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Title: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Phantom255x on May 16, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
What excuses will Nick Wright come up with for his daddy?

Will Shannon Sharpe argue that poor Bron Bron has absolutely zero help from the roster HE assembled and forced Cavs FO to re-sign or trade for?

Will Colin Cowherd say the Celtics were just pure lucky these last two games, and Lebron is still just "getting a feel" for the Celtics?

Will Chris "Barbecue SAUCES" Broussard say that the ONLY reason the Celtics won was because of Lebron's "near-death experience" with the neck strain?

 ::) ::) ::)

I mean dang, even ESPN at least gives us some credit (First Take, Get Up, The Jump) and acknowledges our future is bright. But those clowns at Fox Sports literally just worship Lebron and hate on the Celtics every time. It's ridiculous!
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: CelticsQuestFor18 on May 16, 2018, 09:50:50 AM
LOL.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: BitterJim on May 16, 2018, 09:51:23 AM
If the Celtics win the series, some talking heads will refer to it as a "feeling out series", and that he only lost to figure things out for next season
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Phantom255x on May 16, 2018, 09:53:28 AM
If the Celtics win the series, some talking heads will refer to it as a "feeling out series", and that he only lost to figure things out for next season

Yes. He's "feeling out" whether Houston, LA or Philly is a better destination for next year  :P
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: gouki88 on May 16, 2018, 09:54:35 AM
Nick Wright makes me physically ill. He looks like a muppet (no offence to any muppets)
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on May 16, 2018, 10:02:34 AM
they are moving the goal posts already as expected. 

win game 3. knock them to the canvas and do not let them up. you cannot give lebron a glimmer of hope. crush their will. make them quit!
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: bopna on May 16, 2018, 10:08:11 AM
It seems so looong ago the last time James was swept was in the Finals against the Spurs if im not mistaken.. He is due for one right before he says goodbye to Cleveland.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Tr1boy on May 16, 2018, 10:14:15 AM
What excuses will Nick Wright come up with for his daddy?

Will Shannon Sharpe argue that poor Bron Bron has absolutely zero help from the roster HE assembled and forced Cavs FO to re-sign or trade for?

Will Colin Cowherd say the Celtics were just pure lucky these last two games, and Lebron is still just "getting a feel" for the Celtics?

Will Chris "Barbecue SAUCES" Broussard say that the ONLY reason the Celtics won was because of Lebron's "near-death experience" with the neck strain?

 ::) ::) ::)

I mean dang, even ESPN at least gives us some credit (First Take, Get Up, The Jump) and acknowledges our future is bright. But those clowns at Fox Sports literally just worship Lebron and hate on the Celtics every time. It's ridiculous!

these guys are clowns.  Broussard, Nick Wright etc look like fools

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdSesvhWkAA9efR.jpg)
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: celticinorlando on May 16, 2018, 10:20:17 AM
Chris Broussard is worthless. Waste of DNA.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Erik on May 16, 2018, 10:25:15 AM
The media is in a unique dilemma, similar with what is happening with Donald Trump. When you have a public figure as extremely thin skinned as LeBron and Trump, you risk losing access by criticizing them in any form. So you have a lot of media figures who will never, ever criticize them. Broussard is one of them. Shannon Sharpe is another. Then there are media figures who just don't care about having access like SAS, Skip. While they have their own faulty opinions (as others), at least you know they aren't in the athlete's pocket.

I fully predict Broussard to do his normal tour of "Cavs in 6." The moment it is obvious that LeBron will not win, you will not see him until next year OR he's going to throw the rest of the team under the bus.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: SHAQATTACK on May 16, 2018, 10:26:39 AM
Charles.

will be funny

Clowining Bron .....about getting D serious
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Tr1boy on May 16, 2018, 10:48:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8magg8eTOOk

Pippen, Pierce, Legler were the only ones I know that picked the Celts to win/have a legit chance

the rest are fools

Especially Bostons own Mazz
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on May 16, 2018, 10:50:47 AM
Broussard just said Cavs in 6 with Skip and Shannon :o
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: nickagneta on May 16, 2018, 10:56:51 AM
The media is in a unique dilemma, similar with what is happening with Donald Trump. When you have a public figure as extremely thin skinned as LeBron and Trump, you risk losing access by criticizing them in any form. So you have a lot of media figures who will never, ever criticize them. Broussard is one of them. Shannon Sharpe is another. Then there are media figures who just don't care about having access like SAS, Skip. While they have their own faulty opinions (as others), at least you know they aren't in the athlete's pocket.

