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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: traderondo on February 07, 2013, 06:15:46 PM
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Here is the trade...
Boston Trades: Rajon Rondo, Brandon Bass
Boston Receives: Al Horford, Jameer Nelson
Atlanta Trades: Al Horford, Jeff Teague
Receives: Rajon Rondo, JJ Redick
Orlando Trades: Jameer Nelson, JJ Redick
Receives: Jeff Teague, Brandon Bass
Accomplishes: Compete this year and long term. If we end up not needing Rondo or Bass, might as well trade for a legitimate Center in Horford. Jameer Nelson is just their to entice Orlando and make salaries work. It is nearly impossible to replace KG and it appears we already have a replacement duo for Rondo (if this "new" Celtics style continues until the trade deadline).
Starting lineup of the future: Bradley, Lee, Green, Sullinger, Horford
Our starting lineup for upcoming years would be:
Bradley: 23 years old
Courtney Lee: 27 years old
Jeff Green: 26 years old
Jared Sullinger: 20 years old
Al Horford: 26 years old
I think we would be better off but I'm sure there are thoughts on why we wouldn't. Reasoning for Orlando is rebuilding by dumping contracts and a young talent in Teague. Reasoning for the Hawks is keeping Smith by bringing in Rondo and a knock down 3pt shooter in his prime.
I'm not sure this is enough for ATL or ORL, but I want to get perspective from more Celtics fans.
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No -- I prefer Rondo over Horford
Jameer Nelson couldn't crack the Celtics guard rotation. Bradley, Terry, Lee and Barbosa are all better players than Jameer Nelson is. No interest in bringing Nelson here or taking on his contract. He has negative value (to this trade) in my eyes.
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I like Horford a lot. He'd be great WITH Rondo, so I wouldn't do the trade.
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No -- I prefer Rondo over Horford
Jameer Nelson couldn't crack the Celtics guard rotation. Bradley, Terry, Lee and Barbosa are all better players than Jameer Nelson is. No interest in bringing Nelson here or taking on his contract. He has negative value (to this trade) in my eyes.
Yeah. Jameer Nelson has no value, it is just to match salaries and get Orlando to be involved. Just a 3-team scenario I tried to do Rondo for Horford. Bass and Nelson are just spare parts in the deal.
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Nope.
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I'd make that trade. I like Horford's game a lot. And it is so hard to get a big man of that caliber.
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If the KG-Clippers trade went through, and we got Bledsoe, I would be fine with this (I don't care where Bass goes or doesn't go -- doesn't much matter the rate he's playing).
I'd also be fine moving Rondo in the offseason, when it will be easier to do (again, only in the event we got Bledsoe, otherwise, no thanks) for Horford. I personally think Rondo should be worth more than Al, but their salaries are very close, so if Atlanta were interested, a deal could happen. No need to get Orlando involved.
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Id 100% take a guy like Cousins over him and that's saying a lot
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If the KG-Clippers trade went through, and we got Bledsoe, I would be fine with this (I don't care where Bass goes or doesn't go -- doesn't much matter the rate he's playing).
I'd also be fine moving Rondo in the offseason, when it will be easier to do (again, only in the event we got Bledsoe, otherwise, no thanks) for Horford. I personally think Rondo should be worth more than Al, but their salaries are very close, so if Atlanta were interested, a deal could happen. No need to get Orlando involved.
True. I put Orlando in the mix because they could get Reddick back for Teague since they might not need him. I'm not sure whether Teague would be more of a SG along side Rondo or wether they would be overlapping each other at the point, or is more of a combo guard. That aspect might not even be necessary.
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Don't see why you'd include Orlando -- just trade for Horford and Teague. I also don't think ATL would do it.
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Well, I'd like the C's to get Horford. I like him. I'd also perfer to get Teague or Reddik to Nelson, but can understand your reasoning.
However, the killer is losing Bass. Now, I'm not in love with Bass, but the C's *need* either him or another PF to take his place. Swapping him for Horford still leaves the C's one big man short for right now.
