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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: LarBrd33 on June 04, 2018, 01:20:06 PM
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First, the idea that there is bad blood between Kyrie and LeBron isn't factual. I've done a ton of research on it. It's just a lazy narrative the media spun to hype the season.
I might do a video where I deep dive into this, but the real reason, in short, is that there were strong indicators coming out of LeBron's camp that he was bailing after this season. There was also major dysfunction throughout the organization. Bron apparently had a terrible relationship with ownership. Their GM and owner didn't get along. Meanwhile the team was shopping Kyrie (something LeBron wasn't supportive of) trying to find any method to get Bron to commit long term. Ugly situation. It wasn't about Kyrie wanting to be "the man" on his "own team", it was about getting the heck out of Cleveland before he was stuck there after LeBron left. Asking out when he did allowed him to be portrayed as a bold and confident anti-durant who picked the harder path. Had he waited until after LeBron left, he'd be seen as a coward and quitter. Smart business move all-around.
Everything I've seen and heard from those two suggests to me there is a ton of mutual respect and love between the two. All you had to do is watch them on the bench during the all-star game to see those two are close. Does this look like bad blood to you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0DlEHGABFI
It's HIGHLY UNLIKELY if not utterly impossible, but not unthinkable that Bron would join Kyrie in Boston.
A simple idea would be imagining a sign-and-trade where we ship out Hayward's 30 mil or Horford's 30 mil. That's brutal to imagine (especially Hayward), but Danny is a brutal GM.
Really can't imagine Hayward being the one to go, but you can't totally rule out Horford given the age. You'd be swapping out one old guy for another. You could say, "no way Cavs would want Horford if they are rebuilding" and perhaps you're right. But honestly, if Boston REAAALLLY wanted to free up the necessary cap space, they could just salary dump Horford on a team like Indiana (they have 30+ mil free) and take back nothing. Worst-case you also give up a pick. Horford is only signed through next season with a player option for 1 more after that.
Then, if you let Marcus Smart walk - suddenly Boston only has about 72 million on the books. With the cap set around 102 mil, Boston would now be in position to just offer Bron close to max money.
Crazy, I know.
Especially crazy because then who the heck plays center? You'd have Kyrie, Brown, Hayward, Tatum and LeBron. That's a weird line-up.
So just tack on the ridiculous (probably smokescreen) rumor we want to trade up for Mo Bamba. Worst-case Boston moves Brown for Bamba. Suddenly you have Kyrie, Hayward, Tatum, LeBron, Bamba.
So yeah, it's insane, but not THAT insane. You never know with Ainge.
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Trading Hayward or Horford (our first few marquee FA signings in franchise history) is a really bad look for the organization and would probably keep future FA's from signing here. Especially after Hayward went through his injury/rehab all year. I'll pass if that's what it takes.
Trading Isaiah Thomas looked cold-blooded, but we had traded for him so it wasn't *as* bad.
I will say this. I hope Ainge speaks with Irving about the long-term picture and if he is willing to sign an extension this summer or next for sure. The worst possible thing would be for us to have traded for Irving and he just bolts two years later.
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It would be insane to not go after him.
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Yeah...not gonna happen. The C's are not trading Hayward to fit in Lebron somehow. I don't even think LeBron likes Boston. Houston is my bet. They can create cap space and add him to Harden/Paul.
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tell Lebron he makes enough in endorsements so he can "afford" to sign for the MLE or better yet, vet min so that we can resign Baynes with the MLE.
that'll never happen but about as likely as any other chance Lebron comes to Boston
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It's never insane to want LeBron on your team.
That said, I'd rather watch the Celtics beat LeBron than watch the Celtics win with LeBron.
I'm going to keep saying this:
Kyrie, Jaylen, Hayward, Tatum, Horford
That's all I want for next year. Give me those 5 guys healthy and ready to go.
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It's insane. I'll take the 28 year old Gordon Hayward rather than the 33 year LBJ (and aging...yeah sure he is showing no signs of it playing 48 min a night but it will eventually play its toll).
