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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #225 on: February 05, 2018, 08:00:04 AM »

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You really believed that Russians would allow the "Patriots" to win it all?  :laugh:
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #226 on: February 05, 2018, 08:12:17 AM »

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You really believed that Russians would allow the "Patriots" to win it all?  :laugh:
Especially when they were playing against the "Eagles" :P



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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #227 on: February 05, 2018, 08:20:11 AM »

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You really believed that Russians would allow the "Patriots" to win it all?  :laugh:
Especially when they were playing against the "Eagles" :P


Nice value added - very visual TP!
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #228 on: February 05, 2018, 08:47:32 AM »

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It's ok not to be a homer apologist sometimes.

Except I'm not a Pats fan, and don't really care about Brady at all.  He had a great game. I guess he maybe could have made a few more plays, but the loss is not on him in any way.

im not a Pats fan either but i agree , he had a great game and from a neutral standpoint,  i thought it was a great game .   Both teams playe like champions.  Both QBs were fantasic .  Dead on the money passing.   Pats could have won if that guys finger tips don't jar the ball from Bradys hands on that game winning drive .  Amazing game.

Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #229 on: February 05, 2018, 09:13:21 AM »

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As weird as it is to say, I don’t think either team played that poorly on defense. The offenses just made plays.

It was a spectacular game, one of the best start to finish that I’ve seen.


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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #230 on: February 05, 2018, 09:22:53 AM »

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As weird as it is to say, I don’t think either team played that poorly on defense. The offenses just made plays.

It was a spectacular game, one of the best start to finish that I’ve seen.
Pata couldn't tackle or over, I thought.
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #231 on: February 05, 2018, 09:55:24 AM »

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In the meanwhile, Brandon Browner went off on the Pats coaching brass for benching Butler. Hightower liked the post.

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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #232 on: February 05, 2018, 10:03:18 AM »

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Right, I really don't get it.  There must have been some incident ...
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #233 on: February 05, 2018, 10:06:27 AM »

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Right, I really don't get it.  There must have been some incident ...
According to Rowe, he was told that he was starting right before the game, and he acknowledged that Butler practiced in those mythical "packages" that Belichick/Patricia referred to during the entire week.

Butler did fly in late because he supposedly had the flu, but I doubt that has someone to do with it.

I understand that Bill always values sending a message over winning one single game. However, when  said game is your 40-year-old star QB's potentially last SB, perhaps it's time to apply a little "situational football" decision-making?

edit: Correction. Rowe reportedly said he practiced as CB2 the entire week, and apparently Butler was still under the weather as late as Thursday. Still, however, he was apparently well enough to get ST snaps, and I don't see how playing Bademosi/Chung over him in nickel packages is the better football decision. Certainly not after it has become clear that your defense is having issues closing down after the catch and tackling (coincidentally, both of these are Butler's strengths).

Butler played 97% of defensive snaps during the regular season. That pretty much means he was on the field at all times, regardless of matchups. I guess he was good enough back then?
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #234 on: February 05, 2018, 10:18:34 AM »

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In the meanwhile, Brandon Browner went off on the Pats coaching brass for benching Butler. Hightower liked the post.



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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #235 on: February 05, 2018, 10:19:43 AM »

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Right, I really don't get it.  There must have been some incident ...
According to Rowe, he was told that he was starting right before the game, and he acknowledged that Butler practiced in those mythical "packages" that Belichick/Patricia referred to during the entire week.

Butler did fly in late because he supposedly had the flu, but I doubt that has someone to do with it.

I understand that Bill always values sending a message over winning one single game. However, when  said game is your 40-year-old star QB's potentially last SB, perhaps it's time to apply a little "situational football" decision-making?

Sounds very patriarchal of Bill.  Maybe I'm overly fixated on it, but that decision could've cost them Tom's last SB.  So unless Butler committed a double homicide, I'm not seeing it.
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #236 on: February 05, 2018, 10:26:46 AM »

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Right, I really don't get it.  There must have been some incident ...
According to Rowe, he was told that he was starting right before the game, and he acknowledged that Butler practiced in those mythical "packages" that Belichick/Patricia referred to during the entire week.

Butler did fly in late because he supposedly had the flu, but I doubt that has someone to do with it.

I understand that Bill always values sending a message over winning one single game. However, when  said game is your 40-year-old star QB's potentially last SB, perhaps it's time to apply a little "situational football" decision-making?

Sounds very patriarchal of Bill.  Maybe I'm overly fixated on it, but that decision could've cost them Tom's last SB.  So unless Butler committed a double homicide, I'm not seeing it.
well he played in the game on special teams so it couldn't have been that bad.
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #237 on: February 05, 2018, 10:27:59 AM »

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Right, I really don't get it.  There must have been some incident ...
According to Rowe, he was told that he was starting right before the game, and he acknowledged that Butler practiced in those mythical "packages" that Belichick/Patricia referred to during the entire week.

Butler did fly in late because he supposedly had the flu, but I doubt that has someone to do with it.

I understand that Bill always values sending a message over winning one single game. However, when  said game is your 40-year-old star QB's potentially last SB, perhaps it's time to apply a little "situational football" decision-making?

Sounds very patriarchal of Bill.  Maybe I'm overly fixated on it, but that decision could've cost them Tom's last SB.  So unless Butler committed a double homicide, I'm not seeing it.
There is no explanation why a DB who played close to every defensive snap during the regular season suddenly became a situational/matchup liability in the SB.
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #238 on: February 05, 2018, 10:31:02 AM »

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well he played in the game on special teams so it couldn't have been that bad.
He had to, I guess. Had to keep Johnson Bademosi fresh so that he can miss tackles in nickel packages.  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Super Bowl LII: NE vs. PHI
« Reply #239 on: February 05, 2018, 10:38:12 AM »

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The only think I can think of....and I don't like this theory at all....is that BB knew he wasn't bringing him back and didn't want to be in a situation where it seemed he HAD to bring him back. But that presumes that Bill would be putting the future ahead of the Super Bowl. I don't like this theory, yet I could sorta see Bill maybe trying it.

That said...he could have made a half time adjustment. Or brought him in fresh in the 4th