Poll: What should Patriots do regarding QB situation?

[Tr1boy]

What would you do??

Imo they should sign a UFA QB (not named Newton).   And draft best available 2nd round QB.  Davis Mills is underrated.  Cut Hoyer.

The bread and butter QBs of the draft are likely going to be chosen prior to 15 (example Zac Wilson).    Not a fan of reaching for Mac Jones

Has weak arm power.   Poor mobility.

You know who doesn’t have weak arm power and poor mobility? Cam Newton. How did that work out? I’d take a high IQ QB who is accurate every day of the week. Mac can still throw the ball 50+ yards. Not like he’s a noodle arm or something..

Newton is mediocre. Why bring him up? He should not be worth mentioning.  Russell Wilson, Mahomes and a good chunk of today nfl qbs have strong arms + can play

Mac Jones has noodle arms. Like Trask

Receivers will be waiting a lifetime for those passes

A good iq qb prospect that can throw (66 percent completion rate) and run a little is Davis Mills

[gouki88]

I would be okay with Mariota as a stopgap. Try and use him similarly to how Tennessee use Tannehill.

If we can trade up for Trey Lance I'd give that a go, but he seems destined for Carolina. Unsure about Mac Jones, given the last Alabama starting QB to actually improve in the NFL was Joe Namath.

Maybe pray Pitts falls into our hands. If not would be happy to take Rondale Moore or Rousseau.

[SparzWizard]

Sigh should have paid Brady. Much regrets

[tstorey_97]

My only concern is Belichick. This isn't going to be "the year" for the team, thus, we get stopgaps and maybe a rookie in the 2nd or 3rd round.

College QB evaluations are very difficult, look at all of the misses that bad teams have suffered through.

Here's all the QB's Bill has drafted since taking over long ago...

2000, Round 6, Pick 199: Tom Brady, Michigan
2002, Round 4, Pick 117: Rohan Davey, LSU
2003, Round 6, Pick 201: Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech
2005, Round 7, Pick 205: Matt Cassel, USC
2008, Round 3, Pick 94: Kevin O'Connell, San Diego State
2009 undrafted, Brian Hoyer Michigan State
2010, Round 7, Pick 250: Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State
2011, Round 3, Pick 74: Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
2014, Round 2, Pick 64: Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois
2016, Round 3, Pick 91: Jacoby Brissett, North Carolina State
2018, Round 7, Pick 219: Danny Etling, LSU
2019, Round 4, Pick 133: Jarrett Stidham, Auburn

An interesting mix...one, however is missing?
2009 Round 7, pick: 232 Julian Edelman..still has the record for total offense as QB at Kent State.

This might be the one year where Bill spends a high pick for a QB, but, the odds aren't good. Jimmy G at the very end of the 2nd round is as high as Bill has ever gone.

This year in the later rounds:

Ian Book Notre Dame 49 TD 9 int (JR/SR years)
Shane Buechele SMU 23 TD 6 int ( SR year)
Brady White Memphis 64 TD 21 int (SR/JR year)
 
Bill might look at one of these guys, I don't live in Nantucket so I don't know. The reason for Jimmy G was he can get the ball out fast and still can....one of the quickest in the NFL.

Don't see Bill "paying" for a veteran QB though...he wouldn't pay Brady why would be pay Trubisky?

Cam Newton and his injured shoulder is unable to throw screen passes, quick outs, pops into the end zone etc. Imagine being the opposing defensive coordinator and knowing the above? Talk about being able to simplify your defensive game plan.

Personally, I like Jones as a player who might translate into the NFL. If he drops? Bill might pick him in the 2nd round and add him to his C- record drafting SEC QB's.

Bill does "bring guys back" now and then and Brissett will be inexpensive and quick to pick up the Patriot's system if he's available.

There was a rumor of the Patriots inquiring about Bridgewater, but, Bill is thorough with his smokescreens.

The only veteran backup QB Bill truly wants next year? Vinny Testaverde, age 58. Vinny played with 8 NFL teams in his 20 year career, (including in Cleveland with Bill) talk about knowing everybody else's playbook?

Brady 681 TD 181 INT
Testaverde 275 TD 267 INT

[gouki88]

What would you do??

Imo they should sign a UFA QB (not named Newton).   And draft best available 2nd round QB.  Davis Mills is underrated.  Cut Hoyer.

The bread and butter QBs of the draft are likely going to be chosen prior to 15 (example Zac Wilson).    Not a fan of reaching for Mac Jones

Has weak arm power.   Poor mobility.

You know who doesn’t have weak arm power and poor mobility? Cam Newton. How did that work out? I’d take a high IQ QB who is accurate every day of the week. Mac can still throw the ball 50+ yards. Not like he’s a noodle arm or something..

Newton is mediocre. Why bring him up? He should not be worth mentioning.  Russell Wilson, Mahomes and a good chunk of today nfl qbs have strong arms + can play

Mac Jones has noodle arms. Like Trask

Receivers will be waiting a lifetime for those passes

A good iq qb prospect that can throw (66 percent completion rate) and run a little is Davis Mills

Davis Mills cannot run at all. Like, not even remotely. 63 carries for 86 yards in his entire career, with only 3 touchdowns. He is by definition a pocket passer. The only reason he's moving up the rankings is because the QB class is stunting in the middle. A guy with as big a failure of a college career as Mills is not the answer.

He's got a good natural arm, as well as textbook QB size, but he's got a lot of flaws. He really should have stayed another year at Stanford IMO. He'll probably go day 3.

