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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: vjcsmoke on May 20, 2018, 01:29:54 AM
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The Celtics are still up 2-1. The Celtics still own home court.
The Celtics will NOT be this terrible in Game 4. The Cavs will not be this RED HOT from 3 in game 4.
In other words once the teams equalize to their normal levels, I expect the Celtics to put up a much better fight in Game 4. Maybe we don't win it, but it's going to be a lot closer, and I expect the Celtics to make the Cavs earn it this time.
Poor offensive actions, lack of patience, lack of good sets, poor outside shots. That is not characteristic of the Celtics team we have been seeing all post season.
Don't get too high, or too low. Celtics were never going to sweep the Cavs. But they still have a [dang] good chance to win this series. We are on to Game 4. Brad, please draw us up a new genius game plan. Players, execute crisply, play with heads up and bold hearts, and most importantly DO YOUR JOB!
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I had a feeling, even told my wife, get ready to be blown out. I mean I was hopeful, but you knew it was coming.
Next game will be huge. If we can get that one, it's going to be tough for the Cavs to win in Boston. Problem is we are so young, it might start getting to guys.
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The Celtics are still up 2-1. The Celtics still own home court.
The Celtics will NOT be this terrible in Game 4. The Cavs will not be this RED HOT from 3 in game 4.
In other words once the teams equalize to their normal levels, I expect the Celtics to put up a much better fight in Game 4. Maybe we don't win it, but it's going to be a lot closer, and I expect the Celtics to make the Cavs earn it this time.
Poor offensive actions, lack of patience, lack of good sets, poor outside shots. That is not characteristic of the Celtics team we have been seeing all post season.
Don't get too high, or too low. Celtics were never going to sweep the Cavs. But they still have a [dang] good chance to win this series. We are on to Game 4. Brad, please draw us up a new genius game plan. Players, execute crisply, play with heads up and bold hearts, and most importantly DO YOUR JOB!
While I really hope that you're right about both of those points, losing a game by 30 points essentially means that Cleveland is out of the box, imo, and as a result they believe, now. Had this been an actual game I might feel slightly differently, but, man was that atrocious. Ugh.
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I had a feeling, even told my wife, get ready to be blown out. I mean I was hopeful, but you knew it was coming.
Next game will be huge. If we can get that one, it's going to be tough for the Cavs to win in Boston. Problem is we are so young, it might start getting to guys.
Yup I knew it get like they were getting blown out before game started
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We shot the 3 ball worse on better looks. Can’t win like that with two 3pt shooting teams. Guys have to make their open shots and Korver and JR won’t go 7 for 8 on contested 3s again. They also called a ton of fouls, which is not good for our physical play style.
I expect next game to be a dogfight where we come out ahead. LeBron is getting gassed midway through 2nd every game. If he can’t blow us out in 1.5 quarters, we will win.
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No panic here. They've earned more than enough credit from me by virtue of the way they played all through the postseason, and in fact the season. They've shown that they can bounce back from adversity. Game 3 is over, figure out what they did wrong and fix it, and on to Game 4 should be the mentality. It's all about mental strength and fortitude, and they need to find some of that so that they can execute the fundamentals well. Brad needs to prepare them for Game 4 better than he did Game 3. We need to start better - after seeing the first few possessions we had tonight I had a feeling it was going to be a long night.
The only thing that was disheartening about tonight was the fact that they got blown out and didn't put up any resistance. It's one thing to make Cleveland earn a win, and Cleveland certainly played much better than they have been thus far - but we had so many self inflicted wounds tonight and we didn't make Cleveland work at all.
On the plus side, it can't get any worse than this in terms of a game (39% from the floor, 27% from 3, outrebounded 45-34). They need to get some sleep and get themselves mentally ready for Monday.
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This is LeBron James we are talking about. He is due for another 40-point performance, but in front of his own fans.
Get ready for a grueling Game 4.
Although if we do somehow end up winning Game 4, I fear of the infamous 3-1 lead. LBJ is no stranger to that, and with his experience he could still will the Cavs to 3 straight wins.
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I mean there is literally nothing to worry about, you know they will play better at home and is due to have a on-fire night as well as us sucking, so it's predictable.
It's actually a good news for it to be a blow out because now they will relax and go cold while we will go hot.
Just get next game done, and even if you fail again you still have 2 home game and one away opportunity.
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Why hasn’t there been a jinx thread to spur the Cs to victory.
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This is LeBron James we are talking about. He is due for another 40-point performance, but in front of his own fans.
Get ready for a grueling Game 4.
Although if we do somehow end up winning Game 4, I fear of the infamous 3-1 lead. LBJ is no stranger to that, and with his experience he could still will the Cavs to 3 straight wins.
True at the end of the day we’re playing with house money. If we had one of Kyrie or Gordon we prob win this series comfortably
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I fully expected this to happen for them to win a game in CLE.
