Bulpett: Bulls wanted #3 pick, two rotation players, and Nets 2017 pick

[LooseCannon]

The Bulls should be asking for more than Butler is worth.  The Celtics should refuse to give up more than Butler is worth.  No deal unless one team is wrong about his value or desperate to make a move.

[hpantazo]

Too much.

But Ainge messed up the 3rd pick as well. Should have drafted Kris Dunn and traded a guard.

Brown will be better than Dunn. So Ainge did the correct thing.

Pretty much this. Brown in 2-3 years will be better than Butler, so the Bulls can shove it.

[moiso]

Too much.

But Ainge messed up the 3rd pick as well. Should have drafted Kris Dunn and traded a guard.

Brown will be better than Dunn. So Ainge did the correct thing.

Pretty much this. Brown in 2-3 years will be better than Butler, so the Bulls can shove it.

And pretty much this!

[kozlodoev]

Too much.

But Ainge messed up the 3rd pick as well. Should have drafted Kris Dunn and traded a guard.

Brown will be better than Dunn. So Ainge did the correct thing.

Pretty much this. Brown in 2-3 years will be better than Butler, so the Bulls can shove it.

And pretty much this!

Well, either that or he'll be worse than Kedrick Brown.

[Dino Pitino]

Too much.

But Ainge messed up the 3rd pick as well. Should have drafted Kris Dunn and traded a guard.

Brown will be better than Dunn. So Ainge did the correct thing.

Pretty much this. Brown in 2-3 years will be better than Butler, so the Bulls can shove it.

And pretty much this!

Well, either that or he'll be worse than Kedrick Brown.

He'd have to suffer some freak injury or sudden obesity or a meth addiction or get killed by a meteor  to be worse than Kedrick. If healthy, there are ZERO out of INFINITE future universes where Jaylen Brown winds up worse than Kedrick.

[Q_FBE]

Too much.

But Ainge messed up the 3rd pick as well. Should have drafted Kris Dunn and traded a guard.

Trade Marcus Smart for who? Jeff Green?
We have Terry Rozier also.

Jaylen Brown might turn into a superstar and we have Brooklyn's 2017 pick.

[kozlodoev]

Too much.

But Ainge messed up the 3rd pick as well. Should have drafted Kris Dunn and traded a guard.

Brown will be better than Dunn. So Ainge did the correct thing.

Pretty much this. Brown in 2-3 years will be better than Butler, so the Bulls can shove it.

And pretty much this!

Well, either that or he'll be worse than Kedrick Brown.

He'd have to suffer some freak injury or sudden obesity or a meth addiction or get killed by a meteor  to be worse than Kedrick. If healthy, there are ZERO out of INFINITE future universes where Jaylen Brown winds up worse than Kedrick.

He's already had worse SL than Kedrick Brown did so there's that.

[saltlover]

Too much.

But Ainge messed up the 3rd pick as well. Should have drafted Kris Dunn and traded a guard.

Brown will be better than Dunn. So Ainge did the correct thing.

Pretty much this. Brown in 2-3 years will be better than Butler, so the Bulls can shove it.

And pretty much this!

Well, either that or he'll be worse than Kedrick Brown.

He'd have to suffer some freak injury or sudden obesity or a meth addiction or get killed by a meteor  to be worse than Kedrick. If healthy, there are ZERO out of INFINITE future universes where Jaylen Brown winds up worse than Kedrick.

He's already had worse SL than Kedrick Brown did so there's that.

That's debatable.  If you want to go by pure scoring numbers, LeBron James had a worse summer league than Kedrick Brown, and they actually played against each other.  So it's pretty pointless to say that.

[PaulP34]

Way to much for Butler. Glad we kept the pick. Thank u Bulls. We now have JB

[Dino Pitino]

Too much.

But Ainge messed up the 3rd pick as well. Should have drafted Kris Dunn and traded a guard.

Brown will be better than Dunn. So Ainge did the correct thing.

Pretty much this. Brown in 2-3 years will be better than Butler, so the Bulls can shove it.

