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Would you trade Brown + White + #1 for Durant?

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Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #60 on: July 25, 2022, 09:47:14 AM »

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I donít think brown is in anyway untouchable.  But Iím not trading him with much else for a 34 year old kd.  I just feel like the cliff is in sight.

Re: Cs among teams in talks with BKN
« Reply #61 on: July 25, 2022, 09:49:35 AM »

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The only way this happens is if JB tells Brad he doesnít plan to resign with the Cs?
I agree with this.

Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #62 on: July 25, 2022, 09:50:17 AM »

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article reeks of a Nets desperation move to get a bigger package for Durant from someone (and sow discord in the C's locker room) rather than a legit story that the C's actually made that offer.

If the story came from one of the 10,000 other beat reporters I'd agree with you. The fact that it's coming from Woj and Shams has to make you believe its legitimate

That the Nets asked for Brown? Sure. We have no reason to doubt that. That the C's are willing to include Brown in a swap for KD? That's harder to say based on what we have.
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Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #63 on: July 25, 2022, 09:50:39 AM »

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This is kyrie all over again.  And it will be the same result

Ya know I forgot we got brogdon and danillo.  This might work

Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #64 on: July 25, 2022, 09:50:42 AM »

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Brown, Smart and three number ones.  Boston gets Durant.

The rotation player I am throwing in is PP.

I donít care about late round 1st rounders.

I love Jaylen Brownís game. Itís aggressive and electric.

I love Marcus Smartís game. Guy is a junkyard dog.

We already have a player that prefers to be passive by taking long 2s. His name is Jayson Tatum. KD is older and grumpier.

JBís game is also reckless and inconsistent. Handles are incredibly poor and he lacks a solid basketball IQ. How many times have we seen him drive into four players and turn it over. Losing brown wouldnít bother meÖesp if there are indications he wonít resign.

Rather keep smart if they could.

What are the indications that JB wonít sign? I havenít heard this from anyone in the know.

I love JBs reckless nature. I think he will improve his ball handling.

I donít think KD is a ball handler.

Not sure what JB has told Brad. But Iím sure Stevens has gotten an indication of what he might want and might do.
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Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #65 on: July 25, 2022, 09:52:15 AM »

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Honestly if Marcus Smart is the player that is preventing this from happening I'm somewhat shocked.

I'd argue that White is more valuable if we get KD. Smart and KD in the same locker room to me would be a ticking time bomb. No chance those two can coexist.

White knows his role on this team, and with a core of KD and Tatum we need guys that are just that - those who know their roles.. Smart unfortunately is not, and has never been that player.

Again, i would NOT trade Jaylen for KD to begin with - but now I feel like we are forced to. If Smart is the piece preventing it from happening, if everything else is equal, to me is idiotic.

Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #66 on: July 25, 2022, 09:53:32 AM »

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This is kyrie all over again.  And it will be the same result

Agree. Why would a malcontent change? What is different about Boston? KD went on Bill Simmonsí podcast a couple of years ago to say that he never actually considered Boston. What has changed? Why would he want to join just Tatum and Brogdon?

It doesnít make sense why Boston would want to bend over backwards for KD. It doesnít make sense that KD finally has fallen in love with Boston and will want to stay.

Let BKN trade him to PHX or Miami and ruin their chemistry.

Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #67 on: July 25, 2022, 09:54:10 AM »

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For me, if JB says he wonít or isnít sure if he will re-up year after next, you make the trade. Otherwise you donít. 

JB, White, Grant and a 1-2 firsts or JB, Smart and 1 first round pick for KD.

I hope that JB wants to be in Boston long term, but my gut is telling me that he doesnít.  :-\
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Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #68 on: July 25, 2022, 09:54:17 AM »

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This is kyrie all over again.  And it will be the same result

I understand the sentiment but I donít see KI and KD being 2 peas in a pod. Iím not a big KD fan in terms of how heís handled his career but as a player the guy is an all-time great and heís still near the top of his game.  And while KI appears (to me) to have some ongoing MH challenges that invariably cause problems, I donít really see that with KD.

