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Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #555 on: November 19, 2018, 09:41:35 PM »

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Maybe we should have tried Jaylen on Kemba to give him more length to get over.

This occurred to me too.  Normally you trust Smart to do as well as anybody can in these matchups, but it clearly didn’t work tonight.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #556 on: November 19, 2018, 09:41:43 PM »

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Meantime no excuse about time to jell and all that in Philly.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #557 on: November 19, 2018, 09:41:47 PM »

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Maybe we should have tried Jaylen on Kemba to give him more length to get over.

Good point! A fast long defender might work...

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #558 on: November 19, 2018, 09:42:27 PM »

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I’m not sure what to say about this one. 

I don’t think the usual “no offensive identity/chemistry” complaint applies tonight.  We scored 112 and shot 50% from the field.  Still not hitting as much as we should from 3, but still... 112 should get it done.

But the defense, which has been our saving grace this season, was the opposite tonight.  Can’t give up 117 to freaking Charlotte.  And we’re becoming a common victim of scoring guards.  Booker.  Murray.  Kemba.  If that happens once or twice, it’s a fluke.  Now it’s becoming a trend. 

Frustrating.
They're one game over .500.  They've been torched defensively by multiple players - granted good ones but it's happening far too often.  How good defensively can they actually be? They have trouble stopping decent teams.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #559 on: November 19, 2018, 09:43:01 PM »

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When Brad pulled Kyrie in the 4th, that was game...

That and insisting on gimpy Hayward down the stretch instead of Brown when Brown actually showed some initiative and intensity today. There's like no logic or consistency with him.

When does Brad start getting murmurs about the hot seat? Seriously. NBA coaches are a dime a dozen. You don't get this type of stacked talent on one team all the time. If nice guy Brad isn't getting it done, we can't afford wasting this season with him not motivating players and making inexplicable rotation decisions costing us games. That's just asking Kyrie to leave next year.

People can think this is a hot take all they want, but it's unequivocally clear that the coaching staff has been a complete failure top to bottom this year, which is a major part of our struggles due to lack of preparation and inept in-game decision-making. Someone else can do the job if Brad can't, because it's looking more and more likely that Brad is more of a "maximizer" coach that can't actually manage this level of talent.

You feel Brad should be replaced? With who? And a year after we were 1 game away from the finals and 2 years from making the ECF?

I don't know if he should be replaced... yet. But he does clearly need some pressure put on him, as he's largely operated free from scrutiny in the press and everywhere else.

Look, he might just not be a coach that can manage this level of talent and egos, which quite honestly wouldn't surprise me given his character. Simply put - he's too nice. I don't think you can try to be everyone's friend and try to equally distribute the playing time like Brad is clearly trying to do.

But if we're still playing this type of inconsistent ball with inconsistent effort and terrible rotations in January, yeah, I'll be onboard with switching coaches. But for now Brad at least needs some pressure put on him to figure this out, because this is a giant waste of talent as it is right now.
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Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #560 on: November 19, 2018, 09:43:33 PM »

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Maybe we should have tried Jaylen on Kemba to give him more length to get over.

Good point! A fast long defender might work...

Because he looked so good on him when he was switched in the first half........
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Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #561 on: November 19, 2018, 09:45:10 PM »

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This team is in trouble.  I never thought I would say this, but here are 5 teams in the east better than us.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #562 on: November 19, 2018, 09:45:12 PM »

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Maybe we should have tried Jaylen on Kemba to give him more length to get over.

Good point! A fast long defender might work...

Because he looked so good on him when he was switched in the first half........

Weren't we ahead in the 1st half?

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #563 on: November 19, 2018, 09:46:51 PM »

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This has ruined my night.

Anyway, see you all again in a few days.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #564 on: November 19, 2018, 09:46:55 PM »

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Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #565 on: November 19, 2018, 09:47:34 PM »

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We were up 10 in the 4th with 9 min left.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #566 on: November 19, 2018, 09:48:14 PM »

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When Brad pulled Kyrie in the 4th, that was game...

That and insisting on gimpy Hayward down the stretch instead of Brown when Brown actually showed some initiative and intensity today. There's like no logic or consistency with him.

When does Brad start getting murmurs about the hot seat? Seriously. NBA coaches are a dime a dozen. You don't get this type of stacked talent on one team all the time. If nice guy Brad isn't getting it done, we can't afford wasting this season with him not motivating players and making inexplicable rotation decisions costing us games. That's just asking Kyrie to leave next year.

People can think this is a hot take all they want, but it's unequivocally clear that the coaching staff has been a complete failure top to bottom this year, which is a major part of our struggles due to lack of preparation and inept in-game decision-making. Someone else can do the job if Brad can't, because it's looking more and more likely that Brad is more of a "maximizer" coach that can't actually manage this level of talent.

Yeah. This is a hot take.

Just because Brad isn't breaking chairs on the sideline, it doesn't mean he's not getting into his players. He's called this team out for settling for 2's, he's benched Tatum (for a quarter at least), he's called out their mental toughness, he's changed the starting lineup. At the end of the day, players have to execute. He can't secure rebounds for Al. He can't pull Rozier's head of his butt, he can't guard Kemba. At some point, there needs to be a players only meeting and guys have to step up.

No, the fact that we're still getting inconsistent effort from guys shows that Brad is not getting to his players.

And none of this even touches on the fact that Brad's in-game decision-making is subpar and his rotations are arbitrary with no logical basis, which is a problem he has dealt with since Day 1 in 2014. It doesn't matter how genius is he in his preparation, it's all for naught if he's simply incapable of making sound in-game decisions or adjusting to the other team.

Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #567 on: November 19, 2018, 09:48:26 PM »

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We were up 10 in the 4th with 9 min left.
Right before a certain star point guard of ours was benched
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Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #568 on: November 19, 2018, 09:48:27 PM »

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Re: Celtics (9-7) at Hornets (7-8) Game #16 11/19/18
« Reply #569 on: November 19, 2018, 09:48:53 PM »

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Maybe we should have tried Jaylen on Kemba to give him more length to get over.

Good point! A fast long defender might work...

Because he looked so good on him when he was switched in the first half........

Weren't we ahead in the 1st half?

It was a back and forth game in the 1st half too. Selective memory is ripe around these parts.

I don't enjoy losing, but i'm not sure the narrative that this is the worst loss of the season and Jaylen could've saved us is the hill we should be dying on.
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