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Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2022, 07:24:59 AM »

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Very poppy kinda guy, would be a great pickup.

We can afford him with TPE right?
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Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2022, 11:09:26 AM »

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Iím meh on him..we need height cause Al is older & canít depend on TimeLord health

It doesn't have to be a choice between talent and height. Donte can likely be had for a bargain price, that's the point. He's a rotation-quality wing, which the Celtics also need.

As a matter of fact I'd argue that that's more critical than getting a fourth rotation-quality big. That's why they got Theis at the deadline last year; and he provided valuable minutes. In fact, Ime uses Grant Williams frequently in big/swing lineups, further reducing the need for getting yet another rotation-quality big.

The value of bigs in this modern era is at its lowest since the beginning of the league.

Ironically, Milwaukee gave up DiVincenzo to get a backup big; but Ibaka played sparingly. I don't want to diminish the importance of having backups, even if they aren't getting court time. But the Bucks could have used another rotation wing in the playoffs with Middleton out. I think it was a mistake.
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Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2022, 11:25:41 AM »

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Would not mind getting him without giving up anything.

Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2022, 11:29:19 AM »

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Would not mind getting him without giving up anything.

Exactly. Since he's unrestricted, it's only a question of finding the price point.
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Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2022, 11:58:29 AM »

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Iím meh on him..we need height cause Al is older & canít depend on TimeLord health

It doesn't have to be a choice between talent and height. Donte can likely be had for a bargain price, that's the point. He's a rotation-quality wing, which the Celtics also need.

As a matter of fact I'd argue that that's more critical than getting a fourth rotation-quality big. That's why they got Theis at the deadline last year; and he provided valuable minutes. In fact, Ime uses Grant Williams frequently in big/swing lineups, further reducing the need for getting yet another rotation-quality big.

The value of bigs in this modern era is at its lowest since the beginning of the league.

Ironically, Milwaukee gave up DiVincenzo to get a backup big; but Ibaka played sparingly. I don't want to diminish the importance of having backups, even if they aren't getting court time. But the Bucks could have used another rotation wing in the playoffs with Middleton out. I think it was a mistake.
this.  if the price is minimal, he's a great pick up.  not sure how high I'd go to sign him without seeing how he's recovered but he's much better than the players at the end of our bench who contributed nothing

Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2022, 02:49:16 PM »

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Iím meh on him..we need height cause Al is older & canít depend on TimeLord health

It doesn't have to be a choice between talent and height. Donte can likely be had for a bargain price, that's the point. He's a rotation-quality wing, which the Celtics also need.

As a matter of fact I'd argue that that's more critical than getting a fourth rotation-quality big. That's why they got Theis at the deadline last year; and he provided valuable minutes. In fact, Ime uses Grant Williams frequently in big/swing lineups, further reducing the need for getting yet another rotation-quality big.

The value of bigs in this modern era is at its lowest since the beginning of the league.

Ironically, Milwaukee gave up DiVincenzo to get a backup big; but Ibaka played sparingly. I don't want to diminish the importance of having backups, even if they aren't getting court time. But the Bucks could have used another rotation wing in the playoffs with Middleton out. I think it was a mistake.
this.  if the price is minimal, he's a great pick up.  not sure how high I'd go to sign him without seeing how he's recovered but he's much better than the players at the end of our bench who contributed nothing

This is where I am. Itís all a question of money. If the price is right itís an opportunity to lengthen the rotation and lighten the load on Jayson and Jaylen over the long season.
'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so Iím definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021

Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2022, 03:41:23 PM »

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Very poppy kinda guy, would be a great pickup.

We can afford him with TPE right?

If you mean poppy, as in a Popovich kind of guy, I agree.

Heís unrestricted, so itís a question of what his market will bear and how much tax Boston wants to spend.
'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so Iím definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021

Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2022, 03:48:28 PM »

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i am all for getting Donte DiVincenzo.  He just seemed like a guy the C's could use.  pretty good shooter, explosive at times with the ball on drives, looks like a good defender from what I have seen.  Can def get hot and score the basketball at times too.

He may only be 6'4" but he has a 42" vertical, I mean he can jump.  So I don't think his height isn't as big of a deal.

Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2022, 03:52:04 PM »

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i am all for getting Donte DiVincenzo.  He just seemed like a guy the C's could use.  pretty good shooter, explosive at times with the ball on drives, looks like a good defender from what I have seen.  Can def get hot and score the basketball at times too.

He may only be 6'4" but he has a 42" vertical, I mean he can jump.  So I don't think his height isn't as big of a deal.

He's a Three and D guy, might be better in the role than PP, also might free PP up as an asset to be dealt. 

From a fansided article about the Bulls going after him: 

"Donte DiVincenzo is a 3-and-D player that can solve a lot of the Bullsí problems in their second unit. He has good size and championship pedigree, serving as a key part in building the Bucksí culture during their championship run."

Seems, that's kind of what we need.
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Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2022, 03:59:52 PM »

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i am all for getting Donte DiVincenzo.  He just seemed like a guy the C's could use.  pretty good shooter, explosive at times with the ball on drives, looks like a good defender from what I have seen.  Can def get hot and score the basketball at times too.

He may only be 6'4" but he has a 42" vertical, I mean he can jump.  So I don't think his height isn't as big of a deal.

He's a Three and D guy, might be better in the role than PP, also might free PP up as an asset to be dealt. 

From a fansided article about the Bulls going after him: 

"Donte DiVincenzo is a 3-and-D player that can solve a lot of the Bullsí problems in their second unit. He has good size and championship pedigree, serving as a key part in building the Bucksí culture during their championship run."