KD and JT on the court together would be an opposing teamís nightmare - never mind with Brogdon too.  JT and JB together was great but manageableÖ but how do you stop these two 6í10 offensive juggernauts?

Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #69 on: July 25, 2022, 09:57:42 AM »

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Honestly if Marcus Smart is the player that is preventing this from happening I'm somewhat shocked.

I'd argue that White is more valuable if we get KD. Smart and KD in the same locker room to me would be a ticking time bomb. No chance those two can coexist.

White knows his role on this team, and with a core of KD and Tatum we need guys that are just that - those who know their roles.. Smart unfortunately is not, and has never been that player.

Again, i would NOT trade Jaylen for KD to begin with - but now I feel like we are forced to. If Smart is the piece preventing it from happening, if everything else is equal, to me is idiotic.

Thatís why I think this really may happen. It doesnít seem that the counter is far off from the original offer - if the reporting is accurate. Seems to me if both sides want something to happen theyíre close enough that it will.

Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #70 on: July 25, 2022, 09:57:53 AM »

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This is kyrie all over again.  And it will be the same result

I understand the sentiment but I donít see KI and KD being 2 peas in a pod. Iím not a big KD fan in terms of how heís handled his career but as a player the guy is an all-time great and heís still near the top of his game.  And while KI appears (to me) to have some ongoing MH challenges that invariably cause problems, I donít really see that with KD.

KD and JT on the court together would be an opposing teamís nightmare - never mind with Brogdon too.  JT and JB together was great but manageableÖ but how do you stop these two 6í10 offensive juggernauts?

Not sure about JT, but I think Ime has a good idea how to sweep a KD led squad. Trade away our backbone (JB and Marcus) and we get to see soft basketball again.

Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #71 on: July 25, 2022, 09:59:01 AM »

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The fact the Nets would turn that down for a 34 year old Durant is telling. Another FO trying to dig themselves out of their own demise.

Yeah, that is just crazy. They got KD for free in the first place (Russell s&t wasn't necessary). The fact that we are offering up a young all-star, very good role player, and a pick is huge for them. KD isn't 28.

If I'm the Cs, I hold steady. BKN needs to compete over the next few years since they don't have any of their own picks. Sure, they can acquire some late picks from another team who will then have KD, but it could be a Tatum/Brown/Sexton situation all over again if they suck.

KD/Curry for Brown/White/1st. If it takes another 1st to get the deal done, then I probably fold and do it, but we need to keep Smart on the Cs.

Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #72 on: July 25, 2022, 10:01:01 AM »

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Honestly if Marcus Smart is the player that is preventing this from happening I'm somewhat shocked.

I'd argue that White is more valuable if we get KD. Smart and KD in the same locker room to me would be a ticking time bomb. No chance those two can coexist.

White knows his role on this team, and with a core of KD and Tatum we need guys that are just that - those who know their roles.. Smart unfortunately is not, and has never been that player.

Again, i would NOT trade Jaylen for KD to begin with - but now I feel like we are forced to. If Smart is the piece preventing it from happening, if everything else is equal, to me is idiotic.

Thatís why I think this really may happen. It doesnít seem that the counter is far off from the original offer - if the reporting is accurate. Seems to me if both sides want something to happen theyíre close enough that it will.

The thing thats ironic is how there have been multiple reports through the years of Smart and Brown clashing and not getting along, again speculation but with enough 'evidence' that kind of backs the theory.

The Nets want to keep them paired? If the goal is to get (and retain) Brown - you want to trade him with the guy he already can't stand?

Thats why the Nets are the Nets.

Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #73 on: July 25, 2022, 10:01:06 AM »

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I'm in the "I don't trade Brown unless I'm certain that he isn't resigning" camp.

But I also remember that one of the reasons that we signed Big Al is that during Durant 1.0, he said that he wanted to play with Horford. Maybe that helps with the chemistry.

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Re: New Celtics / Durant rumor
« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2022, 10:03:34 AM »

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Do the deal