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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #375 on: November 03, 2019, 09:19:55 PM »

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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #376 on: November 03, 2019, 09:30:32 PM »

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Are the Rockets going to blow it up? Down 30 to Miami in the first half...

Obviously it's really early into the season, but I feel as though their roster is definitely missing things.

Seeing as how the Rockets sent the Thunder two 1sts and two pick swaps (including one in 2021), I doubt they blow it up anytime soon. Those picks are way down the road ('24 and '26) - and only top 4 protected) so this was an all-in experiment. They have no choice but to give this a couple of years at least.

I guess they could always move Harden (they are stuck with Westbrook) for a star at another position, but that sounds a bit crazy to think about at this moment.
Ha, yeah, it was a little tongue-in-cheek. I don't know what they could do.

Will be interested in seeing if they try to keep Capela though.
Keep Capela?  He's under contract for 4 years.  Who are they going to trade him for that would give them a better shot at a championship?
Yeah, but his minutes are considerably lower than last year (and it's not like he's fouling excessively) - to the point where he hasn't even hit his MPG average of 2018-19 once this season. Seems like a bit of a [dang]ing statement regarding D'Antoni's trust in him.

I can't say what would be better, but seeming that they're about to be a .500 having lost to Brooklyn, Miami and Milwaukee, and with all their wins being less than 5 points (including conceding 158 to Washington in a 1 point win, and beating the lowly Pelicans), I can't say that they actually have any shot at a championship as it stands.
Their shot at a championship is poor health with the LA teams.  They also need to be on the opposite side of the bracket from them. 

D'Antoni is on the last year of his contract.  They got rid of several of his assistants after last season.  I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone before the end of the season. 
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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #377 on: November 03, 2019, 09:37:17 PM »

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Are the Rockets going to blow it up? Down 30 to Miami in the first half...

Obviously it's really early into the season, but I feel as though their roster is definitely missing things.

Seeing as how the Rockets sent the Thunder two 1sts and two pick swaps (including one in 2021), I doubt they blow it up anytime soon. Those picks are way down the road ('24 and '26) - and only top 4 protected) so this was an all-in experiment. They have no choice but to give this a couple of years at least.

I guess they could always move Harden (they are stuck with Westbrook) for a star at another position, but that sounds a bit crazy to think about at this moment.
Ha, yeah, it was a little tongue-in-cheek. I don't know what they could do.

Will be interested in seeing if they try to keep Capela though.
Keep Capela?  He's under contract for 4 years.  Who are they going to trade him for that would give them a better shot at a championship?
Yeah, but his minutes are considerably lower than last year (and it's not like he's fouling excessively) - to the point where he hasn't even hit his MPG average of 2018-19 once this season. Seems like a bit of a [dang]ing statement regarding D'Antoni's trust in him.

I can't say what would be better, but seeming that they're about to be a .500 having lost to Brooklyn, Miami and Milwaukee, and with all their wins being less than 5 points (including conceding 158 to Washington in a 1 point win, and beating the lowly Pelicans), I can't say that they actually have any shot at a championship as it stands.
Their shot at a championship is poor health with the LA teams.  They also need to be on the opposite side of the bracket from them.
I think they'd be serviced by more depth, and a worse but similar guy to Capela. Someone who is purely a defensive rim-running big, like a McGee or Mitchell Robinson type (not guys I think are targets, but rather guys I think would be good for Houston). Their wing depth is pretty abysmal, seeing guys like McLemore, House and 35 year old Thabo getting key minutes.
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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #378 on: November 03, 2019, 10:16:32 PM »

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Are the Rockets going to blow it up? Down 30 to Miami in the first half...

Obviously it's really early into the season, but I feel as though their roster is definitely missing things.

Seeing as how the Rockets sent the Thunder two 1sts and two pick swaps (including one in 2021), I doubt they blow it up anytime soon. Those picks are way down the road ('24 and '26) - and only top 4 protected) so this was an all-in experiment. They have no choice but to give this a couple of years at least.

I guess they could always move Harden (they are stuck with Westbrook) for a star at another position, but that sounds a bit crazy to think about at this moment.
Ha, yeah, it was a little tongue-in-cheek. I don't know what they could do.

Will be interested in seeing if they try to keep Capela though.
Keep Capela?  He's under contract for 4 years.  Who are they going to trade him for that would give them a better shot at a championship?
Yeah, but his minutes are considerably lower than last year (and it's not like he's fouling excessively) - to the point where he hasn't even hit his MPG average of 2018-19 once this season. Seems like a bit of a [dang]ing statement regarding D'Antoni's trust in him.

