Time to Trade Jaylen After this Season

[Jvalin]

After reading a couple of articles, I'm convinced that Jaylen isn't going to be here for long. I think he would probably like to sign here to get max $, then be traded. He might also want to pick his next place through FA. Either way, I don't think Boston is where he wants to be.

Ideas:

-Jaren Jackson and Bane for Jaylen. Jaylen would be great next to Ja.
-Markennen and a bunch of picks to Utah. Not a huge fan of Markannen but I like those Utah picks.
-Bam, etc and picks. I really like Bam's game.
-Atlanta big men (any of them) + picks for Jaylen. He gets to go home.
-Orlando big men + picks for Jaylen.
-Bridges etc for Jaylen. I bet Jaylen would feel more comfortable in BKN.

Any thoughts?

I'd probably do Bridges+ for Brown regardless of whether he plans to re-sign with the C's. I consider Bridges a better 2-way player. His early days with the Nets suggest he's a better shot creator as well (although it's a small sample size). He's better suited to play 2nd fiddle to Tatum cause a) he's a more reliable shooter, b) he's likely happy to play away from the ball as evidenced by the fact he was an off-ball specialist in Phoenix. Not to mention, he's considerably cheaper than Brown and is under team control till 2026.

[Kernewek]

He’ll probably get the super max and then force his way out after that. Don’t think he’ll be a C forever.

And if he does, can you blame him?

[PAOBoston]

He’ll probably get the super max and then force his way out after that. Don’t think he’ll be a C forever.

And if he does, can you blame him?

Nope. From a selfish standpoint, he should secure his bag of money.  If he still feels the way he does after that, he can pressure the team to send him to a situation that fits him. Unless he pulls some Kyrie stuff and just quits on the Cs and just becomes a mega pill, it is what it is from me. The guy ain’t from Boston so he doesn’t have any ties here. It stinks he feels that way but can’t control a guy and where he works/lives just because.

[tonydelk]

He’ll probably get the super max and then force his way out after that. Don’t think he’ll be a C forever.

And if he does, can you blame him?

Nope. From a selfish standpoint, he should secure his bag of money.  If he still feels the way he does after that, he can pressure the team to send him to a situation that fits him. Unless he pulls some Kyrie stuff and just quits on the Cs and just becomes a mega pill, it is what it is from me. The guy ain’t from Boston so he doesn’t have any ties here. It stinks he feels that way but can’t control a guy and where he works/lives just because.

Even if he did that the question would become does the league view him as a supermax player?  If not he won't have leverage on a trade.  If they do then the C's will get great value since he'd be signed for 4 years vs 1.  They could target a bench scorer and a young PF.

Let's say they traded Brown to Memphis for JJJ and pieces/picks.  The defense on this tea would be off the charts.  It would be more balanced scoring.  They could move Smart and start White at PG and start Brogdon at SG as well.

PG - Smart
SG - White
SF - Tatum
PF - JJJ
C - Rob

Bench
Brogdon
Al Horford
Gallo
Grant Williams
Hauser
PP
FA's and Draft picks.

[ozgod]

He’ll probably get the super max and then force his way out after that. Don’t think he’ll be a C forever.

And if he does, can you blame him?

Nope. From a selfish standpoint, he should secure his bag of money.  If he still feels the way he does after that, he can pressure the team to send him to a situation that fits him. Unless he pulls some Kyrie stuff and just quits on the Cs and just becomes a mega pill, it is what it is from me. The guy ain’t from Boston so he doesn’t have any ties here. It stinks he feels that way but can’t control a guy and where he works/lives just because.

Have I missed something, or has Jaylen actually said that he doesn't like Boston and wants to leave? Or is that just what we're reading from his comments in various interviews?

[td450]

The new era of super-large contracts for the best players will probably mean more of the new money goes to the stars. And because of that, it will be harder accumulate the contracts to trade for stars, or to clear space for signing stars, and still be appealing.

[keevsnick]

Okay, here's how this plays out.

If Jaylen makes all-nba the c's will offer him the supermax, and he will sign it because nobody turns down that money. That doesn't mean he's here forever, guys force their way out all the time now, but it does take most of the downside out because it means he's not leaving for nothing.

If he misses all NBA the Celtics will offer him the max they can. Its possible that the CBA negotiations change the rules and allow the c's to offer him the regular 30% max. He MIGHT accept that, or he might elect to play next year out and try to get all-nba to secure the super max NEXT off season.

So if that's what happens, what do you do? My guess is the C's would just play it out. He still might qualify for the super max next year, and even if he doesn't that doesn't mean he's leaving. It may be he's fine staying here for the regular max but just wants to try for the supermax. I just have a hard time believing the guy is going to walk away from a contending team, where he has a pretty large offensive role, and that can offer him the most money. Usually, that combination of factors means a guy re-signs.

