Time to think about trading Tatum?

[Roy H.]

Tatum went from “centerpiece for Anthony Davis” to “he could probably get us Thomas Bryant” in 10 months?

[GreenFaith1819]

Tatum went from “centerpiece for Anthony Davis” to “he could probably get us Thomas Bryant” in 10 months?

Thomas Bryant is a bit of a stretch IMO - but Steven Adams?

Sign me up - especially if JT can't shoot any better than this.

[Jvalin]

I would never do the trade the OP is proposing. Tatum is a premium asset. If we trade him, we can get a better return than Bryant+Bertans. Btw, the C's need a defensive Center who can play off the ball on offense. Bryant is far too slow. He's not a defensive Center.

Having said that, I don't think Tatum should be untouchable. Hate to say it, but he reminds me more and more of Carmelo. Never liked Melo's game. I'm not a fan of Tatum's game either.

- ISO-heavy style
- Ball stopper
- He takes far too many contested shots. Plenty of them are long 2s as well
- Not overly athletic + average length --> has problems finishing over length in the paint

Don't get me wrong, Carmelo is a 10-time All-Star. All I'm saying is that I don't like the way Tatum plays the game, not that he ain't a talented player.

Anyway, here are 2 ideas of mine. Feel free to crucify me cause I dare to propose a Tatum trade.

1) Tatum for Jaren Jackson Jr.

Problem is, the Grizzlies have zero incentive to trade JJJ. I bet they would ask for their pick back as well. Not sure whether I'd be willing to go that far.

2) Tatum for Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

I'm fairly confident that he would be a good fit next to Kemba (just like he's proving to be a good fit next to CP3).

Kemba - SGA - Brown - Hayward - Theis

We 'd have 3 willing passers/facilitators in the starting lineup in Kemba-SGA-Hayward. The ball movement would be amazing.

For what it's worth, Tatum is from St Louis. Both Memphis and Oklahoma City are fairly close to St Louis. It's possible that they would feel confident about re-signing him long term (after his 2nd contract runs up).

[Fafnir]

Tatum went from “centerpiece for Anthony Davis” to “he could probably get us Thomas Bryant” in 10 months?

Thomas Bryant is a bit of a stretch IMO - but Steven Adams?

Sign me up - especially if JT can't shoot any better than this.

Adams is a less valuable asset than Bryant!

Better player, but he's paid a lot of money and is on the decline.

[Monkhouse]

Tatum went from “centerpiece for Anthony Davis” to “he could probably get us Thomas Bryant” in 10 months?

Thomas Bryant is a bit of a stretch IMO - but Steven Adams?

Sign me up - especially if JT can't shoot any better than this.

Really?

[Fafnir]

I really don't get where people think Jayson is some sort of heavy ISO heavy player. He's middle of the pack amongst wing scorers.

[GreenFaith1819]

Tatum went from “centerpiece for Anthony Davis” to “he could probably get us Thomas Bryant” in 10 months?

Thomas Bryant is a bit of a stretch IMO - but Steven Adams?

Sign me up - especially if JT can't shoot any better than this.

Adams is a less valuable asset than Bryant!

Better player, but he's paid a lot of money and is on the decline.

And Kemba Walker is not on the decline? Gordon Hayward is nearing the end of his prime...

I think those two are our best players.

Steven Adams window matches up better with Kemba and GH.

How about Marc Gasol? He defended Embiid quite well last post-season.

To ME - the GSW Small Ball model ain't working any more. I understand that Danny has to be prudent and make wise choices but I really believe we're going to have to shake some things up to improve.

I "know" it's early - I get that. I hope I'm wrong. But I'm getting tired of the formula not working.

I'm feeling like that cute old lady from those old Wendy's commercials -



I'm open to this team acquiring more "Beef" in the future if needed - and other than Smart, Kemba or GH we may be looking at one of the young stallions departing.

Again - I hope I'm wrong.

[Fafnir]

Steven Adams doesn't even defend Embiid very well.....

*sigh*

[gouki88]

Tatum went from “centerpiece for Anthony Davis” to “he could probably get us Thomas Bryant” in 10 months?

Thomas Bryant is a bit of a stretch IMO - but Steven Adams?

Sign me up - especially if JT can't shoot any better than this.

