Lauri Markkanen

[CFAN38]

a non celtics thought,


If Lauri is available I would not be surprised to see NO make a hard push to land him. Zion, Ingram and Markkanen could be a very well constructed front court.

[hpantazo]

Markkanen would be an ideal fit for Stevens system. If he can be acquired without giving up any of our core guys its a no-brainer imo. I have no problems moving our picks. We have used enough of our picks the past few years. The picks are also a gamble, Markkanen is a proven NBA starter with potential to be more than that. He would also provide much needed shooting in our lineup.

[csfansince60s]

Like his skill set for us.

Last year there was a lot of talk about him dogging it and shying away when the going got tough. I thought I remembered that the organization and some of the players were pretty p---ed off at him.

Would love to have him, and don’t think it would break the bank to get him.

I give up the Memphis pick for him.

[Csfan1984]

So it looks like Lauri Markkanen is unhappy in Chicago. 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/06/lauri-markkanen-wants-off-bulls-if-they-dont-make-big-changes/

Any chance we could swing a deal for him?  I wouldn't give the Memphis pick because I want a shot at Vernon Carey and if we cant get him I want Isaiah Stewart.  So keeping the 17th pick we still have picks 26 and 30, plus players.

Seems like noise to fill a sports column. The Bulls have a new GM and we should expect a roster shake up. This may or may not involve Markkanen getting traded but I do not suspect the Bulls just move him because he isn't happy.

Its hard to figure a package the Cs could put together that would incite the Bulls. One team that might make sense would be the Hawks. If they do not want to pay Collins maybe they flip him for Markkanen and additional assets.

I kind of agree. Collins is a very close match to a young Karl Malone while Mark is a young Dirk. Depending on the offense you could go either way. 

[smokeablount]

So it looks like Lauri Markkanen is unhappy in Chicago. 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/06/lauri-markkanen-wants-off-bulls-if-they-dont-make-big-changes/

Any chance we could swing a deal for him?  I wouldn't give the Memphis pick because I want a shot at Vernon Carey and if we cant get him I want Isaiah Stewart.  So keeping the 17th pick we still have picks 26 and 30, plus players.

Vernon Carey (who I would not draft) will be available at 30, maybe even 2nd round.  Giving up Memphis pick likely would not jeopardize C's ability to draft him (or Stewart for that matter).

I like LM and think he's a fit here.  The biggest factor to me would be how much he'd affect payroll.

It's a lot to give up, but to land LM I still wouldn't hesitate to offer Memphis & Bucks #1's, Poirer + filler.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

There are only a few franchises that have been as incompetent as the Bulls over the last 5-8 years. I hold very little against the players. I still own a lot of stockin Dunn, Lavine, Carter Jr., Markenan, and more.

[RodyTur10]

Markkanen would be an ideal fit for Stevens system. If he can be acquired without giving up any of our core guys its a no-brainer imo. I have no problems moving our picks. We have used enough of our picks the past few years. The picks are also a gamble, Markkanen is a proven NBA starter with potential to be more than that. He would also provide much needed shooting in our lineup.

Why is Markkanen an ideal fit for (specifically) Stevens' system? Just because he can shoot the 3-ball?

Wouldn't that also make him an ideal fit for LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Utah, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Portland, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Miami, Indiana, Brooklyn and many other teams?

[liam]

Markkanen would be an ideal fit for Stevens system. If he can be acquired without giving up any of our core guys its a no-brainer imo. I have no problems moving our picks. We have used enough of our picks the past few years. The picks are also a gamble, Markkanen is a proven NBA starter with potential to be more than that. He would also provide much needed shooting in our lineup.

Why is Markkanen an ideal fit for (specifically) Stevens' system? Just because he can shoot the 3-ball?

Wouldn't that also make him an ideal fit for LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Utah, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Portland, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Miami, Indiana, Brooklyn and many other teams?

I like Markanen but as far as I've seen ,and correct me if I'm wrong, he's just a one way player with no defense.

[RodyTur10]

Markkanen would be an ideal fit for Stevens system. If he can be acquired without giving up any of our core guys its a no-brainer imo. I have no problems moving our picks. We have used enough of our picks the past few years. The picks are also a gamble, Markkanen is a proven NBA starter with potential to be more than that. He would also provide much needed shooting in our lineup.

Why is Markkanen an ideal fit for (specifically) Stevens' system? Just because he can shoot the 3-ball?