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Yeah...not gonna happen. The C's are not trading Hayward to fit in Lebron somehow. I don't even think LeBron likes Boston. Houston is my bet. They can create cap space and add him to Harden/Paul.
They're probably not going to be able to retain capella in order to resign cp3 so how exactly would they create cap space to then sign lebron? Who's willing to take on that Anderson contract at 20 mil? Even then they wont have enough space to sign lebron
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I think you'd be crazy not to do this if you could.
It's a bad look, I know. You don't trade marquee free agents, and frankly, the guy to go would be Hayward, not Horford.
That said, it's hard to feel too sorry for a guy that's making $30M per year, and Ainge is not one to feel sorry. It might deter future star FA's, but why would we need to sign future FA's when we have Lebron?
The fact is that Lebron is still the best player in the world, and if you can get him, you DO.
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If I'm being honest, I would package Hayward+our Celtics pick, and Rozier and Morris for LeBron.
You would have to be foolish not to do so. I love Hayward, but getting LeBron? Kyrie and LeBron can fit together, and honestly if there is anyone in the world right now that LeBron would listen to, it's Kyrie, Horford, Stevens, and Ainge & Co.
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It's not insane, but it is utterly gross.
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Brian Scalabrine was on First Things First today during the segment where they were discussing Lebron's next (best) destination.
Scalabrine said Houston, and Philly is the 2nd choice (IF he doesn't stay in CLE of course)
He thinks Lebron in Houston beats Golden State, but he's not convinced Lebron in PHI beats Golden State unless they somehow bring back all their legit perimeter shooters like Reddick, Belinelli, Illyasova, etc. with exceptions (although they could still make it out of the East). Also for the same reason there's risk in Houston with CP3's injury history, there's also legit risk with Embiid and Fultz going forward too in that regard.
Nick and Jenna brought up Antoine saying Lebron should go to Boston, and Scalabrine laughed but acknowledged it as a possibility. Very unlikely but he did think Lebron would fit in Boston and would definitely win titles with them. He doesn't think Danny is *that* cold-blooded though where he'd trade Irving in a deal to get him, and of course the C's have no cap room so that's a big problem anyways.
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If I could remove fandom from the equation, I'd go after him in a heartbeat, no questions asked.
However, I can't.
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I think you'd be crazy not to do this if you could.
It's a bad look, I know. You don't trade marquee free agents, and frankly, the guy to go would be Hayward, not Horford.
That said, it's hard to feel too sorry for a guy that's making $30M per year, and Ainge is not one to feel sorry. It might deter future star FA's, but why would we need to sign future FA's when we have Lebron?
The fact is that Lebron is still the best player in the world, and if you can get him, you DO.
Given that Kyrie was desperate to escape Cleveland, how do you think you’re going to keep him in Boston? I think you need to keep Hayward and send out Kyrie – which is cold on so many levels.
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Brian Scalabrine was on First Things First today during the segment where they were discussing Lebron's next (best) destination.
Scalabrine said Houston, and Philly is the 2nd choice (IF he doesn't stay in CLE of course)
He thinks Lebron in Houston beats Golden State, but he's not convinced Lebron in PHI beats Golden State unless they somehow bring back all their legit perimeter shooters like Reddick, Belinelli, Illyasova, etc. with exceptions (although they could still make it out of the East). Also for the same reason there's risk in Houston with CP3's injury history, there's also legit risk with Embiid and Fultz going forward too in that regard.
Nick and Jenna brought up Antoine saying Lebron should go to Boston, and Scalabrine laughed but acknowledged it as a possibility. Very unlikely but he did think Lebron would fit in Boston and would definitely win titles with them. He doesn't think Danny is *that* cold-blooded though where he'd trade Irving in a deal to get him, and of course the C's have no cap room so that's a big problem anyways.
Thing is why is Kyrie leaving in every trade scenario? Doesn't it make sense to trade Hayward, when our two best prospects are wings?
