This team proves that talent alone don't win you a series

[mr. dee]

Lots of guys here could be starters and average 20+ on a team, but a collection of talent don't win you rings if you don't have the chemistry. You can have 5 prime Carmelo Anthony and they still wouldn't matter.

Talent is good only if they are the right fit with a team.

On paper, we are much better than the Bucks because we have 3 players who were All-Stars not too long ago.

[keevsnick]

Lots of guys here could be starters and average 20+ on a team, but a collection of talent don't win you rings if you don't have the chemistry. You can have 5 prime Carmelo Anthony and they still wouldn't matter.

Talent is good only if they are the right fit with a team.

On paper, we are much better than the Bucks because we have 3 players who were All-Stars not too long ago.

Well except Hayward is a shell of his former self. Even in the stretches he's "played well" it was hot shooting on low usage. And the Bucks do have the best player in the series. But in general I don't think you're wrong, we are less than the sum of our parts.

[mr. dee]

Lots of guys here could be starters and average 20+ on a team, but a collection of talent don't win you rings if you don't have the chemistry. You can have 5 prime Carmelo Anthony and they still wouldn't matter.

Talent is good only if they are the right fit with a team.

On paper, we are much better than the Bucks because we have 3 players who were All-Stars not too long ago.

Well except Hayward is a shell of his former self. Even in the stretches he's "played well" it was hot shooting on low usage.

And that's on chemistry problems. If Brad run the offense primary on him, he will take more shots but so far he is only taking 5 or less per game.

[keevsnick]

Lots of guys here could be starters and average 20+ on a team, but a collection of talent don't win you rings if you don't have the chemistry. You can have 5 prime Carmelo Anthony and they still wouldn't matter.

Talent is good only if they are the right fit with a team.

On paper, we are much better than the Bucks because we have 3 players who were All-Stars not too long ago.

Well except Hayward is a shell of his former self. Even in the stretches he's "played well" it was hot shooting on low usage.

And that's on chemistry problems. If Brad run the offense primary on him, he will take more shots but so far he is only taking 5 or less per game.

See I don't think so, sure shot quantity is part of the problem. The far bigger problem is he has lost explosiveness, he gets stone walled on drives by guys like Brook Lopez and when he des get inside is afraid to shot it because he can't explode for a finish anymore. If you forced him up to say 12 or more shots a game I think his efficiency would plummet.

[Walker Wiggle]

You’re right. Talent alone doesn’t win you a series. What wins you a series is a freak of nature athlete who miraculously grows several inches and puts on 50 pounds of muscle after you draft him in the middle of the first round.

[gouki88]

Lots of guys here could be starters and average 20+ on a team, but a collection of talent don't win you rings if you don't have the chemistry. You can have 5 prime Carmelo Anthony and they still wouldn't matter.

Talent is good only if they are the right fit with a team.

On paper, we are much better than the Bucks because we have 3 players who were All-Stars not too long ago.

Well except Hayward is a shell of his former self. Even in the stretches he's "played well" it was hot shooting on low usage.

And that's on chemistry problems. If Brad run the offense primary on him, he will take more shots but so far he is only taking 5 or less per game.

See I don't think so, sure shot quantity is part of the problem. The far bigger problem is he has lost explosiveness, he gets stone walled on drives by guys like Brook Lopez and when he des get inside is afraid to shot it because he can't explode for a finish anymore. If you forced him up to say 12 or more shots a game I think his efficiency would plummet.

You say Brook Lopez as if he isn't #2 in the league in BPG. I blame Stevens a lot

[Tr1boy]

Lots of guys here could be starters and average 20+ on a team, but a collection of talent don't win you rings if you don't have the chemistry. You can have 5 prime Carmelo Anthony and they still wouldn't matter.

Talent is good only if they are the right fit with a team.

On paper, we are much better than the Bucks because we have 3 players who were All-Stars not too long ago.

Exactly

I expect celts to build off Tatum, brown, rozier, smart etc plus draft picks

Hayward should be close to 100 percent as well

[mr. dee]

You’re right. Talent alone doesn’t win you a series. What wins you a series is a freak of nature athlete who miraculously grows several inches and puts on 50 pounds of muscle after you draft him in the middle of the first round.

Bring back Jason Kidd as a coach, replace his shooters with JR Smith or Nick Young and his 50 lb muscles wouldn't matter.

Hell, OKC had 3 MVP caliber players at one point and they didn't won any lick.

[SparzWizard]

You’re right. Talent alone doesn’t win you a series. What wins you a series is a freak of nature athlete who miraculously grows several inches and puts on 50 pounds of muscle after you draft him in the middle of the first round.

Bring back Jason Kidd as a coach, replace his shooters with JR Smith or Nick Young and his 50 lb muscles wouldn't matter.

Hell, OKC had 3 MVP caliber players at one point and they didn't won any lick.

That was before each of them peaked and Scott Brooks was a joke

[droopdog7]

I think what this team proves is that many overestimated their talent.  One top 20ish player, another top 30ish, and some youngsters that are not ready does not a championship team make.

[mr. dee]

You’re right. Talent alone doesn’t win you a series. What wins you a series is a freak of nature athlete who miraculously grows several inches and puts on 50 pounds of muscle after you draft him in the middle of the first round.

Bring back Jason Kidd as a coach, replace his shooters with JR Smith or Nick Young and his 50 lb muscles wouldn't matter.

Hell, OKC had 3 MVP caliber players at one point and they didn't won any lick.

That was before each of them peaked and Scott Brooks was a joke

Exactly. I'm not saying Brad is as bad as Brooks, but Jaylen and Jayson have better opportunities to be a primary option on other teams and show their potentials as All-Star players or maybe even MVP caliber players. They just couldn't find opportunities here because there are too many chefs on the kitchen.

[seancally]

I think what this team proves is that many overestimated their talent.  One top 20ish player, another top 30ish, and some youngsters that are not ready does not a championship team make.

Yup. Our (and the media’s) high expectations are part of the cause for the disappointment this season. But really those were unrealistic expectations when you factor in what we now know:

- Tatum had his rookie season this season, not last season
- Irving is a weird dude and can be a distraction, and needs to work on his off-court game
- Hayward needed a fulll year of in-game recovery to get to where he is now - and has a ways to go still. THIS point is huge. This team was supposed be Kyrie’s AND Hayward’s. The latter half is missing. That’s enormous.

[Chris22]

The Bucks have more talent than we do.

[LarBrd33]

This team proves that they don’t have nearly as much talent as some fans believe. 

1-star team.  49 wins and a first round exit makes sense.

[LarBrd33]

The Bucks have more talent than we do.

yes.  And they are proof that talent alone will win you a series.