Seems, that's kind of what we need.

Sign him up!!!  He is basically what we all want Nesmith to be, if Nesmith was good right now.

Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2022, 04:21:38 PM »

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Cís have enough 6í4Ē guards. Heís an average shooter as well. Team needs a wing.

I don't understand what you're saying. He's a wing. Current thinking divides players into ballhandlers, wings, swings, and bigs. We know that Brad Stevens thinks in these terms - although he subsequently left out swings.

An outstanding defender who shoots league average from three and gets to the line is a valuable commodity.

Heís not a wing. Heís a 6í4Ē SG. Cís need someone 6í6Ē+ that can backup Tatum. Donte Is not that guy.

Ah. A teachable moment.

Shooting Guards and Small Forwards have been known as wings for generations. It goes back to when your three fastest players would attack on the break: point guard in the center, and shooting guard and small forward on either wing - hence the name.

It has long been recognized that shooting guards and small forwards had more in common with each other, despite their names, than with either point guards or power forwards.

Nowadays those antiquated terms are gradually falling out of use. Instead of point guards, there are ballhandlers; instead of shooting guards and small forwards there are wings; instead of centers and power forwards we have bigs; and there is another type called the swing, who is a bigger player with the game of a wing who replaces the traditional power forward.

I canít tell why you think Tatum specifically needs a backup. Last season it was basically Jaylen Brown who backed him up, which makes perfect sense.

The typical lineup was Smart/White/Brown/Grant/big, in other words two ballhandlers, a wing, a swing, and a big.
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Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2022, 04:30:26 PM »

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I've liked him for a while and think he'd be a great pickup!

Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2022, 04:49:01 PM »

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i am all for getting Donte DiVincenzo.  He just seemed like a guy the C's could use.  pretty good shooter, explosive at times with the ball on drives, looks like a good defender from what I have seen.  Can def get hot and score the basketball at times too.

He may only be 6'4" but he has a 42" vertical, I mean he can jump.  So I don't think his height isn't as big of a deal.

He's a Three and D guy, might be better in the role than PP, also might free PP up as an asset to be dealt. 

From a fansided article about the Bulls going after him: 

"Donte DiVincenzo is a 3-and-D player that can solve a lot of the Bullsí problems in their second unit. He has good size and championship pedigree, serving as a key part in building the Bucksí culture during their championship run."

Seems, that's kind of what we need.

Sign him up!!!  He is basically what we all want Nesmith to be, if Nesmith was good right now.

I think Nesmith could be a scorer off the bench - one of those needs that Brad identified in his press conference last week. Heís got moves with the ball and a paint repertoire.

Was this season his Sophomore Slump? Letís hope so.
'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so Iím definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021

Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2022, 05:37:09 PM »

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i am all for getting Donte DiVincenzo.  He just seemed like a guy the C's could use.  pretty good shooter, explosive at times with the ball on drives, looks like a good defender from what I have seen.  Can def get hot and score the basketball at times too.

He may only be 6'4" but he has a 42" vertical, I mean he can jump.  So I don't think his height isn't as big of a deal.

He's a Three and D guy, might be better in the role than PP, also might free PP up as an asset to be dealt. 

From a fansided article about the Bulls going after him: 

"Donte DiVincenzo is a 3-and-D player that can solve a lot of the Bullsí problems in their second unit. He has good size and championship pedigree, serving as a key part in building the Bucksí culture during their championship run."

Seems, that's kind of what we need.

Sign him up!!!  He is basically what we all want Nesmith to be, if Nesmith was good right now.

I think Nesmith could be a scorer off the bench - one of those needs that Brad identified in his press conference last week. Heís got moves with the ball and a paint repertoire.

Was this season his Sophomore Slump? Letís hope so.

Nesmith needs to hit the three. If he was hitting 3 at 40% then he'd be playing.

Re: Donte DiVincenzo
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2022, 06:27:27 PM »

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i am all for getting Donte DiVincenzo.  He just seemed like a guy the C's could use.  pretty good shooter, explosive at times with the ball on drives, looks like a good defender from what I have seen.  Can def get hot and score the basketball at times too.

He may only be 6'4" but he has a 42" vertical, I mean he can jump.  So I don't think his height isn't as big of a deal.

He's a Three and D guy, might be better in the role than PP, also might free PP up as an asset to be dealt. 

From a fansided article about the Bulls going after him: 

"Donte DiVincenzo is a 3-and-D player that can solve a lot of the Bullsí problems in their second unit. He has good size and championship pedigree, serving as a key part in building the Bucksí culture during their championship run."

Seems, that's kind of what we need.

Sign him up!!!  He is basically what we all want Nesmith to be, if Nesmith was good right now.

I think Nesmith could be a scorer off the bench - one of those needs that Brad identified in his press conference last week. Heís got moves with the ball and a paint repertoire.

Was this season his Sophomore Slump? Letís hope so.

Nesmith needs to hit the three. If he was hitting 3 at 40% then he'd be playing.

It couldn't have hurt him, but his defense didn't help. It works the other way, too; it's easier to be consistent with your long-range shot if you get consistent minutes.

He shot .370 in his rookie season, which was a notch above league-average. And, for what it's worth, he shot .700 on long 2's this year. Those are good indicators for next season.
'I was proud of Marcus Smart. He did a great job of keeping us together. He might not get credit for this game, but the pace that he played at, and his playcalling, some of the plays that he called were great. We obviously have to rely on him, so Iím definitely looking forward to Marcus leading this team in that role.' - Jaylen Brown, January 2021