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The odds in Stevens signing off on trading Hayward are as good as Hillary running again for president and winning- Zip! 😁
Horford possibly but why would Cavs do that unless flipping him for picks. They would want Brown or Tatum with salary-
Kyrie and Lebron together in Boston with our youth would be crazy! I might be upset for all of five seconds 😁
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anything is possible
I might win the lotto too
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The odds in Stevens signing off on trading Hayward are as good as Hillary running again for president and winning- Zip! 😁
Horford possibly but why would Cavs do that unless flipping him for picks. They would want Brown or Tatum with salary-
Kyrie and Lebron together in Boston with our youth would be crazy! I might be upset for all of five seconds 😁
At the end of the day, it's all about championships. LeBron and Kyrie can co-exist... We've seen that happen in 2016... Imagine Tatum/Brown and Horford? Holy moly.
Kyrie
Brown
Tatum
LeBron
Horford
Smart as our Iggy/sixth man.
One can dream.
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It IS THAT insane
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First of all, Danny Ainge isn't brutal, not even cold blooded, he traded IT to the team in the Final, it's IT himself messed it up by not having surgery plus bad attitude with Cavs, and still he can go to whatever team he wants after this. as for the MAX? he simply doesn't worth it.
oh and danny doesn't kill his sister nor do him force IT to play, the only thing will be the misdiagnose but that's not on Danny nor should he give IT the max because of it.
Danny is just being smart and decisive, that's all.
Second, Lebron can sign with MLE. so he can pass MJ in rings to fulfill his dream, that alone is worth more than a max contract whether it's financial or legacy stand point.
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The odds in Stevens signing off on trading Hayward are as good as Hillary running again for president and winning- Zip! 😁
Horford possibly but why would Cavs do that unless flipping him for picks. They would want Brown or Tatum with salary-
Kyrie and Lebron together in Boston with our youth would be crazy! I might be upset for all of five seconds 😁
Cavs are not in a position to ask for anything. LeBron is an unrestricted free agent. He can (and probably will) leave them with absolutely nothing this Summer.
My idea was about salary dumping Horford (if you get can back assets, that's ideal) and just signing LeBron outright as a free agent.
When realizing they are on the verge of losing LeBron for nothing, they'd probably opt for a sign-and-trade where they get back something of value. Sure as hell will not be Jaylen Brown or anything.
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First, the idea that there is bad blood between Kyrie and LeBron isn't factual. I've done a ton of research on it. It's just a lazy narrative the media spun to hype the season.
I might do a video where I deep dive into this, but the real reason, in short, is that there were strong indicators coming out of LeBron's camp that he was bailing after this season. There was also major dysfunction throughout the organization. Bron apparently had a terrible relationship with ownership. Their GM and owner didn't get along. Meanwhile the team was shopping Kyrie (something LeBron wasn't supportive of) trying to find any method to get Bron to commit long term. Ugly situation. It wasn't about Kyrie wanting to be "the man" on his "own team", it was about getting the heck out of Cleveland before he was stuck there after LeBron left. Asking out when he did allowed him to be portrayed as a bold and confident anti-durant who picked the harder path. Had he waited until after LeBron left, he'd be seen as a coward and quitter. Smart business move all-around.
Everything I've seen and heard from those two suggests to me there is a ton of mutual respect and love between the two. All you had to do is watch them on the bench during the all-star game to see those two are close. Does this look like bad blood to you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0DlEHGABFI
It's HIGHLY UNLIKELY if not utterly impossible, but not unthinkable that Bron would join Kyrie in Boston.
A simple idea would be imagining a sign-and-trade where we ship out Hayward's 30 mil or Horford's 30 mil. That's brutal to imagine (especially Hayward), but Danny is a brutal GM.
Really can't imagine Hayward being the one to go, but you can't totally rule out Horford given the age. You'd be swapping out one old guy for another. You could say, "no way Cavs would want Horford if they are rebuilding" and perhaps you're right. But honestly, if Boston REAAALLLY wanted to free up the necessary cap space, they could just salary dump Horford on a team like Indiana (they have 30+ mil free) and take back nothing. Worst-case you also give up a pick. Horford is only signed through next season with a player option for 1 more after that.