I fully predict Broussard to do his normal tour of "Cavs in 6." The moment it is obvious that LeBron will not win, you will not see him until next year OR he's going to throw the rest of the team under the bus.
Don't forget Lebron's personal media puppet, Brian Windhorst.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: celticinorlando on May 16, 2018, 10:57:31 AM
Broussard just said Cavs in 6 with Skip and Shannon :o

Blind loyalty. They all buy the James will carry this team Kool-Aid. This team is no better than the 2010 Cavs team that quit because of Boston.

Saturday will be the Cavs last stand. Boston needs to finish them.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Tr1boy on May 16, 2018, 11:01:56 AM
Broussard just said Cavs in 6 with Skip and Shannon :o

what a clown
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Fafnir on May 16, 2018, 11:03:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8magg8eTOOk

Pippen, Pierce, Legler were the only ones I know that picked the Celts to win/have a legit chance

the rest are fools

Especially Bostons own Mazz
I picked the Cavs to beat the C's.

You can make a wrong prediction without being a fool  ;).
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Fafnir on May 16, 2018, 11:04:28 AM
The way Cleveland just quit in the last 4 minutes was the most striking thing to me.

I don't see them recovering if they face adversity in game 3, this team has such shaky chemistry all year....
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Tr1boy on May 16, 2018, 11:12:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8magg8eTOOk

Pippen, Pierce, Legler were the only ones I know that picked the Celts to win/have a legit chance

the rest are fools

Especially Bostons own Mazz
I picked the Cavs to beat the C's.

You can make a wrong prediction without being a fool  ;).

Picking is one thing (and odds/past indication is that the Cavs have the edge).  But stating that the Celts stand no chance....that is something else
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Erik on May 16, 2018, 11:22:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8magg8eTOOk

Pippen, Pierce, Legler were the only ones I know that picked the Celts to win/have a legit chance

the rest are fools

Especially Bostons own Mazz
I picked the Cavs to beat the C's.

You can make a wrong prediction without being a fool  ;).

Picking is one thing (and odds/past indication is that the Cavs have the edge).  But stating that the Celts stand no chance....that is something else

Or updating your prediction as more facts emerge...
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: celticinorlando on May 16, 2018, 11:26:25 AM
I think the mainstream media and most non Cs fans think the Cavs will still win this series. They all believe LeBrick will carry them over the finish line.

I just don't think he has enough around him this time. I think Boston gets at least a split in Cleveland...hopefully game 3 first.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Vermont Green on May 16, 2018, 11:29:25 AM
Obviously a lot of people missed on this one, sports talks shows, bettors, general fans, you name it.  How did it happen?

I think Milwaukee is better than people think (better than I realized, that is for sure).  We beat them but did not get much credit for it, it was just Milwaukee.

Boston proved to be much better than Philly but somehow that went under the radar.  It was more about how Philly lost than how Boston won.  Or to put it another way, the thinking was Philly wasn't as good as everyone thought instead of Boston is better than people thought.

The Cavs swept the Raptors.  Swept what was perceived as a very good team.  CLE appeared to be hitting on all cylinders.  They were hot.

Add this up and of course most people thought CLE would roll over the Celtics.  I am actually more surprised by how bad the Cavs have been more than how good the Celtics have been,but I am surprised by both.  How could that team have swept Toronto?  I still don't get it.

In terms of the Celtics, I am the most surprised and impressed by Jaylen Brown.  To be this young and to play this well in the playoffs is remarkable.  More impressive than Tatum and plenty has been said about Tatum.  Rozier has also had his moments but he has not been as consistently good as Brown or even Tatum.  Horford, Smart, Morris have all been good also but I kind of expect it from them.  I am not surprised by their play but certainly happy to see them play well.

Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Erik on May 16, 2018, 11:31:24 AM
I think the mainstream media and most non Cs fans think the Cavs will still win this series. They all believe LeBrick will carry them over the finish line.

The problem for this argument is that I'm pretty sure Game 2 was the best that LeBron can do. Everything that he was throwing up was going in (and these were low percentage shots). People are questioning why he pulled his foot off the gas and didn't go for the kill in the 2nd half. It was obvious to me that he looked gassed in the 2nd quarter. This is usually when Kyrie takes over. He has no one else on this team that can create their own shot. I don't think that he can perform better than this at his age.

