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Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2019, 01:06:27 AM »

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If the Celtics were planning to give 27 million per year to one of either Brogdon or Russell, I'd give it to Brogdon. 

But financially I think matching Rozier at much lower cost and watching him rebuild his value is smarter.

I'd also rather draft NAW and hope he can be Brogdonish by his second year...

If Rozier is gone, I'd like: 

Smart, NAW
Brown, NAW, Smart
Tatum, Brown, Hayward
PJ Washington, Hayward
Baynes, Williams, Kabengele

Probably won't be able to get both Washington and NAW in this draft...


If Brogdon signed:

Starters: 
Brogdon (absolutely starter quality PG and perfect fit for C's...just too pricey)
Brown
Tatum
Washington
Baynes

Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2019, 01:07:42 AM »

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If the Celtics were planning to give 27 million per year to one of either Brogdon or Russell, I'd give it to Brogdon. 

But financially I think matching Rozier at much lower cost and watching him rebuild his value is smarter.

I'd also rather draft NAW and hope he can be Brogdonish by his second year...

If Rozier is gone, I'd like: 

Smart, NAW
Brown, NAW, Smart
Tatum, Brown, Hayward
PJ Washington, Hayward
Baynes, Williams, Kabengele

Probably won't be able to get both Washington and NAW in this draft...

What a depressing starting 5  :'(


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Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2019, 01:10:04 AM »

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If the Celtics were planning to give 27 million per year to one of either Brogdon or Russell, I'd give it to Brogdon. 

But financially I think matching Rozier at much lower cost and watching him rebuild his value is smarter.

I'd also rather draft NAW and hope he can be Brogdonish by his second year...

If Rozier is gone, I'd like: 

Smart, NAW
Brown, NAW, Smart
Tatum, Brown, Hayward
PJ Washington, Hayward
Baynes, Williams, Kabengele

Probably won't be able to get both Washington and NAW in this draft...

What a depressing starting 5  :'(

We all will miss Horford...TP for your blues.

Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2019, 01:16:17 AM »

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russell is a far worse defender to start with. that will drive many of us crazy. at least kyrie tried ...most times. the same is not true for russell.



Kyrie tried at defense in the early part of the year, but his effort level drastically reduced as the year went on. His D was as porous as ever at the end of the season and playoffs.

Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2019, 01:20:44 AM »

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russell is a far worse defender to start with. that will drive many of us crazy. at least kyrie tried ...most times. the same is not true for russell.



Kyrie tried at defense in the early part of the year, but his effort level drastically reduced as the year went on. His D was as porous as ever at the end of the season and playoffs.
I don't know how many more point guards who have the tools to be good defenders but aren't because of issues of effort I can deal with.
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Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2019, 01:22:57 AM »

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If the Celtics were planning to give 27 million per year to one of either Brogdon or Russell, I'd give it to Brogdon. 

But financially I think matching Rozier at much lower cost and watching him rebuild his value is smarter.

I'd also rather draft NAW and hope he can be Brogdonish by his second year...

If Rozier is gone, I'd like: 

Smart, NAW
Brown, NAW, Smart
Tatum, Brown, Hayward
PJ Washington, Hayward
Baynes, Williams, Kabengele

Probably won't be able to get both Washington and NAW in this draft...


If Brogdon signed:

Starters: 
Brogdon (absolutely starter quality PG and perfect fit for C's...just too pricey)
Brown
Tatum
Washington
Baynes
so Hayward is now a $140 million 3rd stringer

Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2019, 01:27:48 AM »

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If the Celtics were planning to give 27 million per year to one of either Brogdon or Russell, I'd give it to Brogdon. 

But financially I think matching Rozier at much lower cost and watching him rebuild his value is smarter.

I'd also rather draft NAW and hope he can be Brogdonish by his second year...

If Rozier is gone, I'd like: 

Smart, NAW
Brown, NAW, Smart
Tatum, Brown, Hayward
PJ Washington, Hayward
Baynes, Williams, Kabengele

Probably won't be able to get both Washington and NAW in this draft...


If Brogdon signed:

Starters: 
Brogdon (absolutely starter quality PG and perfect fit for C's...just too pricey)
Brown
Tatum
Washington
Baynes
so Hayward is now a $140 million 3rd stringer

With enough milkshakes this summer he could start at PF.

Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2019, 02:03:34 AM »

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You gotta think the Celtics are less likely to retain Rozier if Horford leaves.

In theory you keep Rozier because you retain an asset as an over-the-cap team. Now, signing him actually prevents you from acquiring better players.

Looking for some positives...

Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2019, 07:16:34 AM »

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Brogdon > D'Angelo Russell

I don't want to spend max bucks on Brogdon but I would much rather do that then spend it on Russell.

Russell is a high volume low efficiency player. The type of guy who puts up stats on bad to mediocre teams. He is a no defense guard. In other words, a stat padder.

Brogdon is a strong defender. High efficiency player. Team player.

Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2019, 09:48:19 PM »

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Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2019, 09:56:11 PM »

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Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2019, 09:58:59 PM »

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Who or what is "looney"?
This made me chuckle
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C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2019, 10:03:43 PM »

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He averaged 19.4 ppg against Philly in the playoffs.

Kid is all over the place fighting for his team mates...couldn't help but root for him.

Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2019, 10:38:53 PM »

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I would not have an issue with Russell if they went that route. He’s in the same age group as Brown/Tatum so he fits the rebuild. Stevens also has this thing with scoring guards and getting the most out of them.

Re: Surely the best use of the expected 27M is D'Angelo Russell
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2019, 10:56:38 PM »

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If Ainge swaps Irving, for Russell and Russell rains those ridiculous threes like he did to the Celtics, that to me is worth $27M.