I can't say what would be better, but seeming that they're about to be a .500 having lost to Brooklyn, Miami and Milwaukee, and with all their wins being less than 5 points (including conceding 158 to Washington in a 1 point win, and beating the lowly Pelicans), I can't say that they actually have any shot at a championship as it stands.
Their shot at a championship is poor health with the LA teams.  They also need to be on the opposite side of the bracket from them.
I think they'd be serviced by more depth, and a worse but similar guy to Capela. Someone who is purely a defensive rim-running big, like a McGee or Mitchell Robinson type (not guys I think are targets, but rather guys I think would be good for Houston). Their wing depth is pretty abysmal, seeing guys like McLemore, House and 35 year old Thabo getting key minutes.
There really aren't many rim runners that I think would make trading Capela for worthwhile, the closest thing I could think of is to trade him, Ben McLemore and salary filler to Sacramento for Dedmon and Ariza. I do think that they'll be fine after a few more games though.
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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #379 on: November 03, 2019, 10:25:59 PM »

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Are the Rockets going to blow it up? Down 30 to Miami in the first half...

Obviously it's really early into the season, but I feel as though their roster is definitely missing things.

Seeing as how the Rockets sent the Thunder two 1sts and two pick swaps (including one in 2021), I doubt they blow it up anytime soon. Those picks are way down the road ('24 and '26) - and only top 4 protected) so this was an all-in experiment. They have no choice but to give this a couple of years at least.

I guess they could always move Harden (they are stuck with Westbrook) for a star at another position, but that sounds a bit crazy to think about at this moment.
Ha, yeah, it was a little tongue-in-cheek. I don't know what they could do.

Will be interested in seeing if they try to keep Capela though.
Keep Capela?  He's under contract for 4 years.  Who are they going to trade him for that would give them a better shot at a championship?
Yeah, but his minutes are considerably lower than last year (and it's not like he's fouling excessively) - to the point where he hasn't even hit his MPG average of 2018-19 once this season. Seems like a bit of a [dang]ing statement regarding D'Antoni's trust in him.

I can't say what would be better, but seeming that they're about to be a .500 having lost to Brooklyn, Miami and Milwaukee, and with all their wins being less than 5 points (including conceding 158 to Washington in a 1 point win, and beating the lowly Pelicans), I can't say that they actually have any shot at a championship as it stands.
Their shot at a championship is poor health with the LA teams.  They also need to be on the opposite side of the bracket from them.
I think they'd be serviced by more depth, and a worse but similar guy to Capela. Someone who is purely a defensive rim-running big, like a McGee or Mitchell Robinson type (not guys I think are targets, but rather guys I think would be good for Houston). Their wing depth is pretty abysmal, seeing guys like McLemore, House and 35 year old Thabo getting key minutes.
There really aren't many rim runners that I think would make trading Capela for worthwhile, the closest thing I could think of is to trade him, Ben McLemore and salary filler to Sacramento for Dedmon and Ariza. I do think that they'll be fine after a few more games though.
I don't think the Kings would want Capela and they definitely don't want McLemore back. 

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #380 on: November 03, 2019, 10:30:17 PM »

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It is a breath of fresh air not to have GSW's dominance hanging over a season.  Only think 4 teams have a serious shot at the championship but several more could given the right circumstances.  Might see more trades in season. 

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #381 on: November 03, 2019, 10:37:55 PM »

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Are the Rockets going to blow it up? Down 30 to Miami in the first half...

Obviously it's really early into the season, but I feel as though their roster is definitely missing things.

Seeing as how the Rockets sent the Thunder two 1sts and two pick swaps (including one in 2021), I doubt they blow it up anytime soon. Those picks are way down the road ('24 and '26) - and only top 4 protected) so this was an all-in experiment. They have no choice but to give this a couple of years at least.

I guess they could always move Harden (they are stuck with Westbrook) for a star at another position, but that sounds a bit crazy to think about at this moment.
Ha, yeah, it was a little tongue-in-cheek. I don't know what they could do.

Will be interested in seeing if they try to keep Capela though.
Keep Capela?  He's under contract for 4 years.  Who are they going to trade him for that would give them a better shot at a championship?
Yeah, but his minutes are considerably lower than last year (and it's not like he's fouling excessively) - to the point where he hasn't even hit his MPG average of 2018-19 once this season. Seems like a bit of a [dang]ing statement regarding D'Antoni's trust in him.