Then, if you let Marcus Smart walk - suddenly Boston only has about 72 million on the books. With the cap set around 102 mil, Boston would now be in position to just offer Bron close to max money.
Crazy, I know.
Especially crazy because then who the heck plays center? You'd have Kyrie, Brown, Hayward, Tatum and LeBron. That's a weird line-up.
So just tack on the ridiculous (probably smokescreen) rumor we want to trade up for Mo Bamba. Worst-case Boston moves Brown for Bamba. Suddenly you have Kyrie, Hayward, Tatum, LeBron, Bamba.
So yeah, it's insane, but not THAT insane. You never know with Ainge.
(https://mz10dr.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/2604c8c350d537bb08322a3ea7a94a0fcf8606b56e39ba1f62301224aa417e84.jpg)
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The odds in Stevens signing off on trading Hayward are as good as Hillary running again for president and winning- Zip! 😁
Horford possibly but why would Cavs do that unless flipping him for picks. They would want Brown or Tatum with salary-
Kyrie and Lebron together in Boston with our youth would be crazy! I might be upset for all of five seconds 😁
Cavs are not in a position to ask for anything. LeBron is an unrestricted free agent. He can (and probably will) leave them with absolutely nothing this Summer.
My idea was about salary dumping Horford (if you get can back assets, that's ideal) and just signing LeBron outright as a free agent.
When realizing they are on the verge of losing LeBron for nothing, they'd probably opt for a sign-and-trade where they get back something of value. Sure as hell will not be Jaylen Brown or anything.
Cavs are over the cap and therefore cannot sign and trade unless they get rid of Love or George Hill with LeBron.
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LarBrd once again making me feel conflicted
On the one hand, it’s LeBron and he smells, but on the other, he’s the best basketballer in the world and turns us into title favourites
I’m on board
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I give it a 1% chance and I feel I am being pretty generous.
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I'm not advocating we bring Lebron in, but I was just thinking about the potential lineup and roster if they did find a way to land him.
PG: Kyrie/Rozier/Larkin
SG: Jaylen/J. Bird(?)
SF: Lebron/Tatum/Ojeyele
PF: Hayward/Theis
C: Horford/Baynes
Might need to find some way to bring in another backup SG, and I'm assuming we'd bring back Baynes with non-taxpayer raise and Larkin with the minimum. But that team is unstoppable. I'm even willing to say we beat Golden State in 5 with that team (assuming we're healthy of course).
Another ? mark would be, would Lebron fit in to the whole "team basketball" mantra the C's preach and make a few sacrifices along the way. If so, that's a fantastic team. If not (he stays extremely ball dominant), then we could still win but also have many hiccups along the way.
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I don't know whats more insane, bring up a chane that Lebron would come to Boston or bringing up "salary dumping Horford" as a possibility.
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he has a no trade gig .
He will set up his OWN destiny , Cavs will have little to no say in what happens ...until James tells them they DO have a say ...
Problem with James is his one year contracts
He needs t sign with Team , GM , coach and program , buy in and act like he wants to be part f something .
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I guess I'm insane. I want to beat Lebron, not see him bring his ring-chasing talents to Boston. Especially not at the cost of one of our core players.
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I guess I'm insane. I want to beat Lebron, not see him bring his ring-chasing talents to Boston. Especially not at the cost of one of our core players.
Yeah, I totally understand not ruining a good thing, but in the end, you play for championships. With GSW showing no signs of slowing down, it is still going to be an uphill battle moving forward.
If signing or trading for Lebron would *guarantee* a championship, then you do it - even at the cost of a core player (I prefer to trade someone like Horford rather than Tatum, obviously). You should consider yourself lucky if your team wins a championship more often than once every 30 years. As much as I hate Lebron, I hate the idea of the Lakers eventually overtaking us for titles more.
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he has a no trade gig .
