 point specialist.  He has turned into a decent role player, who can defend certain matchups, and can get hot and kill teams with his shooting for stretches.  He has turned into a legitimate rotation player...and suddenly people are talking like he is going to be a starter, and just needs the minutes to break out.

This is how it works with role players.  They need to be in the right situation, but when used correctly, they look great.  When used in the wrong situation, they look horrible.  But instead of taking that for what it is, everyone wants to turn it into something more.

[Sizzlack]

This is how it works with role players.  They need to be in the right situation, but when used correctly, they look great.  When used in the wrong situation, they look horrible.  But instead of taking that for what it is, everyone wants to turn it into something more.

199% Agree.

Case in point: Tony Allen.

Right system, looks great. Wrong system, he sucks.

[Celtics4ever]

I think JJ would be an upgrade to Delonte who has started.