I can't say what would be better, but seeming that they're about to be a .500 having lost to Brooklyn, Miami and Milwaukee, and with all their wins being less than 5 points (including conceding 158 to Washington in a 1 point win, and beating the lowly Pelicans), I can't say that they actually have any shot at a championship as it stands.
Their shot at a championship is poor health with the LA teams.  They also need to be on the opposite side of the bracket from them.
I think they'd be serviced by more depth, and a worse but similar guy to Capela. Someone who is purely a defensive rim-running big, like a McGee or Mitchell Robinson type (not guys I think are targets, but rather guys I think would be good for Houston). Their wing depth is pretty abysmal, seeing guys like McLemore, House and 35 year old Thabo getting key minutes.
There really aren't many rim runners that I think would make trading Capela for worthwhile, the closest thing I could think of is to trade him, Ben McLemore and salary filler to Sacramento for Dedmon and Ariza. I do think that they'll be fine after a few more games though.
I don't think the Kings would want Capela and they definitely don't want McLemore back.
Yeah I don't think that the Kings want a trade like this, but the Rockets really don't have a lot of options.
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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #382 on: November 03, 2019, 10:47:36 PM »

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Are the Rockets going to blow it up? Down 30 to Miami in the first half...

Obviously it's really early into the season, but I feel as though their roster is definitely missing things.

Seeing as how the Rockets sent the Thunder two 1sts and two pick swaps (including one in 2021), I doubt they blow it up anytime soon. Those picks are way down the road ('24 and '26) - and only top 4 protected) so this was an all-in experiment. They have no choice but to give this a couple of years at least.

I guess they could always move Harden (they are stuck with Westbrook) for a star at another position, but that sounds a bit crazy to think about at this moment.
Ha, yeah, it was a little tongue-in-cheek. I don't know what they could do.

Will be interested in seeing if they try to keep Capela though.
Keep Capela?  He's under contract for 4 years.  Who are they going to trade him for that would give them a better shot at a championship?
Yeah, but his minutes are considerably lower than last year (and it's not like he's fouling excessively) - to the point where he hasn't even hit his MPG average of 2018-19 once this season. Seems like a bit of a [dang]ing statement regarding D'Antoni's trust in him.

I can't say what would be better, but seeming that they're about to be a .500 having lost to Brooklyn, Miami and Milwaukee, and with all their wins being less than 5 points (including conceding 158 to Washington in a 1 point win, and beating the lowly Pelicans), I can't say that they actually have any shot at a championship as it stands.
Their shot at a championship is poor health with the LA teams.  They also need to be on the opposite side of the bracket from them.
I think they'd be serviced by more depth, and a worse but similar guy to Capela. Someone who is purely a defensive rim-running big, like a McGee or Mitchell Robinson type (not guys I think are targets, but rather guys I think would be good for Houston). Their wing depth is pretty abysmal, seeing guys like McLemore, House and 35 year old Thabo getting key minutes.
There really aren't many rim runners that I think would make trading Capela for worthwhile, the closest thing I could think of is to trade him, Ben McLemore and salary filler to Sacramento for Dedmon and Ariza. I do think that they'll be fine after a few more games though.
I don't think the Kings would want Capela and they definitely don't want McLemore back.
Yeah I don't think that the Kings want a trade like this, but the Rockets really don't have a lot of options.
They don't and it is only going to get worse for them.

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #383 on: November 04, 2019, 08:17:31 PM »

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BKN vs NOP looks like a street game. Both teams looks messy and unorganized.

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #384 on: November 04, 2019, 08:27:21 PM »

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Can't believe they just called that a flagrant foul in Ingram. Jeez
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« Reply #385 on: November 04, 2019, 10:07:58 PM »

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BKN vs NOP looks like a street game. Both teams looks messy and unorganized.

I don't think KD coming back will instantly erase those flaws. They could be OKC 2.0 or even worse.

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #386 on: November 04, 2019, 10:25:07 PM »

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How about Isaiah Thomas with his first start of the year for the Wiz!

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #387 on: November 04, 2019, 10:46:43 PM »

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These refs are a joke. You get a whistle for boxing out now. lol

Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #388 on: November 04, 2019, 11:05:52 PM »

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Suns looking like they might be the team to hand Philly their 1st loss of the season.  Never would have believed that 2 weeks ago.

Also watching Horford and Baynes go at it right now is like watching this:



Just weird.
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Re: NBA 2019-2020 season thread
« Reply #389 on: November 04, 2019, 11:16:25 PM »

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Suns looking like they might be the team to hand Philly there 1st loss of the season.  Never would have believed that 2 weeks ago.

Also watching Horford and Baynes go at it right now is like watching this:



Just weird.
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