And pretty much this!

Well, either that or he'll be worse than Kedrick Brown.

He'd have to suffer some freak injury or sudden obesity or a meth addiction or get killed by a meteor  to be worse than Kedrick. If healthy, there are ZERO out of INFINITE future universes where Jaylen Brown winds up worse than Kedrick.

He's already had worse SL than Kedrick Brown did so there's that.

Well, thank god you will always have Kedrick Brown's summer league performance to fuel your miserable cynicism.

[kozlodoev]

Too much.

But Ainge messed up the 3rd pick as well. Should have drafted Kris Dunn and traded a guard.

Brown will be better than Dunn. So Ainge did the correct thing.

Pretty much this. Brown in 2-3 years will be better than Butler, so the Bulls can shove it.

And pretty much this!

Well, either that or he'll be worse than Kedrick Brown.

He'd have to suffer some freak injury or sudden obesity or a meth addiction or get killed by a meteor  to be worse than Kedrick. If healthy, there are ZERO out of INFINITE future universes where Jaylen Brown winds up worse than Kedrick.

He's already had worse SL than Kedrick Brown did so there's that.

Well, thank god you will always have Kedrick Brown's summer league performance to fuel your miserable cynicism.

You'd be surprised how much less than that is sufficient. Sorry.

[mctyson]

For those crucifying Ainge for trying to 'win' a trade on draft night, apparently the asking price for Butler was insane. The Bulls wanted the #3 pick, the Nets 2017 pick, and two rotation players that were likely Bradley and Crowder.

"The initial key for the Bulls was the third overall pick from last month’s draft and the ability to select Providence guard Kris Dunn. The aforementioned sources added that the Celtics were willing to add one player from their rotation when Chicago wanted a second.

“Another sticking point in that and in other deals Boston is talking about is that pick from the Nets next year,” said one of these sources. “Danny will make it available in the right situation, but he’s not going to give it up with core players, too. That’s going to be a good draft, and that’s going to be a high pick."

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2016/07/bulpett_celtics_working_the_nba_room_but_no_deals_pending

Ridiculous. 

[mctyson]

So the Bulls, Wolves , and the Sixers(plus more) wanted Dunn and DA still selected Jaylen. Pretty negligent and he should have traded down or just selected Dunn.

Trades down/up are easier said than done in the NBA draft.  As many have said, this isn't the NFL.

We know for a fact that Okafor was available for the #3 straight up and IMO that would have been a very fair trade.

"Very fair" could be stretching it.  If that happened I would have been OK with the move, because it would signal to me that Danny and Brad didn't value any one of the Brown/Dunn/Murray/Bender/etc group more than Okafor...meaning they like Okafor.  I can live with that.  But the facts are that his trade wasn't made and reports prior to the draft stated that Philly need to add something beyond Okafor to get #3.  That tells me Okafor is not highly sought after and that Danny and Brad wanted Brown more.  I am glad they did.

But we could have traded down and still selected Jaylen, maybe even Zach Lavine and the #5 for #3 and #16

Complete speculation by you.

Ainge was negligent this draft and it's obvious. Jaylen is a great prospect but he was available 5-7 and we need to get value back (at minimum) or get more than value back for our best assets. Yab and the #31 were 2 huge other mistakes

Now you are being ridiculous.

[cltc5]

Thank god

[Ilikesports17]

We know for a fact that Okafor was available for the #3 straight up and IMO that would have been a very fair trade.

"Very fair" could be stretching it.  If that happened I would have been OK with the move, because it would signal to me that Danny and Brad didn't value any one of the Brown/Dunn/Murray/Bender/etc group more than Okafor...meaning they like Okafor.  I can live with that.  But the facts are that his trade wasn't made and reports prior to the draft stated that Philly need to add something beyond Okafor to get #3.  That tells me Okafor is not highly sought after and that Danny and Brad wanted Brown more.  I am glad they did.

lets be clear that we do not know for a fact that Okafor was available for #3.