Adams is a less valuable asset than Bryant!

Better player, but he's paid a lot of money and is on the decline.

And Kemba Walker is not on the decline? Gordon Hayward is nearing the end of his prime...

I think those two are our best players.

Steven Adams window matches up better with Kemba and GH.

How about Marc Gasol? He defended Embiid quite well last post-season.

To ME - the GSW Small Ball model ain't working any more. I understand that Danny has to be prudent and make wise choices but I really believe we're going to have to shake some things up to improve.

I "know" it's early - I get that. I hope I'm wrong. But I'm getting tired of the formula not working.

I'm feeling like that cute old lady from those old Wendy's commercials -



I'm open to this team acquiring more "Beef" in the future if needed - and other than Smart, Kemba or GH we may be looking at one of the young stallions departing.

Again - I hope I'm wrong.

Marc Gasol is relatively cooked.

[Fafnir]

Gasol made sense because the Raptors were all in on one year and were giving up Jonas/Delon two guys they didn't want to pay going forward anyways.

Nothing has suggested to me the C's shouldn't want to sign Tatum to an extension and keep him around for at least his second contract.

[Monkhouse]

People are actually talking about trading Tatum for Bryant + Bertans and Adams?

Weird.

Thank god none of you are GM's, because that's like Isiah Thomas's level of ineptness...

[gouki88]

As Faf has said, I think the C’s will want to keep Tatum. They kept Brown, despite his 3rd season struggles, and that has paid off in a major way.

However, if Tatum were to be the centrepiece in a move for a guy like KAT, Ayton or John Collins I’d probably be at peace with it. Maybe even Adebayo. Thing is, those guys’ teams have no desire to move them.

[GreenFaith1819]

Tatum went from “centerpiece for Anthony Davis” to “he could probably get us Thomas Bryant” in 10 months?

Thomas Bryant is a bit of a stretch IMO - but Steven Adams?

Sign me up - especially if JT can't shoot any better than this.

Adams is a less valuable asset than Bryant!

Better player, but he's paid a lot of money and is on the decline.

And Kemba Walker is not on the decline? Gordon Hayward is nearing the end of his prime...

I think those two are our best players.

Steven Adams window matches up better with Kemba and GH.

How about Marc Gasol? He defended Embiid quite well last post-season.

To ME - the GSW Small Ball model ain't working any more. I understand that Danny has to be prudent and make wise choices but I really believe we're going to have to shake some things up to improve.

I "know" it's early - I get that. I hope I'm wrong. But I'm getting tired of the formula not working.

I'm feeling like that cute old lady from those old Wendy's commercials -



I'm open to this team acquiring more "Beef" in the future if needed - and other than Smart, Kemba or GH we may be looking at one of the young stallions departing.

Again - I hope I'm wrong.

Marc Gasol is relatively cooked.

He wasn't cooked while he was putting his body on Embiid last May....knocking him off his comfort zone.

Who do we have to do this, now? Kanter? Kanter played admirably well last night...HAS played Embiid well in the past...but let's be real.

We LOST to PHI last night and Al Horford didn't even play. We lost to PHI earlier this year as well.

How long can we use excuses?

[Fafnir]

As Faf has said, I think the C’s will want to keep Tatum. They kept Brown, despite his 3rd season struggles, and that has paid off in a major way.

However, if Tatum were to be the centrepiece in a move for a guy like KAT, Ayton or John Collins I’d probably be at peace with it. Maybe even Adebayo. Thing is, those guys’ teams have no desire to move them.

For me scratch Collins off that list. He just can't defend at either the 4 or the 5 for all his offensive and rebounding strengths. Its really had for me to move a two-way wing for a guy like that.

Fundamentally the C's need Tatum or Brown to develop into an all-nba caliber of player. Any trade involving them has to further that goal since they are our shots at developing that level of player internally.

[Fafnir]

He wasn't cooked while he was putting his body on Embiid last May....knocking him off his comfort zone.

Who do we have to do this, now? Kanter? Kanter played admirably well last night...HAS played Embiid well in the past...but let's be real.

We LOST to PHI last night and Al Horford didn't even play. We lost to PHI earlier this year as well.

How long can we use excuses?

Panicking after two losses in a row is a really bad way to run a basketball team.