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Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« on: October 25, 2021, 08:56:38 PM »

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I'm worried about the guy, and he's not somebody I want taking up $12 million of payroll next season.  Was it a mistake to give him an extension?  Should he be getting minutes over Nesmith?  What skills does he have that he isn't showing right now?

Somebody should start the twin "Why did we extend Marcus Smart?" thread, because he's playing almost as badly.  I'm starting to miss the "dump everybody to create cap space" times.


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Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2021, 09:01:58 PM »

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I'm worried about the guy, and he's not somebody I want taking up $12 million of payroll next season.  Was it a mistake to give him an extension?  Should he be getting minutes over Nesmith?  What skills does he have that he isn't showing right now?

Somebody should start the twin "Why did we extend Marcus Smart?" thread, because he's playing almost as badly.  I'm starting to miss the "dump everybody to create cap space" times.

Roy we are giving these guys 50 minutes of game time now?

Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2021, 09:10:12 PM »

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Because they couldn’t sign Fournier whose a much better fit for God knows what reason…

Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2021, 09:11:12 PM »

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I'm worried about the guy, and he's not somebody I want taking up $12 million of payroll next season.  Was it a mistake to give him an extension?  Should he be getting minutes over Nesmith?  What skills does he have that he isn't showing right now?

Somebody should start the twin "Why did we extend Marcus Smart?" thread, because he's playing almost as badly.  I'm starting to miss the "dump everybody to create cap space" times.

Roy we are giving these guys 50 minutes of game time now?

They're professionals.  They should be prepared to play.  I think it's fair to question whether guaranteeing $12 million to a guy who has been on a steady downward trajectory was a good idea.


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Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2021, 09:11:54 PM »

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Considering what they are paying NBA players nowadays I think we got a bargain. He's hitting his shots and can be  pesky defender.

Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2021, 09:18:07 PM »

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Considering what they are paying NBA players nowadays I think we got a bargain. He's hitting his shots and can be  pesky defender.

He's averaging 6 points per game, and missed one game entirely with a pre-existing health condition.  He hit his shots in one game, and is 3 for 10 overall (1 for 7 from 3PT) in the other two.



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Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2021, 09:19:37 PM »

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I would be so thrilled if we could package Smart and Richardson for someone..
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Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2021, 09:57:06 PM »

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Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2021, 10:17:37 PM »

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I'm worried about the guy, and he's not somebody I want taking up $12 million of payroll next season.  Was it a mistake to give him an extension?  Should he be getting minutes over Nesmith?  What skills does he have that he isn't showing right now?

Somebody should start the twin "Why did we extend Marcus Smart?" thread, because he's playing almost as badly.  I'm starting to miss the "dump everybody to create cap space" times.

I'm of the understanding that we let Fournier walk so we could extend Smart and sign Richardson...if so I'm not understanding.  We really need a consistent three point shooter and 3rd scorer on this team. 

Meanwhile Fornier is averaging 19 PPG on 41% shooting over his first three games with the Knicks and was a huge contributor to our opening night loss to the Knicks.

I maintain that the only moves I actually like from Brad so far are the Horford trade and Schroeder signing, and the latter was a complete fluke.

Alas, the team is still new.  New coach, lots of new players...I'll give them 10 games or so to build chemistry before I get too critical.

And yes, Smart has been absolutely terrible.  He's averaging 7 points per 36 while shooting 29% from the field and attempting his usual 6-7 three point attempts per game.  Extending him was a bad idea.  Extending him for >$20M per season takes that idea from bad to horrendous - especially given that Fournier was reportedly happy to sign for similar money. 

Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2021, 10:35:32 PM »

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When Fournier was acquired at the trade deadline, it was pretty apparent that the team was either going to keep him or Smart, but not both.  The team chose Smart, which imo was the correct call even if Smart drives me crazy.  As for the Richardson extension, they added the year, so they could trade him next summer.
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Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2021, 11:03:54 PM »

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He’s not getting a lot of opportunity, but he’s shooting 45%+ from both the field and 3pt thus far. Solid defender, can guard the 1-3 and is still only 28 years old. Why wouldn’t you extend him another year for $12m.
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Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2021, 11:07:13 PM »

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He’s not getting a lot of opportunity, but he’s shooting 45%+ from both the field and 3pt thus far. Solid defender, can guard the 1-3 and is still only 28 years old. Why wouldn’t you extend him another year for $12m.

Because his play has declined four years in a row.  There’s no need to pay an above-MLE extension to a player that offers barely more than vet minimum production.


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Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
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I tell you what, celtic fans aren't happy with anything. We finally have depth with a tough-nosed defender on the wing that can make some offensive plays and now there are complaints about is contract.


Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2021, 11:27:41 PM »

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He’s not getting a lot of opportunity, but he’s shooting 45%+ from both the field and 3pt thus far. Solid defender, can guard the 1-3 and is still only 28 years old. Why wouldn’t you extend him another year for $12m.

Because his play has declined four years in a row.  There’s no need to pay an above-MLE extension to a player that offers barely more than vet minimum production.

He hasn’t been in decline for 4 years in a row. Richardson had his best year during the 2018-19 Season and he’s been on a new team for 3 consecutive years. It’s too early to tell if he will be a better fit in Boston, but I think Brad signing him to a reasonable contract when he could was the right call. Smart’s contract on the other hand is making me a bit queasy, though.
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Re: Why did we extend Josh Richardson?
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2021, 12:46:09 AM »

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Because his floor is a solid and versatile defensive player that can guard 1-3 (and even 4s on switches) without help and any coverage that the coaches call for. Stevens respected Richardson as a competitor for the past 6 years with 5 being in the East, and Udoka and Horford probably vouched for him from their experience with him on the Sixers.

I haven’t liked Richardson’s minutes either, but I understand that this is a new team, role, and we’re only 4 games into the season with 78 to go and plenty of time for that to change. We’re not in a position that we have to play Nesmith (who has not been good this season).

Having Richardson instead of Fournier guarantees we won’t have a player on the court who’ll get targeted and shredded in the playoffs (which is what every decision must come down to). Thibodeau is already giving more of Fournier’s minutes to Alec Burks and Quickley. 3 games in and Burks is already taking the lion’s share of 4th quarter minutes, that does not bode well for him in NY.