NFL Off-season 2022

[Neurotic Guy]

Patriots select WR Tyquan Thornton

He's a very speedy receiver and probably one of the fastest guys in the Draft which is nice but just like Strange, I'm pretty sure most mocks had him going later lol (not Round 2)

They really felt that had to trade up four spots (or whatever it was) to select this guy? I just don't get it. It's like Bill feels he needs to make trades because that's his reputation. He's outsmarting himself. Seriously.

Do we know what the trade was?

[Phantom255x]

Patriots select WR Tyquan Thornton

He's a very speedy receiver and probably one of the fastest guys in the Draft which is nice but just like Strange, I'm pretty sure most mocks had him going later lol (not Round 2)

They really felt that had to trade up four spots (or whatever it was) to select this guy? I just don't get it. It's like Bill feels he needs to make trades because that's his reputation. He's outsmarting himself. Seriously.

Do we know what the trade was?

#54 and #158 to KC for #50.

Also, most mock drafts and experts actually had him projected as a mid-round pick (Round 4 or 5). So umm...   

[gouki88]

Patriots select WR Tyquan Thornton

He's a very speedy receiver and probably one of the fastest guys in the Draft which is nice but just like Strange, I'm pretty sure most mocks had him going later lol (not Round 2)

They really felt that had to trade up four spots (or whatever it was) to select this guy? I just don't get it. It's like Bill feels he needs to make trades because that's his reputation. He's outsmarting himself. Seriously.

It does feel weird. I can't see him getting mail that he needs to make these moves, right?

I do like Thornton though. Reminds me a lot of Robby Anderson. He is the complete opposite of Skyy Moore, so knuckledraggers like Mel Kiper going "why would they choose him over Moore?" is a bit goofy.

[tazzmaniac]

Patriots select WR Tyquan Thornton

He's a very speedy receiver and probably one of the fastest guys in the Draft which is nice but just like Strange, I'm pretty sure most mocks had him going later lol (not Round 2)

They really felt that had to trade up four spots (or whatever it was) to select this guy? I just don't get it. It's like Bill feels he needs to make trades because that's his reputation. He's outsmarting himself. Seriously.

EDIT: They traded their own pick plus a 5th round pick for Thornton. I really don't get it.

The Eagles could have been looking at him.  They missed out on Jameson Williams in the 1st round. 

[Phantom255x]

The Pats so far have used two picks on guys that were probably going to be available the next day anyways. I mean on one hand you can say it's nice they are getting the guys they want, but on another they aren't really managing this well. I mean why trade up 4 spots to get a guy who likely would have been there Round 4?? I feel like they could have traded down again and gotten both Thornton and another player (or last night, trade down from #29 to get Strange and someone else). A bit odd.

[Celtics2021]

The Pats so far have used two picks on guys that were probably going to be available the next day anyways. I mean on one hand you can say it's nice they are getting the guys they want, but on another they aren't really managing this well. I mean why trade up 4 spots to get a guy who likely would have been there Round 4?? I feel like they could have traded down again and gotten both Thornton and another player (or last night, trade down from #29 to get Strange and someone else). A bit odd.

Teams generally have pretty good intel on what other teams are thinking.  It would be very surprising if Thornton would have been there in a few picks.

[gouki88]

The Pats so far have used two picks on guys that were probably going to be available the next day anyways. I mean on one hand you can say it's nice they are getting the guys they want, but on another they aren't really managing this well. I mean why trade up 4 spots to get a guy who likely would have been there Round 4?? I feel like they could have traded down again and gotten both Thornton and another player (or last night, trade down from #29 to get Strange and someone else). A bit odd.

Thornton would not have been there at the end of today, regardless of the nonsense Kiper goes on about. I'm not sure how he still has a job, to be honest. I personally would have thought he'd make it to R3 though

[Cman]

The Pats so far have used two picks on guys that were probably going to be available the next day anyways. I mean on one hand you can say it's nice they are getting the guys they want, but on another they aren't really managing this well. I mean why trade up 4 spots to get a guy who likely would have been there Round 4?? I feel like they could have traded down again and gotten both Thornton and another player (or last night, trade down from #29 to get Strange and someone else). A bit odd.

Teams generally have pretty good intel on what other teams are thinking.  It would be very surprising if Thornton would have been there in a few picks.