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Boston has now been written off in their series by the national media
Most of the media has now forgotten just how bad the Cavs were in games 1 and 2
I expect a lot of Cavs in six type of hot takes
Problem is the three days rest saved the Cavs. They were dead. Now they have life and confidence.
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I truly did not expect them to beat us with 30 pts.
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The Celtics are still up 2-1. The Celtics still own home court.
The Celtics will NOT be this terrible in Game 4. The Cavs will not be this RED HOT from 3 in game 4.
In other words once the teams equalize to their normal levels, I expect the Celtics to put up a much better fight in Game 4. Maybe we don't win it, but it's going to be a lot closer, and I expect the Celtics to make the Cavs earn it this time.
Poor offensive actions, lack of patience, lack of good sets, poor outside shots. That is not characteristic of the Celtics team we have been seeing all post season.
Don't get too high, or too low. Celtics were never going to sweep the Cavs. But they still have a [dang] good chance to win this series. We are on to Game 4. Brad, please draw us up a new genius game plan. Players, execute crisply, play with heads up and bold hearts, and most importantly DO YOUR JOB!
While I really hope that you're right about both of those points, losing a game by 30 points essentially means that Cleveland is out of the box, imo, and as a result they believe, now. Had this been an actual game I might feel slightly differently, but, man was that atrocious. Ugh.
But we won the first game by 25, up buy 28 at one point. Last year we got blown out by 44 on our own home court, and we went into their house and won. The Cavs could also get over confident, and lose some focus which mean we can sneak in a win.
Our issue was we were sluggish on D and we kept double teaming Lebron. Thats not how you beat them. LEt Lebron get go off in the fist, he gets tired out quickly. Play off, let him take jumpers, not drive and kick. Cavs got too many open looks, and dunks and that wasn't anything they were doing better, we just were sucking it up last night. If we bring the aggression of game one, it could knock them back. They need to play tomorrows game like it's game 7. If they lose, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs win the two after.
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Cavs last year blew Boston out in the first two games and lost game 3
Now Boston is following that script
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I never thought the Celtics would sweep Cleveland. The C's are a young team, and playing on the road for a young team can be a challenge. Especially without their number 1 and 2 scoring option.
The Cavs will seek their level in the coming games.
Remember...it's house money!
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I never thought the Celtics would sweep Cleveland. The C's are a young team, and playing on the road for a young team can be a challenge. Especially without their number 1 and 2 scoring option.
Same here, TP, for saying what I was thinking.
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Brad will have them prepared. Perhaps they read too much of the newspaper clippings. Also didnt help that they put Brown in foul trouble early and he had to sit. He was the guy who allowed us to withstand Lebrons onslaught in game 2.
1. Celts were abysmal on defense. I dont expect that to continue. Brad will drill into them what they did wrong.
2. Celtics shot abysmal while the Cavs shot a ridiculous percentage on 3's. I dont see that continuing.
3. george hill more than doubled his shot total from games 1 and 2 combined. I dont see him/JR being as consistent as they were in game 3.
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Why hasn’t there been a jinx thread to spur the Cs to victory.
ok i won't make a thread but here is a post for you. hope this helps!
CAVS In 6!
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Brad will have them prepared. Perhaps they read too much of the newspaper clippings. Also didnt help that they put Brown in foul trouble early and he had to sit. He was the guy who allowed us to withstand Lebrons onslaught in game 2.
1. Celts were abysmal on defense. I dont expect that to continue. Brad will drill into them what they did wrong.
2. Celtics shot abysmal while the Cavs shot a ridiculous percentage on 3's. I dont see that continuing.
3. george hill more than doubled his shot total from games 1 and 2 combined. I dont see him/JR being as consistent as they were in game 3.
stop relying on jays and attack the rim like we did in games 1 and 2
make lebron take jays and keep him from hoop
cover other guys and we win.
we did the above in our wins and NOT in our losses. pretty simple.
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I'm not panicked because we were never supposed to make it this far with this many injuries anyways. And even just in terms of winning this series, I won't panic because it's common for teams that go up 2-0, especially when doing so in convincing fashion, to have a let down game.
Now, if the C's show up in game 4 with the same lack of effort and intensity they did in game 3, I'll be concerned about the prospects of winning this series. But I won't panic, coming as far we have is already a significant accomplishment.
As a final note, when these playoffs started the only thing I cared about was seeing how Tatum, Brown, and Rozier played in high pressure situations. Tatum and Brown have proven to me they are the real deal and must be held on to at all costs. Rozier has proven to be an above average starter and someone I'd love to keep, but have come to accept that if we do decide to forgo trading him, we'll likely lose him to free agency.
Regardless, I'm satisfied with what I've seen in these playoffs. And when Kyrie and Gordon return healthy next season the rest of the NBA better look the heck out.
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I have said in other threads that this is more about how the Cavs play than how the Celtics play. People seem to forget that the Cavs swept a very good Toronto team. SWEPT! The narrative following this was that Toronto choked rather than boy, these Cavs are good. This is understandable after how the Cavs played against Indiana.