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I consider Rondo and Horford on the same level - guys who aren't really good enough to be centerpieces of a rebuilding team, but are great building blocks. I think they'd be good together, but I feel like it would be a lateral move at best.
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Well, I'd like the C's to get Horford. I like him. I'd also perfer to get Teague or Reddik to Nelson, but can understand your reasoning.
However, the killer is losing Bass. Now, I'm not in love with Bass, but the C's *need* either him or another PF to take his place. Swapping him for Horford still leaves the C's one big man short for right now.
Yes, this season we would be hurting but when Sullinger returns I really like our lineup. The trade I probably should have proposed was Horford for Rondo straight up.
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Nope...many think rondo is overrated....I think Horford is
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I'd make that trade. I like Horford's game a lot. And it is so hard to get a big man of that caliber.
except he's probably shorter then pierce
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No one is going to trade for an injured guy, get real folks.
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No -- I prefer Rondo over Horford
Can not copmare Rondo-PG with Horford-C.
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No one is going to trade for an injured guy, get real folks.
Teams would trade for Rondo. It's just a question of what they give up. If trading for Rondo ensured that Smith would stay this summer, and therefore their chances of landing Howard go up, it adds value to the deal.
Again, I don't see the Orlando piece. Just do the below:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=agb8ky9
I think if Ainge could get Horford AND Teague for Rondo and Bass he'd literally jump for joy.
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If the KG-Clippers trade went through, and we got Bledsoe, I would be fine with this (I don't care where Bass goes or doesn't go -- doesn't much matter the rate he's playing).
I'd also be fine moving Rondo in the offseason, when it will be easier to do (again, only in the event we got Bledsoe, otherwise, no thanks) for Horford. I personally think Rondo should be worth more than Al, but their salaries are very close, so if Atlanta were interested, a deal could happen. No need to get Orlando involved.
I would agree with that as long as the Clipper deal involved jordan.
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If this deal is on the table now then I'd support this trade.
I just don't think Atlanta would go for this deal except to team up Rajon to his chum, Josh Smith.
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In a heartbeat - I wouldn't even think twice.
Hortford is a scorer, a rebounder, a shotblocker and a solid defender.
He's strong and athletic.
He's only 6'10" but then so was Perkins, and we did fine with him as our big.
Either KG or Hortford can play PF also, so I'd probably play KG at Center for now with Hortford's extra mobility helping him at PF.
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No brainer, you do that deal.
We move the ball fine on offense without Rondo. Teams dont need a great PG to win. Bigs like Horford are a rare commodity and the toughness he would bring down low is something we are sorely lacking.
Dont think Atlanta would do it though.
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Teams would trade for Rondo.
In the real world, people have to pass physicals before trades. People with torn ACL's do not pass physicals.
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hawks won't bite on that
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Teams would trade for Rondo.
In the real world, people have to pass physicals before trades. People with torn ACL's do not pass physicals.
I assume by the snide comment that the above is a joke.
Injured players get traded all the time, and I suspect the Hawks know Rondo has a torn ACL by now.
That doesn't mean I think Ferry would do it. But if he did wish to he could trade for Rondo.
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Yes.
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I consider Rondo and Horford on the same level - guys who aren't really good enough to be centerpieces of a rebuilding team, but are great building blocks. I think they'd be good together, but I feel like it would be a lateral move at best.
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that's just crazy talk. Rondo is definitely the better player and that's coming from someone that is big fan of Horford
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Yup. I think this team already is a contender. Horford is an upgrade over Bass in nearly every aspect of the game, especially rebounding.
As for the future, I think Rondo is a better player than Horford. But point guards are much easier to come by than big men in the NBA. And when point guards do prove they are NBA caliber, they can be had on reasonable contracts (Dragic, Lowry, Rondo, Conley, etc.). When big men even just show potential to be starting NBA caliber, they instantly command 5 year $50M contracts (Mcgee, Jordan, Hibbert, etc.)
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Trade Rondo for any1, as long as we get some picks in return
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yes no doubt
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Would have to say yes to the trade. However silly and horford is a less the. Ideal combo. They both lack length but there styles and talents would mesh well.