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Quote from: tazzmaniac on December 03, 2017, 08:59:58 AMQuote from: jambr380 on December 03, 2017, 08:23:14 AMQuote from: tazzmaniac on December 03, 2017, 08:09:51 AMQuote from: CelticsElite on December 03, 2017, 02:57:53 AMhttp://www.tankathon.comLakers are back to 7th worst team. Looking much better as the bad teams with records worse than lakers got some wins. If they can continue, then the lakers are in troubleWhy are the Lakers in trouble? They were never going to make the playoffs. Pretty much everyone had them 10th or 11th worst in the West which is where they are likely to finish. With the Clippers and Grizzlies injuries, they may end up doing a bit better. They are in trouble because, barring a huge FA splash (yes Lebron and PG would make a difference), this is really it for them. They have young players that they hope continue to improve, but they don't have their pick this year and probably won't have another high pick for years to come. They have basically been on the same trajectory as the Cs with their draft pick selections, but don't have Kyrie, Horford, and Hayward.Also, having the Lakers finish at 10th or 11th is a pretty optimistic view of their situation (apparently you think 12th/13th is a possibility with the Clips and Grizz faltering). They should get pummeled in December and hopefully fall back into the bottom 5 range. If not, it's not the end of the world; Cs fans just want to see the Lakers do poorly - with or without the pick conveying.Actually I bungled that. Kings and Suns should finish below them in the West. Good chance the Mavs and Clips will as well. Possibly the Grizz depending on Conley's situation. Don't know why people focus on Lakers having a tough December. Schedules balance out. Where the Lakers finish is predominantly going to be determined by how they play against the other bad teams. The Lakers last 4 picks have been 7th, 2nd, 2nd and 2nd. 2nd again this year would be really nice for us. If the Lakers don't sign a couple big time free agents in the offseason, they're most likely going to be a bottom 10 team again in 2018/19 and the new lottery odds will be in affect for the 2019 draft. also Lakers are In trouble because they cashed in Russell and thought brook "lottery team" Lopez was Getting them to the playoffs. Here's the kicker- nets have a better record right now than the Lakers. Nets are winning with addition by subtraction
Quote from: jambr380 on December 03, 2017, 08:23:14 AMQuote from: tazzmaniac on December 03, 2017, 08:09:51 AMQuote from: CelticsElite on December 03, 2017, 02:57:53 AMhttp://www.tankathon.comLakers are back to 7th worst team. Looking much better as the bad teams with records worse than lakers got some wins. If they can continue, then the lakers are in troubleWhy are the Lakers in trouble? They were never going to make the playoffs. Pretty much everyone had them 10th or 11th worst in the West which is where they are likely to finish. With the Clippers and Grizzlies injuries, they may end up doing a bit better. They are in trouble because, barring a huge FA splash (yes Lebron and PG would make a difference), this is really it for them. They have young players that they hope continue to improve, but they don't have their pick this year and probably won't have another high pick for years to come. They have basically been on the same trajectory as the Cs with their draft pick selections, but don't have Kyrie, Horford, and Hayward.Also, having the Lakers finish at 10th or 11th is a pretty optimistic view of their situation (apparently you think 12th/13th is a possibility with the Clips and Grizz faltering). They should get pummeled in December and hopefully fall back into the bottom 5 range. If not, it's not the end of the world; Cs fans just want to see the Lakers do poorly - with or without the pick conveying.Actually I bungled that. Kings and Suns should finish below them in the West. Good chance the Mavs and Clips will as well. Possibly the Grizz depending on Conley's situation. Don't know why people focus on Lakers having a tough December. Schedules balance out. Where the Lakers finish is predominantly going to be determined by how they play against the other bad teams. The Lakers last 4 picks have been 7th, 2nd, 2nd and 2nd. 2nd again this year would be really nice for us. If the Lakers don't sign a couple big time free agents in the offseason, they're most likely going to be a bottom 10 team again in 2018/19 and the new lottery odds will be in affect for the 2019 draft.
Quote from: tazzmaniac on December 03, 2017, 08:09:51 AMQuote from: CelticsElite on December 03, 2017, 02:57:53 AMhttp://www.tankathon.comLakers are back to 7th worst team. Looking much better as the bad teams with records worse than lakers got some wins. If they can continue, then the lakers are in troubleWhy are the Lakers in trouble? They were never going to make the playoffs. Pretty much everyone had them 10th or 11th worst in the West which is where they are likely to finish. With the Clippers and Grizzlies injuries, they may end up doing a bit better. They are in trouble because, barring a huge FA splash (yes Lebron and PG would make a difference), this is really it for them. They have young players that they hope continue to improve, but they don't have their pick this year and probably won't have another high pick for years to come. They have basically been on the same trajectory as the Cs with their draft pick selections, but don't have Kyrie, Horford, and Hayward.Also, having the Lakers finish at 10th or 11th is a pretty optimistic view of their situation (apparently you think 12th/13th is a possibility with the Clips and Grizz faltering). They should get pummeled in December and hopefully fall back into the bottom 5 range. If not, it's not the end of the world; Cs fans just want to see the Lakers do poorly - with or without the pick conveying.
Quote from: CelticsElite on December 03, 2017, 02:57:53 AMhttp://www.tankathon.comLakers are back to 7th worst team. Looking much better as the bad teams with records worse than lakers got some wins. If they can continue, then the lakers are in troubleWhy are the Lakers in trouble? They were never going to make the playoffs. Pretty much everyone had them 10th or 11th worst in the West which is where they are likely to finish. With the Clippers and Grizzlies injuries, they may end up doing a bit better.
http://www.tankathon.comLakers are back to 7th worst team. Looking much better as the bad teams with records worse than lakers got some wins. If they can continue, then the lakers are in trouble
Lakers are 7th from the basement just now - and only one game better than the 4th-worst Kings. I find it hard to believe they’ll fall past the Kings but if they did finish 4th from the bottom the. according to tankapaloosa there’s be a better than 70% chance of the pick falling 2-5. OTOH, if they stay on 7th it’s about 10%. That’s how much a few more wins or lossss can make.
Poor Lonzo looked absolutely terrible tonight. Genuinely feel for the guy..#lakerspick
Unfortunately we want to be 2-5, and the odds of that right now are 26%.
Quote from: chilidawg on December 04, 2017, 09:26:47 AMUnfortunately we want to be 2-5, and the odds of that right now are 26%.Hmmm...I think it's 34.3%.#2 - 1.6%#3 - 5.2%#4 - 11.5%#5 - 16.0%https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
Quote from: chilidawg on December 04, 2017, 09:26:47 AMUnfortunately we want to be 2-5, and the odds of that right now are 26%.Which is a little higher than our chances of getting the #1 pick in 2017 were
Quote from: The One on December 04, 2017, 12:05:05 PMQuote from: chilidawg on December 04, 2017, 09:26:47 AMUnfortunately we want to be 2-5, and the odds of that right now are 26%.Hmmm...I think it's 34.3%.#2 - 1.6%#3 - 5.2%#4 - 11.5%#5 - 16.0%https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.htmlThat's pre-lottery odds. Go down to the next chart and you'll see the odds with the lottery factored in:6.9, 7.3, 2.6, 9.3 = 26.1. It's still early though, not worth getting too worked up about it. It could change a lot in two weeks.