Wouldn't that also make him an ideal fit for LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Utah, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Portland, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Miami, Indiana, Brooklyn and many other teams?

I like Markkanen but as far as I've seen, and correct me if I'm wrong, he's just a one way player with no defense.

That's how I see it. On paper there are minutes available at the '4' and getting Markkanen for the right price might not be a bad thing at all. But when I think of a good fit for the Celtics system, I think of a player that is (more than) solid defensively and effective in switches, hustle guy, can shoot the 3-ball, but also a low usage player who preferably is a great defensive rebounder.

Jonathan Isaac, Maxi Kleber, JaMychal Green and Ersan Ilyasova are examples that would check those boxes.

[liam]

Markkanen would be an ideal fit for Stevens system. If he can be acquired without giving up any of our core guys its a no-brainer imo. I have no problems moving our picks. We have used enough of our picks the past few years. The picks are also a gamble, Markkanen is a proven NBA starter with potential to be more than that. He would also provide much needed shooting in our lineup.

Why is Markkanen an ideal fit for (specifically) Stevens' system? Just because he can shoot the 3-ball?

Wouldn't that also make him an ideal fit for LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Utah, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Portland, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Miami, Indiana, Brooklyn and many other teams?

I like Markkanen but as far as I've seen, and correct me if I'm wrong, he's just a one way player with no defense.

That's how I see it. On paper there are minutes available at the '4' and getting Markkanen for the right price might not be a bad thing at all. But when I think of a good fit for the Celtics system, I think of a player that is (more than) solid defensively and effective in switches, hustle guy, can shoot the 3-ball, but also a low usage player who preferably is a great defensive rebounder.

Jonathan Isaac, Maxi Kleber, JaMychal Green and Ersan Ilyasova are examples that would check those boxes.

I would love Isaac for the Celtics.

[Somebody]

Markkanen would be an ideal fit for Stevens system. If he can be acquired without giving up any of our core guys its a no-brainer imo. I have no problems moving our picks. We have used enough of our picks the past few years. The picks are also a gamble, Markkanen is a proven NBA starter with potential to be more than that. He would also provide much needed shooting in our lineup.

Why is Markkanen an ideal fit for (specifically) Stevens' system? Just because he can shoot the 3-ball?

Wouldn't that also make him an ideal fit for LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Utah, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Portland, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Miami, Indiana, Brooklyn and many other teams?

I like Markkanen but as far as I've seen, and correct me if I'm wrong, he's just a one way player with no defense.

That's how I see it. On paper there are minutes available at the '4' and getting Markkanen for the right price might not be a bad thing at all. But when I think of a good fit for the Celtics system, I think of a player that is (more than) solid defensively and effective in switches, hustle guy, can shoot the 3-ball, but also a low usage player who preferably is a great defensive rebounder.

Jonathan Isaac, Maxi Kleber, JaMychal Green and Ersan Ilyasova are examples that would check those boxes.

I would love Isaac for the Celtics.

Don't we all lol

[gouki88]

Markkanen would be an ideal fit for Stevens system. If he can be acquired without giving up any of our core guys its a no-brainer imo. I have no problems moving our picks. We have used enough of our picks the past few years. The picks are also a gamble, Markkanen is a proven NBA starter with potential to be more than that. He would also provide much needed shooting in our lineup.

Why is Markkanen an ideal fit for (specifically) Stevens' system? Just because he can shoot the 3-ball?

Wouldn't that also make him an ideal fit for LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Utah, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Portland, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Miami, Indiana, Brooklyn and many other teams?

I like Markkanen but as far as I've seen, and correct me if I'm wrong, he's just a one way player with no defense.

That's how I see it. On paper there are minutes available at the '4' and getting Markkanen for the right price might not be a bad thing at all. But when I think of a good fit for the Celtics system, I think of a player that is (more than) solid defensively and effective in switches, hustle guy, can shoot the 3-ball, but also a low usage player who preferably is a great defensive rebounder.

Jonathan Isaac, Maxi Kleber, JaMychal Green and Ersan Ilyasova are examples that would check those boxes.

I would love Isaac for the Celtics.

Don't we all lol

I really hope he can get some good luck health wise. Such an awesome defensive forward

[RodyTur10]

Markkanen would be an ideal fit for Stevens system. If he can be acquired without giving up any of our core guys its a no-brainer imo. I have no problems moving our picks. We have used enough of our picks the past few years. The picks are also a gamble, Markkanen is a proven NBA starter with potential to be more than that. He would also provide much needed shooting in our lineup.

