Assuming no cap space, what big can trading Brown fetch us?

[jambr380]

As others have mentioned, salary matching would play a big part here. You could go for somebody like Sabonis, but his contract ends when Jaylen's does and I'm not sure his ceiling is as high as Jaylen's.

I don't see it likely, but there were a number of solid bigs in last year's draft (Ayton, Bagley, JJJ) that would have an additional 2 years left on their rookie contracts. I can't imagine any of them would be available for Jaylen straight up, but it's not like we are short on picks to offer.

There is always the nuclear option of Tatum/Smart/picks for Towns, but I don't think he is available.

More likely, we stick with our wing heavy line-up and see if Tatum/Brown can take off.

[Celts Fan 508]

Sabonis straight up would be interesting.  Value is close IMHO.

Danny wouldn’t trade Brown for Leonard, why would he trade him for Sabonis?  How is it fair value?  I don’t follow Indy much so I’m asking in all honesty.

[Fafnir]

Sabonis straight up would be interesting.  Value is close IMHO.

Danny wouldn’t trade Brown for Leonard, why would he trade him for Sabonis?  How is it fair value?  I don’t follow Indy much so I’m asking in all honesty.

The biggest difference is that Sabonis is under team control via RFA for another 3 years same as Jaylen.

I do not think that is a trade I would do however, I like Jaylen's talent too much and you need more than 2 wings.

[Fafnir]

No one good enough to justify trading him.

TP

My thoughts exactly. When you factor in the greater need for wings in the modern NBA and Jaylen's talent level I don't see a trade that makes sense.

Not unless Danny has already decided to not pay him, which would be a poor decision imo.

[tonydelk]

Why the hell are we trading Brown or Tatum.  You only move them for a superstar that is going to help win you a championship.  That ship has sailed and we are building around Brown.  People better get used to it.

[gpap]

Why the hell are we trading Brown or Tatum.  You only move them for a superstar that is going to help win you a championship.  That ship has sailed and we are building around Brown.  People better get used to it.

So who do you think the Celts can get in a trade for Brown?

[LilRip]

Why the hell are we trading Brown or Tatum.  You only move them for a superstar that is going to help win you a championship.  That ship has sailed and we are building around Brown.  People better get used to it.

Is this because...Brown can become that superstar that will help us win a championship?

Maybe I’m evaluating Brown wrongly but I think he ends up with at most, maybe a couple of all star appearances in his career as opposed to this nigh untradeable perennial all star who will help us bring home a championship. His trade value is as high as it’s ever going to be though, imo (especially on that rookie RFA contract). The longer you wait, the less “potential” he has left and the more expensive his contract is.

Tatum OTOH, I can see being a perennial all star. You hold on to Tatum.

[gpap]

I'm sorry but I'm just not as high on Brown as others on this site.

I think Tatum is far more talented, as is Hayward.

I know Brown had a good year, has improved his shooting and is good at attacking the basket, but I also don't see him as a player to build a team around. I'm also still wondering if he was the right choice to draft over Jamal Murray or Buddy Hield.

He's not a shooting guard. He's definitely a small forward but think he's 3rd best behind Tatum and Hayward.

I DO believe if Tatum has a better season and becomes more basketball intelligent, he can be a big star.

[slamtheking]

Why the hell are we trading Brown or Tatum.  You only move them for a superstar that is going to help win you a championship.  That ship has sailed and we are building around Brown.  People better get used to it.

Is this because...Brown can become that superstar that will help us win a championship?

Maybe I’m evaluating Brown wrongly but I think he ends up with at most, maybe a couple of all star appearances in his career as opposed to this nigh untradeable perennial all star who will help us bring home a championship. His trade value is as high as it’s ever going to be though, imo (especially on that rookie RFA contract). The longer you wait, the less “potential” he has left and the more expensive his contract is.

Tatum OTOH, I can see being a perennial all star. You hold on to Tatum.

Brown and Tatum both have a lot of potential.  Brown's shown more though in the sense he's more of a 2-way player than Tatum has shown.  that, and Brown turned it around as the season progressed, including the playoffs.  Tatum, not so much. 

Even if he gets 'just' 2 all-star appearances, in a league crowded with talented wings, that's impressive and 2 more all-star appearances than any big men you're trading him for.

[trickybilly]

Capela?

[Moranis]

Sabonis straight up would be interesting.  Value is close IMHO.

Danny wouldn’t trade Brown for Leonard, why would he trade him for Sabonis?  How is it fair value?  I don’t follow Indy much so I’m asking in all honesty.

The biggest difference is that Sabonis is under team control via RFA for another 3 years same as Jaylen.

I do not think that is a trade I would do however, I like Jaylen's talent too much and you need more than 2 wings.

Sabonis averaged 14/9/3 in just under 25 minutes a game while having a TS% of 63.  He has taken a big jump all 3 of his seasons and that includes improved defensive efficiency.  He is also a big guy which is far more a position of need. 

I'd do Brown for Sabonis straight up and wouldn't give it a second thought. 

[LilRip]

Sabonis straight up would be interesting.  Value is close IMHO.

Danny wouldn’t trade Brown for Leonard, why would he trade him for Sabonis?  How is it fair value?  I don’t follow Indy much so I’m asking in all honesty.

The biggest difference is that Sabonis is under team control via RFA for another 3 years same as Jaylen.

I do not think that is a trade I would do however, I like Jaylen's talent too much and you need more than 2 wings.

Sabonis averaged 14/9/3 in just under 25 minutes a game while having a TS% of 63.  He has taken a big jump all 3 of his seasons and that includes improved defensive efficiency.  He is also a big guy which is far more a position of need. 

I'd do Brown for Sabonis straight up and wouldn't give it a second thought.

^this

Or how about that kid from Atlanta?

[hwangjini_1]

Sabonis straight up would be interesting.  Value is close IMHO.

Danny wouldn’t trade Brown for Leonard, why would he trade him for Sabonis?  How is it fair value?  I don’t follow Indy much so I’m asking in all honesty.

The biggest difference is that Sabonis is under team control via RFA for another 3 years same as Jaylen.

I do not think that is a trade I would do however, I like Jaylen's talent too much and you need more than 2 wings.

Sabonis averaged 14/9/3 in just under 25 minutes a game while having a TS% of 63.  He has taken a big jump all 3 of his seasons and that includes improved defensive efficiency.  He is also a big guy which is far more a position of need. 

I'd do Brown for Sabonis straight up and wouldn't give it a second thought.

^this

Or how about that kid from Atlanta?

please, be more vague. i can almost guess whom you are talking about given the info above.

[Somebody]

I love Saboner, but I'd rather keep Brown due to his high ceiling at SG. His size advantage at the position will make him immensely valuable.

[hwangjini_1]

Sabonis straight up would be interesting.  Value is close IMHO.

Danny wouldn’t trade Brown for Leonard, why would he trade him for Sabonis?  How is it fair value?  I don’t follow Indy much so I’m asking in all honesty.

The biggest difference is that Sabonis is under team control via RFA for another 3 years same as Jaylen.

I do not think that is a trade I would do however, I like Jaylen's talent too much and you need more than 2 wings.

Sabonis averaged 14/9/3 in just under 25 minutes a game while having a TS% of 63.  He has taken a big jump all 3 of his seasons and that includes improved defensive efficiency.  He is also a big guy which is far more a position of need. 

I'd do Brown for Sabonis straight up and wouldn't give it a second thought.

best answer yet. if the celtics need to throw in a bit more (a just drafted kid or a draft choice) that is okay too.