If the trades are some of the ones mentioned here which are like a couple role players, and a few middling picks, then honestly just keep him and try to win it all next year. I'd still lean pretty heavily on him returning as long as the c's offer the max they are able to.

[Big333223]

He’ll probably get the super max and then force his way out after that. Don’t think he’ll be a C forever.

And if he does, can you blame him?

Nope. From a selfish standpoint, he should secure his bag of money.  If he still feels the way he does after that, he can pressure the team to send him to a situation that fits him. Unless he pulls some Kyrie stuff and just quits on the Cs and just becomes a mega pill, it is what it is from me. The guy ain’t from Boston so he doesn’t have any ties here. It stinks he feels that way but can’t control a guy and where he works/lives just because.

Have I missed something, or has Jaylen actually said that he doesn't like Boston and wants to leave? Or is that just what we're reading from his comments in various interviews?

If he did, I missed it too. I read the NY Times piece and the Ringer piece. I came away feeling like everyone is overreacting and doing a lot of speculating.

From the podcasts I've been listening too, it's sounding more and more likely that Jaylen is going to make an All NBA team as a forward, which is terrific. The Celtics being able to offer him a supermax extension this summer is the best possible outcome and they'll do so without blinking because there's a new media deal on the horizon (in 2025, I think) that'll make every contract signed in the next 2 years feel much more palatable.

[jpotter33]

He’ll probably get the super max and then force his way out after that. Don’t think he’ll be a C forever.

And if he does, can you blame him?

Nope. From a selfish standpoint, he should secure his bag of money.  If he still feels the way he does after that, he can pressure the team to send him to a situation that fits him. Unless he pulls some Kyrie stuff and just quits on the Cs and just becomes a mega pill, it is what it is from me. The guy ain’t from Boston so he doesn’t have any ties here. It stinks he feels that way but can’t control a guy and where he works/lives just because.

Have I missed something, or has Jaylen actually said that he doesn't like Boston and wants to leave? Or is that just what we're reading from his comments in various interviews?

If he did, I missed it too. I read the NY Times piece and the Ringer piece. I came away feeling like everyone is overreacting and doing a lot of speculating.

From the podcasts I've been listening too, it's sounding more and more likely that Jaylen is going to make an All NBA team as a forward, which is terrific. The Celtics being able to offer him a supermax extension this summer is the best possible outcome and they'll do so without blinking because there's a new media deal on the horizon (in 2025, I think) that'll make every contract signed in the next 2 years feel much more palatable.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/04/what-new-nba-cba-means-for-celtics-jaylen-brown-extension-possibilities.html

The new CBA has really done us a favor. Regardless of all-NBA now, there’s no financial incentive for JB to wait until next summer if we offer the full max extension at 140% raises (which we’ll obviously do).

If he denies that, then I think we know he’s seriously considering leaving, and we have to seriously consider trading him this summer for value.

[Celtics2021]

He’ll probably get the super max and then force his way out after that. Don’t think he’ll be a C forever.

And if he does, can you blame him?

Nope. From a selfish standpoint, he should secure his bag of money.  If he still feels the way he does after that, he can pressure the team to send him to a situation that fits him. Unless he pulls some Kyrie stuff and just quits on the Cs and just becomes a mega pill, it is what it is from me. The guy ain’t from Boston so he doesn’t have any ties here. It stinks he feels that way but can’t control a guy and where he works/lives just because.

Have I missed something, or has Jaylen actually said that he doesn't like Boston and wants to leave? Or is that just what we're reading from his comments in various interviews?

If he did, I missed it too. I read the NY Times piece and the Ringer piece. I came away feeling like everyone is overreacting and doing a lot of speculating.

From the podcasts I've been listening too, it's sounding more and more likely that Jaylen is going to make an All NBA team as a forward, which is terrific. The Celtics being able to offer him a supermax extension this summer is the best possible outcome and they'll do so without blinking because there's a new media deal on the horizon (in 2025, I think) that'll make every contract signed in the next 2 years feel much more palatable.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/04/what-new-nba-cba-means-for-celtics-jaylen-brown-extension-possibilities.html

The new CBA has really done us a favor. Regardless of all-NBA now, there’s no financial incentive for JB to wait until next summer if we offer the full max extension at 140% raises (which we’ll obviously do).

If he denies that, then I think we know he’s seriously considering leaving, and we have to seriously consider trading him this summer for value.

There is still financial incentive.  If he gets All-NBA next year instead of this year, he’d be eligible for the supermax next summer.  And a max deal offered by the C’s next summer will still be more than the new extension.  But the extension is bigger than anything other teams could give him next summer, so it depends how much he wants to bet on himself.

I think he’ll sign one if he doesn’t get the supermax, but for only two additional years so he hits free agency after the new TV deal is put in place.