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Re: Celtics (1-3) at Bucks (3-1) Round 2 Game 5 5/8/19
« Reply #705 on: May 09, 2019, 12:02:17 AM »

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Mr. Irving press

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nubQluPfZVQ

doesn't Irving sound enthusiastic to return next season?

some dumb team is going to sign him to max... goodluck with dealing with his baggage

It doesn't look good, does it?


Re: Celtics (1-3) at Bucks (3-1) Round 2 Game 5 5/8/19
« Reply #706 on: May 09, 2019, 12:03:49 AM »

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Terry Rozier: “it’s been a tough year. Especially for me. But it ain’t about me.”

God, Rozier is so dumb. Like, are you not listening to yourself here?

Nightmare scenario - Kyrie walks and we sign Rozier to a long-term contract.  :(

Basically, "Let me make it about me and then say it's not about me."

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Safe to say Terry Rozier is ready to get out of Boston. When asked about the #Celtics having the right to match any offer to him this summer, he said: "No comment."

People attacking Rozier in any way are crazy

why does he deserve that?



You must either not have eyes or missed a lot of the C's games this year. Dude was atrocious all year long.

I do have some sympathy or Rozier, same as Brown and too a lesser degree Tatum. Guys who showed as much as they did last year usually see a huge increase in minutes, shots, usage, ball handling, ect. Instead they had o become role players. Thats tuff. That said I think its time to move on from Rozier, I would have traded him last offseason.

I could buy that for Rozier and even Brown, but not Tatum.

Ya, thats why I have Tatum as too a lesser degree because his minutes, shots, and usage all went up and he handled the ball a lot. Really his role didn't change, like at all. He just shot worse from 3, and played worse defense. I don't think he regressed, but he didn't really get better at anything either.

Re: Celtics (1-3) at Bucks (3-1) Round 2 Game 5 5/8/19
« Reply #707 on: May 09, 2019, 12:04:40 AM »

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Mr. Irving press

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nubQluPfZVQ

doesn't Irving sound enthusiastic to return next season?

some dumb team is going to sign him to max... goodluck with dealing with his baggage

It doesn't look good, does it?

Its a good thing guys don't have to make their decisions right after being eliminated. I don't expect him to be happy and upbeat right now.

Re: Celtics (1-3) at Bucks (3-1) Round 2 Game 5 5/8/19
« Reply #708 on: May 09, 2019, 12:07:33 AM »

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Mr. Irving press

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nubQluPfZVQ

doesn't Irving sound enthusiastic to return next season?

some dumb team is going to sign him to max... goodluck with dealing with his baggage

It doesn't look good, does it?

Its a good thing guys don't have to make their decisions right after being eliminated. I don't expect him to be happy and upbeat right now.

True...I am sure this will feel raw for quite some time. Even as fans, it feels really raw. Just a heartbreaking end to a very frustrating season.

Re: Celtics (1-3) at Bucks (3-1) Round 2 Game 5 5/8/19
« Reply #709 on: May 09, 2019, 12:12:35 AM »

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Well, Horford sounds like he wants to come back, but I think his comment about the steps the team will make to improve is telling. Seems like everyone is expecting the big AD move this summer.

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« Reply #710 on: May 09, 2019, 12:13:24 AM »

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http://twitter.com/ChrisForsberg_/status/1126333440272551937

Well, Horford sounds like he wants to come back, but I think his comment about the steps the team will make to improve is telling. Seems like everyone is expecting the big AD move this summer.

Or any sort of movement, because the current construction of players didn't work.
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Re: Celtics (1-3) at Bucks (3-1) Round 2 Game 5 5/8/19
« Reply #711 on: May 09, 2019, 12:17:05 AM »

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http://twitter.com/ChrisForsberg_/status/1126333440272551937

Well, Horford sounds like he wants to come back, but I think his comment about the steps the team will make to improve is telling. Seems like everyone is expecting the big AD move this summer.

I think Smart, Hayward and Horford will be back next season. With everyone else, it will be very fluid.

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« Reply #712 on: May 09, 2019, 12:28:14 AM »

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Bud literally outcoached Steven's so badly, it's like he did it with his eyes closed.
More like the bucks are much better.  But okay.

Stevens roster management was exposed this year. These guys walked all over him.
Or they wer never that good and never fit properly.

They only didn't fit properly due to p--- poor talent management and coaching. The stylistic fit is there and capable of working; it's the personality and character fit that was suspect, which is something that can be managed by effective coaching and leadership. Brad Stevens single greatest mistake is not defining the roles early on, which has just allowed the chemistry issues to fester and exacerbate all season long.
Show me the complementary players that know their role.  Show me the specialist that can really really shoot.  The fit of these players is awful.

THEY DON'T KNOW THEIR ROLE BECAUSE THE COACH NEVER DEFINED THEM EARLY ON! That's the entire problem, and that's why you had the young/old dichotomy in the locker room early on.

The level of talent is absolutely there, and while not an absolutely perfect fit, their talents are complementary enough to work well together. The talent has just been completely mismanaged and in a p--- poor offensive philosophy, which has served as a barrier to these guys meshing.
Buddy, the coach doesn’t define their roles.  The players given their skillset do.  Great teams happen organically.