He will set up his OWN destiny , Cavs will have little to no say in what happens ...until James tells them they DO have a say ...
Problem with James is his one year contracts
He needs t sign with Team , GM , coach and program , buy in and act like he wants to be part f something .
Sure the Cavs have a say. Lebron may not be able to "set up his own destiny", at least not with a max contract, without CLE's help. An inability to do a sign and trade would eliminate a lot of teams that Lebron might want to go to, some of which can offer very little to CLE in return.
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I guess I'm insane. I want to beat Lebron, not see him bring his ring-chasing talents to Boston. Especially not at the cost of one of our core players.
Yeah, I totally understand not ruining a good thing, but in the end, you play for championships. With GSW showing no signs of slowing down, it is still going to be an uphill battle moving forward.
If signing or trading for Lebron would *guarantee* a championship, then you do it - even at the cost of a core player (I prefer to trade someone like Horford rather than Tatum, obviously). You should consider yourself lucky if your team wins a championship more often than once every 30 years. As much as I hate Lebron, I hate the idea of the Lakers eventually overtaking us for titles more.
There is no guarantee of a title with anyone.
Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't be that satisfied with a title if Lebron brought it. It would feel cheap. Not real.
GSW is slowing signs of slowing down. Something is off with them. They'll beat CLE, but as we saw in the EC playoffs, CLE isn't very good. If CP doesn't get hurt or HOU didn't go stone cold in game 7, GSW would already be out. They'd have lost game 1 if the Cavs didn't go brain dead the last 10 seconds. I don't know if it's injuries or locker room or what, but they're not the same team they were a year ago.
IMO, the league is about to open up and we're in a near-perfect position to battle for titles.
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say Lebron can retain all-star level until 41 if he signs MLE and take care his body
He can potential have 11 rings(more realistc, 8 ) at age of 41, that's MJ and Kobe combined, may even takeover Russell and be the player with most rings ever when he retire, and by then there will not even be a debate who is the goat.
think how that will have help his legacy and business
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Another trade Hayward/horford thread.
Please just everyone stop.
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say Lebron can retain all-star level until 41 if he signs MLE and take care his body
He can potential have 11 rings(more realistc, 8 ) at age of 41, that's MJ and Kobe combined, may even takeover Russell and be the player with most rings ever when he retire, and by then there will not even be a debate who is the goat.
think how that will have help his legacy and business
Lebron won't be all star level at age 41. This isn't golf.
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There's no fun in winning championship with the best in the world. I'd rather beat the best than join them. I don't mind having top 10 players as a supporting cast, but definitely not top 3.
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say Lebron can retain all-star level until 41 if he signs MLE and take care his body
Sure is playing at a great level now, but one can see that it is taking more effort.
Just out of curiousity, I did a news search in google and I saw two articles both written from guys with Boston ties, so I don't think it really outside the Boston area.
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There's no fun in winning championship with the best in the world. I'd rather beat the best than join them. I don't mind having top 10 players as a supporting cast, but definitely not top 3.
Hmmmm... Are you sure? Many if not most of the banners hanging in the garden were won with at least one top3 player
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It's a blog pipedream but makes for great discussion, no doubt.
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I proposed this idea 13 months ago.
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=91403.0
Boston always was his best endgame, but I don't want him here. It would diminish Danny's best rebuild ever and the players that are currently on the roster.
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There's no fun in winning championship with the best in the world. I'd rather beat the best than join them. I don't mind having top 10 players as a supporting cast, but definitely not top 3.
Hmmmm... Are you sure? Many if not most of the banners hanging in the garden were won with at least one top3 player
Yeah, but they are homegrown talent, not bought. Big difference.
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It's a blog pipedream but makes for great discussion, no doubt.
"dream"? I consider it a nightmare. I detest Lebron. I wouldn't want him anywhere near my team.
I wouldn't want Westbrook or Durant either.
Lebron's not a Celtic and never will be. It would feel like we rented a car for a few days.