I honestly think that it is a realistic outcome that the Cavs get swept (either in 4 or the gentlemen's in 5).

I think Milwaukee is better than people think (better than I realized, that is for sure).  We beat them but did not get much credit for it, it was just Milwaukee.

I completely agree. I mentioned prior to the Sixers series that the Bucks PLAYED better than the Sixers are currently playing and that I didn't expect the Sixers to beat us. I was mocked by a few of the people on this forum who seem to believe that Embiid and Simmons are already superstars (I don't even have Simmons as a top 50 player and I'd put Embiid top 30, behind Horford).
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: celticinorlando on May 16, 2018, 11:32:33 AM
Felt all along that Philly was a much tough match up for Boston than Cleveland is. Philly has a legit center, four or five guys that can make 3s and Simmons is a tough match up

What does Cleveland have other than LBJ? Love? He a stationary shooter now that occasionally runs the back door cut. Not really a tough cover.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on May 16, 2018, 11:36:46 AM
The way Cleveland just quit in the last 4 minutes was the most striking thing to me.

I don't see them recovering if they face adversity in game 3, this team has such shaky chemistry all year....
We have all the dogs. I think the Celts will be on a mission in Cleveland. Could we see LeBron revert back to the LeBron "quitting" on the Heat?
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: fairweatherfan on May 16, 2018, 11:55:30 AM
The way Cleveland just quit in the last 4 minutes was the most striking thing to me.


Shades of 2010. Really feels similar except we're the younger team now.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: nickagneta on May 16, 2018, 12:48:08 PM
The way Cleveland just quit in the last 4 minutes was the most striking thing to me.


Shades of 2010. Really feels similar except we're the younger team now.
The value of Lebron's next contract: $35+ million.

The cost of Lebron's Cavs jersey that he throws in the trash while running down the hallway towards the locker room after losing to the Celts in 4 or 5: $300+

The look on his Lebron's face while running down that hallway: priceless!

More fun than watching Lebron quit on his team on the court is seeing Lebron quit on his franchise. Just love it.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: manl_lui on May 16, 2018, 12:49:52 PM
The way Cleveland just quit in the last 4 minutes was the most striking thing to me.


Shades of 2010. Really feels similar except we're the younger team now.
The value of Lebron's next contract: $35+ million.

The cost of Lebron's Cavs jersey that he throws in the trash while running down the hallway towards the locker room after losing to the Celts in 4 or 5: $300+

The look on his Lebron's face while running down that hallway: priceless!

More fun than watching Lebron quit on his team on the court is seeing Lebron quit on his franchise. Just love it.

after game 1, i was afraid of a 2012 ECF Game 6 LeBron, what we got was 2010 ECF Game 6 LeBron, both scored a crap ton of points, but the latter ended up losing and coughed up 5+ TO
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: droopdog7 on May 16, 2018, 01:25:32 PM
Broussard just said Cavs in 6 with Skip and Shannon :o

what a clown
To be fair, he also said that were he betting his house, he'd pick the celtics.  Of course, now he's talking out of both sides of his mouth, making him an even bigger tool.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Erik on May 16, 2018, 01:28:53 PM
The media is in a unique dilemma, similar with what is happening with Donald Trump. When you have a public figure as extremely thin skinned as LeBron and Trump, you risk losing access by criticizing them in any form. So you have a lot of media figures who will never, ever criticize them. Broussard is one of them. Shannon Sharpe is another. Then there are media figures who just don't care about having access like SAS, Skip. While they have their own faulty opinions (as others), at least you know they aren't in the athlete's pocket.

I fully predict Broussard to do his normal tour of "Cavs in 6." The moment it is obvious that LeBron will not win, you will not see him until next year OR he's going to throw the rest of the team under the bus.
Don't forget Lebron's personal media puppet, Brian Windhorst.

Yeah, I was trying to remember his name.

It's really hard to watch the awkwardness of him and Broussard when asked a tough question about LeBron. It looks like they're calculating how much money a wrong answer will cost them before giving the weakest non-answer possible. At least Sharpe approaches it from a comical standpoint and I don't think he's in LeBron's pocket. They just seem to be good friends... and I think that Sharpe is hilarious.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: BitterJim on May 16, 2018, 01:28:54 PM
Chris Broussard is worthless. Waste of DNA.