So we got two games in Boston against the Cavs team that went 7 against the Pacers and now one game in Cleveland against the team that swept the Raptors. If the team that swept the Raptors continues to show up, the Celtics are in trouble. This isn't about schemes or driving to the hoop more, that Cavs team is just better than this Celtics team. But I just don't know what to expect from the Cavs.
Maybe after seeing Houston beat GSW, the Cavs decided hey, maybe we can win in the finals after all so what the heck, let's actually try to win this series. Interesting to see how long that lasts.
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TP for this thread. ;D
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I think it's going 7. I don't know who is going to win -- my gut still says LeBron -- but I think it's going 7.
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these Cavs are good.
No, they aren't. They're a poorly coached team with very few plus defenders. They have LeBron and they have Kevin Love. Apart from that, mostly trash.
However, the Celts are a young, inexperienced team with inconsistent shooters that tend to perform poorly on the road. Even at home, the Celts aren't a great offensive team by any means. So that spells a seven game series where the Celts defend home court and it comes down to whether LeBron can dominate enough in a do-or-die game on the road.
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these Cavs are good.
No, they aren't. They're a poorly coached team with very few plus defenders. They have LeBron and they have Kevin Love. Apart from that, mostly trash.
However, the Celts are a young, inexperienced team with inconsistent shooters that tend to perform poorly on the road. Even at home, the Celts aren't a great offensive team by any means. So that spells a seven game series where the Celts defend home court and it comes down to whether LeBron can dominate enough in a do-or-die game on the road.
Was the team that swept the Raptors not good or is Toronto just a bad team (that won 59 games with a +7.8 Diff)? Just bad timing? Bad match ups? Raptors choked? Cavs defend fine enough when they want to as they showed last night and in the Toronto series.
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Why hasn’t there been a jinx thread to spur the Cs to victory.
ok i won't make a thread but here is a post for you. hope this helps!
CAVS In 6!
No no no no...that is not the jinx. Remember in the first two series threads popped up about Cs chances in the next round before we clinched the series.
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I think it's going 7. I don't know who is going to win -- my gut still says LeBron -- but I think it's going 7.
I am close to that, I think it is either going 5 or 7. Either we somehow win game 4 in Clev and then come home and win game 5. Or, neither team is going to win on the other's floor and it will go 7.
I know we got blitzed in game 3, but I think our guys can rebound from a poor performance and have a chance in game 4.
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Fully expected everything that happened last night. After the Celtics won the first 2 games, my hope of getting one in Cleveland always hinged on game 4 or 6.
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Was the team that swept the Raptors not good or is Toronto just a bad team (that won 59 games with a +7.8 Diff)? Just bad timing? Bad match ups? Raptors choked? Cavs defend fine enough when they want to as they showed last night and in the Toronto series.
Toronto is a great regular season team, a mediocre playoff team, and utter trash when they go against LeBron (i.e. they fall apart mentally).
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these Cavs are good.
No, they aren't. They're a poorly coached team with very few plus defenders. They have LeBron and they have Kevin Love. Apart from that, mostly trash.
However, the Celts are a young, inexperienced team with inconsistent shooters that tend to perform poorly on the road. Even at home, the Celts aren't a great offensive team by any means. So that spells a seven game series where the Celts defend home court and it comes down to whether LeBron can dominate enough in a do-or-die game on the road.
Was the team that swept the Raptors not good or is Toronto just a bad team (that won 59 games with a +7.8 Diff)? Just bad timing? Bad match ups? Raptors choked? Cavs defend fine enough when they want to as they showed last night and in the Toronto series.
TOR has a history of choking in the playoffs. In the last 5 seasons, they've always been a top 4 seed:
- Lost twice in the 1st round (Nets and Wizards), twice in the 2nd round, and once in the ECF.
- Swept 3 times including once in the 1st round. Have never swept a series or won in 5 games.
- Has lost to 3 lower seeds. Has never beat a higher seed.
Derozen had his worst three plus/minus games of the season in the last 3 games in the 2018 playoffs against CLE: -22, -23, and -29. Lowry on average has played well below his season's performances in TOR's playoffs over the years.
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Was the team that swept the Raptors not good or is Toronto just a bad team (that won 59 games with a +7.8 Diff)? Just bad timing? Bad match ups? Raptors choked? Cavs defend fine enough when they want to as they showed last night and in the Toronto series.
Toronto is a great regular season team, a mediocre playoff team, and utter trash when they go against LeBron (i.e. they fall apart mentally).
I think it is a gross oversimplification to rationalize CLE sweeping TOR by saying that TOR just fell apart and not acknowledge that CLE can be a very good team when they want to be.
I don't know which CLE team is going to show up on any given night or for any given series but when they do show up, they are a formidable team relative to the current Celtics.