Lol that's why Giannis and the Bucks were so good last year with Kidd and Prundy. Just a coincidence that a coach of the year comes in and they maximize the talent they have and become the best team in the NBA.  ::)

To be fair, adding Lopez and a few other players certainly didn't hurt, but the biggest difference in that team is much better coaching and leadership and a much better offensive philosophy.
My point is simple; there was a Grand Canyon type gap between these two teams.  That’s no coaching.

As for kid, I’m not saying there aren’t some terrible coaches out there. Just that Brad isn’t one of them. And giannis was half the player he is now when Kidd was there.  He’s now among the best in the world.  So it’s certainly not coaching that’s making them great.

But my original point stands.  If the coach has to tell the players their role, we’re in trouble.

How does the coach not tell guys what's expected out of them? That's literally his job. He's there to put his guys in a position to succeed.  You think any good coach would have let his guys go down time aftef time and launch a 3 after 1 FREAKING PASS?

I do not get the love affair with this coach. We make the ECF despite having a few injuries and he's red reincarnate. Ever elimination game for the last 3 years has played out the same. They play poor defense and every single clown on this team thinks they're in the 3pt competition. Meanwhile our coach just stands there like a kid not wanting to eat his veggies. GOOD COACHES don't allow their team to play so unorganized.

It absolutely should not have taken until game 5 for this guy to get animated about giannis taking a world tour in the paint either.

He's not a good coach. Maybe a few more playoff exits will finally get people to figure this out.
But those are just words.  So what!  And you think he didn’t ever do that?  Are words going to help Tatum become a spot up shooter?  Not his game.  Are words going to turn jaylen into reddick type shooter?  No. 

You can have the best ingredients in the world but if they’re the wrong ones, it doesn’t matter.  I love peanut butter, steak, and mayo.  But I’m not going to put them together.

Like I said, the players

Words? How about scheme? How about preaching ball movement, moving without the ball and rotating on defense?

If the talent is not there than you must thing Danny should be fired no?
I mean, answer honestly.  Is kyrie a ball movement guy?  Not in his dna.  Is Tatum a ball movement guy?  Not in his dna.  Is brown a ball movement guy?  Nope.  Is Morris a ball movement guy?  Nope.  Is rozier a ball movement guy?  Laughable. 

Make sense?  It’s more about mixing the right players together because most of them a programmed a certain way by now.  Words and scheme won’t change that.

Is Kyrie a ball-movment guy ?  Absolutely No


Are Brown and Tatum ? Absolutely Yes, their respective games were destroyed by the on-court influence of Irving. Did you not watch last season or this season when Irving was a DNP - both guys were integral parts of a ball-popping offense.

Are Morris and Rozier ? Yes, they too were heavily impacted by the team conflicts  and they are not as sure bets for being offense by the pass and cut as the others.
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Re: Celtics (1-3) at Bucks (3-1) Round 2 Game 5 5/8/19
« Reply #713 on: May 09, 2019, 01:07:14 AM »

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Just went over to http://www.tankathon.com and played until The Celtics ended up with the 3rd (Sac) and 11th (Memphis ) in the lotto. It made me feel a little better.

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« Reply #714 on: May 09, 2019, 01:26:25 AM »

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Just went over to http://www.tankathon.com and played until The Celtics ended up with the 3rd (Sac) and 11th (Memphis ) in the lotto. It made me feel a little better.

If that was real life, then I'll feel extra better despite the early exit. It means either one or two less asset to go out for Anthony Davis, or we hit it big with these lottos.


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« Reply #715 on: May 09, 2019, 01:28:01 AM »

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Didn't like this team at all this season...something just not there. For the first time in 25 years, I didn't care to watch every game....not a likeable, hard working team.
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« Reply #716 on: May 09, 2019, 02:35:32 AM »

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Well I am late to this party.  Didn’t get to see the game tonight.  Should I even bother watching the replay?  From the box score it looked like more of the same from Kyrie?

Did anyone play well?  Did they all just throw in the towel?  What a crap fest series.

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« Reply #717 on: May 09, 2019, 02:38:22 AM »

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Well I am late to this party.  Didn’t get to see the game tonight.  Should I even bother watching the replay?  From the box score it looked like more of the same from Kyrie?

Did anyone play well?  Did they all just throw in the towel?  What a crap fest series.

Nobody showed up basically. Stevens is trash. Irving chucking. Tatum looked lost. Rozier should not play in another NBA game again. Smart is a hustler. Brown, Horford, and Morris were enjoying themselves though.


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« Reply #718 on: May 09, 2019, 02:44:58 AM »

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Well I am late to this party.  Didn’t get to see the game tonight.  Should I even bother watching the replay?  From the box score it looked like more of the same from Kyrie?

Did anyone play well?  Did they all just throw in the towel?  What a crap fest series.

Nobody showed up basically. Stevens is trash. Irving chucking. Tatum looked lost. Rozier should not play in another NBA game again. Smart is a hustler. Brown, Horford, and Morris were enjoying themselves though.

Well that is disappointing.  Elimination game you would think that guys would at least hustle and put out effort. 

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« Reply #719 on: May 09, 2019, 02:51:59 AM »

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And the worse part about tonight, I missed Sale's 14 strikeout game ;D

Hearing about that made me feel a little better  :laugh:
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