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What if LeBron calls Kyrie personally, and asks about his time so far in Boston, especially dealing with ownership, Danny, and coach Stevens. Maybe Kyrie didn't necessarily have an issue with LeBron, but more so the relationship between LeBron and the power that came with "we'll do what ever you want LeBron" attitude that the Cleveland team gave him. After all, it was the Cleveland team that pushed Kyrie aside when the opportunity to sign LeBron was a reality.
What if LeBron just misses playing on a team with other good players and a stable organization, like his time in Miami. And explains to Kyrie that he understands that he (Kyrie) is the leader of the team, and is willing to sacrifice by taking the full MLE.
Obviously, the chances LeBron signing with Boston are slim to none, but it is a fun exercise. I feel that everyone just assumes that LeBron and Kyrie have no relationship anymore and thought that this could be a curious angle of how LeBron might end up in Boston.
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There's no fun in winning championship with the best in the world. I'd rather beat the best than join them. I don't mind having top 10 players as a supporting cast, but definitely not top 3.
Hmmmm... Are you sure? Many if not most of the banners hanging in the garden were won with at least one top3 player
Yeah, but they are homegrown talent, not bought. Big difference.
KG was arguably a top 3 player (he did finish 3rd in MVP his 1st year in Boston). I'm sure you enjoyed that title.
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There's no fun in winning championship with the best in the world. I'd rather beat the best than join them. I don't mind having top 10 players as a supporting cast, but definitely not top 3.
Hmmmm... Are you sure? Many if not most of the banners hanging in the garden were won with at least one top3 player
Yeah, but they are homegrown talent, not bought. Big difference.
Were you hoping that Durant didn't sign the Celtics, when they were making their free agent pitch? I don't know about you, but I certainly wanted Durant in Boston.
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There's no fun in winning championship with the best in the world. I'd rather beat the best than join them. I don't mind having top 10 players as a supporting cast, but definitely not top 3.
Hmmmm... Are you sure? Many if not most of the banners hanging in the garden were won with at least one top3 player
Yeah, but they are homegrown talent, not bought. Big difference.
actually there it is not different and that is not what you said .....
I don't mind having top 10 players as a supporting cast, but definitely not top 3
having != trading for
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If people think Houston is a possibility in a S&T... then why not San Antonio?
Leonard and Lebron being coached by Pop on the same team. GOOD LORD! :o
(I imagine in some S&T, Aldridge is in it with his salary)
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If people think Houston is a possibility in a S&T... then why not San Antonio?
Leonard and Lebron being coached by Pop on the same team. GOOD LORD! :o
(I imagine in some S&T, Aldridge is in it with his salary)
Why would cle want Aldridge? If LeBron wants to go they blow it up and try to get assets
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If people think Houston is a possibility in a S&T... then why not San Antonio?
Leonard and Lebron being coached by Pop on the same team. GOOD LORD! :o
(I imagine in some S&T, Aldridge is in it with his salary)
Why would cle want Aldridge? If LeBron wants to go they blow it up and try to get assets
Same logic as to why Cleveland would want Ryan Anderson and his contract.
In essence LAL and PHI "make most sense" simply because they can sign Lebron to a big deal outright (no big salary-dumps or S&T required).
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I just whish we continue with building our own dinasty. LeBronless!
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"dream"? I consider it a nightmare. I detest Lebron. I wouldn't want him anywhere near my team.
I wouldn't want Westbrook or Durant either.
Lebron's not a Celtic and never will be. It would feel like we rented a car for a few days.
I am with you 100% on this one, I just was saying pipedream because it is unrealistic. The thought of him wearing green makes me puke in my mouth.
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We have something , Bron has never had
A real Coach . He had Mike Brown ...IQ? And Baby sitters .....YES men. Gave him a good coach , but he tossed him out on his nose.
One of his big negitives is his attitude with Authority , respect for Coaches and the owners and GM.
Stop whining , get back down court and play ball
Its the coachs job to complain to the refs .
He needs to mentally grow up on court .