We can only guess as to whether he would've been there or not. But, it is interesting to see that after the Pats picked, there was a run on 3 WR and 1 TE over the next 5 picks. So, maybe they are right and he wouldn't have been there, regardless of whether this particular WR was ranked below the other 3 on national mock draft boards. I did like Pierce though, the one that Indy got.

I am hoping that WR is a spot that the Pats double-dip at. We'll see if that happens during this draft or not.

Next up, I am hoping they take the super speedy CB from Sam Houston state: Zyon McCollum.

[Goldstar88]

Patriots select WR Tyquan Thornton

He's a very speedy receiver and probably one of the fastest guys in the Draft which is nice but just like Strange, I'm pretty sure most mocks had him going later lol (not Round 2)

They really felt that had to trade up four spots (or whatever it was) to select this guy? I just don't get it. It's like Bill feels he needs to make trades because that's his reputation. He's outsmarting himself. Seriously.

EDIT: They traded their own pick plus a 5th round pick for Thornton. I really don't get it.

He’s 6’2” and ran the fastest 40’ time during the combine at 4.28 seconds. In 14 games last year at Baylor he had 950 yards receiving and 10TD’s. I’m OK with this pick. Pats haven’t had a deep threat in a long time…

[Cman]

Patriots select WR Tyquan Thornton

He's a very speedy receiver and probably one of the fastest guys in the Draft which is nice but just like Strange, I'm pretty sure most mocks had him going later lol (not Round 2)

They really felt that had to trade up four spots (or whatever it was) to select this guy? I just don't get it. It's like Bill feels he needs to make trades because that's his reputation. He's outsmarting himself. Seriously.

EDIT: They traded their own pick plus a 5th round pick for Thornton. I really don't get it.

He’s 6’2” and ran the fastest 40’ time during the combine at 4.28 seconds. In 14 games last year at Baylor he had 950 yards receiving and 10TD’s. I’m OK with this pick. Pats haven’t had a deep threat in a long time…

Right. Like the OG Strange pick, it fills a need. I think the knock on these picks is that the Pats could've waited, traded back, etc. Who knows if that's true. I think to the Pats credit, the fact that the next several picks were all WRs bolsters the case that they were smart to trade up to snag the WR that they wanted. So, I am less annoyed by this pick than I was initially.

[Phantom255x]

How is Nakobe Dean still available?? Did he do something serious off-the-field we're not aware of? 

[Phantom255x]

How is Nakobe Dean still available?? Did he do something serious off-the-field we're not aware of? 

This the reason?

https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/status/1520215513665843200?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Per source, Georgia LB Nakobe Dean declined surgery on his shoulder, and it's now a major concern/medical red flag.

[gouki88]

How is Nakobe Dean still available?? Did he do something serious off-the-field we're not aware of? 

This the reason?

https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/status/1520215513665843200?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Per source, Georgia LB Nakobe Dean declined surgery on his shoulder, and it's now a major concern/medical red flag.

Wow, did not know about this! That is really unfortunate.

[Phantom255x]

How is Nakobe Dean still available?? Did he do something serious off-the-field we're not aware of? 

This the reason?

https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/status/1520215513665843200?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Per source, Georgia LB Nakobe Dean declined surgery on his shoulder, and it's now a major concern/medical red flag.

Wow, did not know about this! That is really unfortunate.

Yeah it might even be a bit more serious than thought:

https://twitter.com/MattLombardoNFL/status/1520217072298561536?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Per league source, there’s a feeling inside the #NFL Nakobe Dean is looking at a redshirt year due to Pec tear and meniscus in knee. #NFLDraft

[Roy H.]

How is Nakobe Dean still available?? Did he do something serious off-the-field we're not aware of? 

This the reason?

https://twitter.com/PFF_AustinGayle/status/1520215513665843200?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Per source, Georgia LB Nakobe Dean declined surgery on his shoulder, and it's now a major concern/medical red flag.

Wow, did not know about this! That is really unfortunate.

Yeah it might even be a bit more serious than thought:

https://twitter.com/MattLombardoNFL/status/1520217072298561536?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Per league source, there’s a feeling inside the #NFL Nakobe Dean is looking at a redshirt year due to Pec tear and meniscus in knee. #NFLDraft

Even as a redshirt his value becomes too good to pass up at some point, right?  I’d rather have Dean than the 25 year old punt returner the Bears just drafted, for instance.