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If no Kyrie, reunite George Hill and Hayward
« on: May 12, 2019, 11:05:15 AM »

Offline philr13

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Hill is entering the final year of an extremely bloated contract he signed in Sacramento. If Milwaukee doesn't waive him before July 2nd they're on the hook for 18Mil next season. There's not much chance they're going to let that happen.

If Irving walks, which seems extremely possible at this point, Boston might get Hill to take the MLE. Hayward had his best year playing with Hill in Utah and was extremely disappointed that Utah didn't keep him.

They could draft a point guard to develop and have Hill fill the seat in the meantime.

Re: If no Kyrie, reunite George Hill and Hayward
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2019, 11:18:05 AM »

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If Kyrie walks, I actually love this idea.

Try and get Colby White at #14.

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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2019, 11:36:13 AM »

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Of the best we can do is greorge hill as a kyrie replacement then I dont wanna even watch the team.


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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2019, 11:38:01 AM »

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Wait, why would Milwaukee be off the hook for his contract if they waive him? Wouldn't they have to buy him out or something?

Plus he's also not very good
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Re: If no Kyrie, reunite George Hill and Hayward
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2019, 11:42:32 AM »

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Wait, why would Milwaukee be off the hook for his contract if they waive him? Wouldn't they have to buy him out or something?

Plus he's also not very good

His contract becomes guaranteed on July 2nd if he's not waived. He's an excellent player who is getting older. He'd be a great addition to the back-court rotation. Plus, he played very well with Hayward two years ago.

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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2019, 11:45:53 AM »

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Of the best we can do is greorge hill as a kyrie replacement then I dont wanna even watch the team.

At 33 years old, Hill would not be a Kyrie replacement. He would be a great addition to the back-court rotation. If you don't want to watch the team because they've added a veteran player in the off-season, that's your call.

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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2019, 11:50:16 AM »

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Of the best we can do is greorge hill as a kyrie replacement then I dont wanna even watch the team.

At 33 years old, Hill would not be a Kyrie replacement. He would be a great addition to the back-court rotation. If you don't want to watch the team because they've added a veteran player in the off-season, that's your call.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2019, 11:53:29 AM »

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If Kyrie leaves, the team has obviously reset around Tatum, Brown and our younger assets. We have Marcus Smart and there is no need to waste any significant resources on an older guy. Start looking for a young player that fits for the longer term.

If someone like Hill is available for the short term and it has no effect on longer term plans, then that's OK, but if it gets in the way because of money or minutes, then no.

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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2019, 11:59:04 AM »

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Of the best we can do is greorge hill as a kyrie replacement then I dont wanna even watch the team.

At 33 years old, Hill would not be a Kyrie replacement. He would be a great addition to the back-court rotation. If you don't want to watch the team because they've added a veteran player in the off-season, that's your call.
Forgive us if adding an aging role player in exchange with an all star doesn't excite us.

Where do you get the idea that Hill would be considered a drop-in replacement for Irving? He'll be making about 20% of what Irving would make. He'd be a rotation player, and a very good one.

As for replacing Irving with another star, management will still have to deal with that. Hopefully it won't be a point guard. Relying on your point-guard to be your primary scorer and your ball distributor doesn't generally result in championships.

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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2019, 12:06:13 PM »

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Wait, why would Milwaukee be off the hook for his contract if they waive him? Wouldn't they have to buy him out or something?

Plus he's also not very good

His contract becomes guaranteed on July 2nd if he's not waived. He's an excellent player who is getting older. He'd be a great addition to the back-court rotation. Plus, he played very well with Hayward two years ago.
Ah, didn't know it was partially guaranteed.
 
He's definitely not an excellent player. He torched us, but so did their whole team.
He's old, pretty injury-prone and can't really provide much offence. That Utah team was a while ago, and Hill hasn't sniffed that form since he got injured that season. He is not the answer
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2019, 12:32:07 PM »

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I think it's a good idea if both Kyrie and Rozier are gone.

Smart can start...Hill and a rookie PG or Wannamaker type can round it out....let's not forget GH's PG skills are there to help.

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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2019, 12:41:06 PM »

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For better or worse, if Kyrie does leave, I believe that the franchise will invest in Rozier as our PG of the (near) future. He is still young, incredibly athletic, and has shown flashes of brilliance (and quite the opposite at other times). The youth movement would be in full swing and with Rozier getting a lot more PT, his value would at least be a bit higher based on raw statistics. He is seemingly considerably better as a starter than a bench player, as well.

As for Hill, I could get on board with him as our bench PG. He is a solid defender, an excellent 3pt shooter, and would be a steady veteran presence.

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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2019, 12:51:06 PM »

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For better or worse, if Kyrie does leave, I believe that the franchise will invest in Rozier as our PG of the (near) future. He is still young, incredibly athletic, and has shown flashes of brilliance (and quite the opposite at other times). The youth movement would be in full swing and with Rozier getting a lot more PT, his value would at least be a bit higher based on raw statistics. He is seemingly considerably better as a starter than a bench player, as well.

As for Hill, I could get on board with him as our bench PG. He is a solid defender, an excellent 3pt shooter, and would be a steady veteran presence.

Good point.  You could still add Hill with Rozier here. 

The team deserves an easier year after this one, in which everyone around seemed to suffer, from owners, to players, to coach Stevens.  If you can add a guy who knows how to play the right way (if Hayward liked him then he does) and be a calm vet voice, then do it.   
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2019, 01:19:59 PM »

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Not a bad idea. Hill would provide some leadership, experience and can still play. I'd still stay waive goodbye to Rozier and have Smart be the back-up point.

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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2019, 01:21:06 PM »

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Works for me. Hill always roasts us when we play his teams so may as well get him on our side anyway.