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The nice part about the "Lebron to the Celtics" idea is that we won't be disappointed like we were with Durant when it doesn't happen.
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All this crazy talk is making me go crazy. I was excited enough about next season without having to make any moves.
But what if DA was willing, because of the logjam which would be created by the addition of LBJ, to pull off a sign and trade with Cleveland like so:
Al Horford + Jaylen Brown
for
LBJ
Cleveland wouldn't be that non-competitive with a roster of Hill/Smith or Clarkson/Brown/Love/Horford or Hill/Brown/Hood/Love/Horford.
We could run with:
Irving
Hayward
Tatum
James
Baynes
Good God!
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There's no fun in winning championship with the best in the world. I'd rather beat the best than join them. I don't mind having top 10 players as a supporting cast, but definitely not top 3.
Hmmmm... Are you sure? Many if not most of the banners hanging in the garden were won with at least one top3 player
Yeah, but they are homegrown talent, not bought. Big difference.
actually there it is not different and that is not what you said .....
I don't mind having top 10 players as a supporting cast, but definitely not top 3
having != trading for
You missed out my context. I said top 10, not top 3. There are talent gap between them.
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The nice part about the "Lebron to the Celtics" idea is that we won't be disappointed like we were with Durant when it doesn't happen.
LOL. I am in stitches, laughing so hard it hurts! ;D
Too funny! But so true!
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We have something , Bron has never had
A real Coach . He had Mike Brown ...IQ? And Baby sitters .....YES men. Gave him a good coach , but he tossed him out on his nose.
One of his big negitives is his attitude with Authority , respect for Coaches and the owners and GM.
Stop whining , get back down court and play ball
Its the coachs job to complain to the refs .
He needs to mentally grow up on court .
Spo is a very good coach. He doesn't get the credit he deserves.
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All this crazy talk is making me go crazy. I was excited enough about next season without having to make any moves.
But what if DA was willing, because of the logjam which would be created by the addition of LBJ, to pull off a sign and trade with Cleveland like so:
Al Horford + Jaylen Brown
for
LBJ
Cleveland wouldn't be that non-competitive with a roster of Hill/Smith or Clarkson/Brown/Love/Horford or Hill/Brown/Hood/Love/Horford.
We could run with:
Irving
Hayward
Tatum
James
Baynes
Good God!
gonna go ahead and guess that you haven't seen the fact that kyrie and lebron absolutely hate each other... Right? Kyrie will not play with lebron hence why he got traded
Btw. That trade does not make us better. Baynes can't play starter minutes, Hayward is a better 3 than a 2 and Tatum is a better 4 than a 3
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We have something , Bron has never had
A real Coach . He had Mike Brown ...IQ? And Baby sitters .....YES men. Gave him a good coach , but he tossed him out on his nose.
One of his big negitives is his attitude with Authority , respect for Coaches and the owners and GM.
Stop whining , get back down court and play ball
Its the coachs job to complain to the refs .
He needs to mentally grow up on court .
Spo is a very good coach. He doesn't get the credit he deserves.
He really doesn't. He's had some really great seasons the last couple of years with MIA. They are a very tough team, play great defense, and share the ball. They seem to be in the stage where the C's were pre Horford: basically no real all stars so coaching and effort can only take you so far.
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We have something , Bron has never had
A real Coach . He had Mike Brown ...IQ? And Baby sitters .....YES men. Gave him a good coach , but he tossed him out on his nose.
One of his big negitives is his attitude with Authority , respect for Coaches and the owners and GM.
Stop whining , get back down court and play ball
Its the coachs job to complain to the refs .
He needs to mentally grow up on court .
Spo is a very good coach. He doesn't get the credit he deserves.
He really doesn't. He's had some really great seasons the last couple of years with MIA. They are a very tough team, play great defense, and share the ball. They seem to be in the stage where the C's were pre Horford: basically no real all stars so coaching and effort can only take you so far.
He was 2nd in COTY last year despite not making the playoffs and is pretty much unanimously rated as an upper tier coach.
He gets plenty of respect