Why is Markkanen an ideal fit for (specifically) Stevens' system? Just because he can shoot the 3-ball?

Wouldn't that also make him an ideal fit for LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Utah, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Portland, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Miami, Indiana, Brooklyn and many other teams?

I like Markkanen but as far as I've seen, and correct me if I'm wrong, he's just a one way player with no defense.

That's how I see it. On paper there are minutes available at the '4' and getting Markkanen for the right price might not be a bad thing at all. But when I think of a good fit for the Celtics system, I think of a player that is (more than) solid defensively and effective in switches, hustle guy, can shoot the 3-ball, but also a low usage player who preferably is a great defensive rebounder.

Jonathan Isaac, Maxi Kleber, JaMychal Green and Ersan Ilyasova are examples that would check those boxes.

I would love Isaac for the Celtics.

Don't we all lol

There have been a lot of trade proposals about Isaac in previous years (also by me). In hindsight, if a deal like Rozier + Morris + picks would have been possible before his breakthrough then it's a shame it didn't happen.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Markkanen would be an ideal fit for Stevens system. If he can be acquired without giving up any of our core guys its a no-brainer imo. I have no problems moving our picks. We have used enough of our picks the past few years. The picks are also a gamble, Markkanen is a proven NBA starter with potential to be more than that. He would also provide much needed shooting in our lineup.

Why is Markkanen an ideal fit for (specifically) Stevens' system? Just because he can shoot the 3-ball?

Wouldn't that also make him an ideal fit for LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Utah, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Portland, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Miami, Indiana, Brooklyn and many other teams?

I like Markanen but as far as I've seen ,and correct me if I'm wrong, he's just a one way player with no defense.

He is not an elite defender, but I think he is better than he is given credit. I think people's biases get confirmed regarding tall white Euros. He's not a stopper, but I think he is a good team defender with some decent versatility when he is locked in.

He can't be a defensive anchor, if that's what you mean, but it's not like he's really bad.

Honestly, I think he would be a great fit in Stevens system. Problem is that I think people misunderstand what position he plays because of his height. He's a natural small forward that plays up a position. He's not a center. However, he has the feet to play defense on the perimeter and the handle to create his own shot. That sets him apart from other 7 foot wings.

Stevens system would be great because most of the time everyone guards everyone anyway. He could play center in Stevens system, but more ideally he would be the 4 next to Brown and Tatum.

[jambr380]

Markkanen would be an ideal fit for Stevens system. If he can be acquired without giving up any of our core guys its a no-brainer imo. I have no problems moving our picks. We have used enough of our picks the past few years. The picks are also a gamble, Markkanen is a proven NBA starter with potential to be more than that. He would also provide much needed shooting in our lineup.

Why is Markkanen an ideal fit for (specifically) Stevens' system? Just because he can shoot the 3-ball?

Wouldn't that also make him an ideal fit for LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Utah, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Portland, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Miami, Indiana, Brooklyn and many other teams?

I like Markkanen but as far as I've seen, and correct me if I'm wrong, he's just a one way player with no defense.

That's how I see it. On paper there are minutes available at the '4' and getting Markkanen for the right price might not be a bad thing at all. But when I think of a good fit for the Celtics system, I think of a player that is (more than) solid defensively and effective in switches, hustle guy, can shoot the 3-ball, but also a low usage player who preferably is a great defensive rebounder.

Jonathan Isaac, Maxi Kleber, JaMychal Green and Ersan Ilyasova are examples that would check those boxes.

I would love Isaac for the Celtics.

Don't we all lol

There have been a lot of trade proposals about Isaac in previous years (also by me). In hindsight, if a deal like Rozier + Morris + picks would have been possible before his breakthrough then it's a shame it didn't happen.

Yeah, I was all aboard this Terry for Isaac trade going back to May 2018 (and then I really started to push the issue that summer). In hindsight, any Rozier trade would have been a good one in Summer 2018 as the next season was a flop and then we essentially just let him go (we could have figured out Kemba without him). Oh well, I'm sure there are a lot of trades out there GMs had wished they'd made. Luckily we still have a fantastic young core moving forward.

As for Lauri, it would be great to bring him in if he doesn't cost much, but he is also going into a contract year so if he performs well or even decently, then he will command a big payday. And, yes, I would absolutely love to bring in Collins from ATL, but, like Isaac, that ship has also probably sailed.