There are a number of other QB's in the similar range with, in my opinion, a higher chance of success. Kellen Mond had a much better college career than Mills and has a higher physical upside. Jamie Newman is a high-upside guy. I'd also rather us take Dustin Crum, mainly because the last time we took a Kent State QB he turned out pretty well (admittedly at WR... )

[boscel33]

Couldn't vote because my option wasn't there.  I'd like to see Mariota 1st, then JimmyG 2nd.  I'm not overpaying for them, I think the Pats could hold firm on their offer and get one of the two, specially Mariota since he has a cap hit of $11M which they may not want to pay, for a backup.  As for JimmyG, I don't buy the Lynch story of him being their QB.  that means, we could set that market too.

[boscel33]

My only concern is Belichick. This isn't going to be "the year" for the team, thus, we get stopgaps and maybe a rookie in the 2nd or 3rd round.

College QB evaluations are very difficult, look at all of the misses that bad teams have suffered through.

Here's all the QB's Bill has drafted since taking over long ago...

2000, Round 6, Pick 199: Tom Brady, Michigan
2002, Round 4, Pick 117: Rohan Davey, LSU
2003, Round 6, Pick 201: Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech
2005, Round 7, Pick 205: Matt Cassel, USC
2008, Round 3, Pick 94: Kevin O'Connell, San Diego State
2009 undrafted, Brian Hoyer Michigan State
2010, Round 7, Pick 250: Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State
2011, Round 3, Pick 74: Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
2014, Round 2, Pick 64: Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois
2016, Round 3, Pick 91: Jacoby Brissett, North Carolina State
2018, Round 7, Pick 219: Danny Etling, LSU
2019, Round 4, Pick 133: Jarrett Stidham, Auburn

An interesting mix...one, however is missing?
2009 Round 7, pick: 232 Julian Edelman..still has the record for total offense as QB at Kent State.

This might be the one year where Bill spends a high pick for a QB, but, the odds aren't good. Jimmy G at the very end of the 2nd round is as high as Bill has ever gone.

This year in the later rounds:

Ian Book Notre Dame 49 TD 9 int (JR/SR years)
Shane Buechele SMU 23 TD 6 int ( SR year)
Brady White Memphis 64 TD 21 int (SR/JR year)
 
Bill might look at one of these guys, I don't live in Nantucket so I don't know. The reason for Jimmy G was he can get the ball out fast and still can....one of the quickest in the NFL.

Don't see Bill "paying" for a veteran QB though...he wouldn't pay Brady why would be pay Trubisky?

Cam Newton and his injured shoulder is unable to throw screen passes, quick outs, pops into the end zone etc. Imagine being the opposing defensive coordinator and knowing the above? Talk about being able to simplify your defensive game plan.

Personally, I like Jones as a player who might translate into the NFL. If he drops? Bill might pick him in the 2nd round and add him to his C- record drafting SEC QB's.

Bill does "bring guys back" now and then and Brissett will be inexpensive and quick to pick up the Patriot's system if he's available.

There was a rumor of the Patriots inquiring about Bridgewater, but, Bill is thorough with his smokescreens.

The only veteran backup QB Bill truly wants next year? Vinny Testaverde, age 58. Vinny played with 8 NFL teams in his 20 year career, (including in Cleveland with Bill) talk about knowing everybody else's playbook?

Brady 681 TD 181 INT
Testaverde 275 TD 267 INT

I think the later round QB I have my eyes on is Jamie Newman our of WF/UGA.  That said, are we giving up on Stid?  The kid was going into year two last year, but then had no camp or off season program.  I still believe he could be very good.

[Csfan1984]

For draft it depends on who is available. The team is so bad it needs to take BPA no matter position. If no QB fits look for a trade. Don't rely on FA or you might as well be ready for Cam.

[Moranis]

Alex Smith is available.  Waived by Washington today.

[Goldstar88]

Alex Smith is available.  Waived by Washington today.

I would roll the dice on him. He’s a decent passer and makes good decisions. I like Fitzpatrick as a bridge QB too, but Ryan is 38, Alex Is 36.  Would take Smith everyday of the week over Cam, Winston, and Mariotta.

[Goldstar88]

Pats to sign Cam Newton...SMH

$14M on a 1 year deal. Almost just threw up.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31050277/sources-qb-cam-newton-returning-new-england-patriots-1-year-deal

[Goldstar88]

Not a lot going on the in the NBA world right now, so I thought I’d bump Triboys thread.

What do you think the Pats should do at the QB spot at this point? Cam looked decent in two preseason games, but has only played 2 quarters. Mac has played more and he looked good as well, seems ready to me. The two are really close... should it be Cams job to lose or should the Pats let Mac take the reins now?

[A Future of Stevens]

I can't remember where I saw the take, but it was an argument to start Mac.

Mac is the future of this team. He is a "pro ready" quarterback. If he is going to have growing pains when starting, he will have them now or when he starts 6 games from now. We should try to get those pains out of the way early, as our roster is loaded. Better to get the pains out of the way so we can utilize the roster with Mac. That is where the ceiling of this team is.

[johnnygreen]

I haven't really watched much of the preseason games so far. I know Cam started both games, which I assume would mean he also played with the potential starting unit. Has Jones played with those same starters on offense, or has he been playing with more of a mixed unit by the time he comes in? If it's the latter, then Bill should start Jones next week, to get a better feel for who has better control of the offense.

[Tr1boy]

I'm eating crow

Jones is really impressive for a rookie QB

still early but he looks great from the pocket

dare I say it is.....esque

well yesterday it looked like it

He will hit a TD sooner or later