Multiple sources confirm
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: footey on May 16, 2018, 01:32:10 PM
The media is in a unique dilemma, similar with what is happening with Donald Trump. When you have a public figure as extremely thin skinned as LeBron and Trump, you risk losing access by criticizing them in any form. So you have a lot of media figures who will never, ever criticize them. Broussard is one of them. Shannon Sharpe is another. Then there are media figures who just don't care about having access like SAS, Skip. While they have their own faulty opinions (as others), at least you know they aren't in the athlete's pocket.

I fully predict Broussard to do his normal tour of "Cavs in 6." The moment it is obvious that LeBron will not win, you will not see him until next year OR he's going to throw the rest of the team under the bus.

Media hates Trump, loves Lebron. Just don’t see this.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: footey on May 16, 2018, 01:32:41 PM
Chris Broussard is worthless. Waste of DNA.

Multiple sources confirm

Multiple sauces too.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Tr1boy on May 16, 2018, 01:40:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM20EOVpus4

Broussard now loves the Celtics.  He compares the Celtics to "Rocky"
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Phantom255x on May 16, 2018, 01:42:36 PM
Chris Broussard is worthless. Waste of DNA.

Multiple sources confirm

Multiple sauces too.

Which ones? Honey Mustard? Sweet and Sour?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on May 16, 2018, 01:47:14 PM
Broussard just said Cavs in 6 with Skip and Shannon :o

(https://i.imgur.com/0JfPxg1.gif)

(https://i.imgur.com/yXN4uvf.gif)
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on May 16, 2018, 01:48:23 PM
Chris Broussard is worthless. Waste of DNA.

Multiple sources confirm

Multiple sauces too.

Which ones? Honey Mustard? Sweet and Sour?  :laugh:

MULTIPLE SAUCES CANS CONFIRM!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on May 16, 2018, 01:50:21 PM
The media is in a unique dilemma, similar with what is happening with Donald Trump. When you have a public figure as extremely thin skinned as LeBron and Trump, you risk losing access by criticizing them in any form. So you have a lot of media figures who will never, ever criticize them. Broussard is one of them. Shannon Sharpe is another. Then there are media figures who just don't care about having access like SAS, Skip. While they have their own faulty opinions (as others), at least you know they aren't in the athlete's pocket.

I fully predict Broussard to do his normal tour of "Cavs in 6." The moment it is obvious that LeBron will not win, you will not see him until next year OR he's going to throw the rest of the team under the bus.

Media hates Trump, loves Lebron. Just don’t see this.

correct. the guy who wrote that drivel is way off base. plus any POTUS is raked over the coals24/7. not lebron. lousy argument by whoever wrote it
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on May 16, 2018, 01:51:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM20EOVpus4

Broussard now loves the Celtics.  He compares the Celtics to "Rocky"

GO AWAY CHRIS. we do not want you or need you. ONLY true celtics on this PAIN TRAIN. we do not need bandwagoners.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: bellerephon on May 16, 2018, 02:37:43 PM
The Celts have the edge now and we haven't seen anything from the Cavs role players to make us think they can do enough to help Lebron, but at the same time it is far from a done deal that the Celts win. They haven't played all that well on the road so far, it's not crazy to think they could lose games 3 and 4. I think the Celts will pull it out and win the series, but the Cavs are not finished yet.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Erik on May 16, 2018, 02:41:48 PM
The media is in a unique dilemma, similar with what is happening with Donald Trump. When you have a public figure as extremely thin skinned as LeBron and Trump, you risk losing access by criticizing them in any form. So you have a lot of media figures who will never, ever criticize them. Broussard is one of them. Shannon Sharpe is another. Then there are media figures who just don't care about having access like SAS, Skip. While they have their own faulty opinions (as others), at least you know they aren't in the athlete's pocket.

I fully predict Broussard to do his normal tour of "Cavs in 6." The moment it is obvious that LeBron will not win, you will not see him until next year OR he's going to throw the rest of the team under the bus.

Media hates Trump, loves Lebron. Just don’t see this.

correct. the guy who wrote that drivel is way off base. plus any POTUS is raked over the coals24/7. not lebron. lousy argument by whoever wrote it

Be sure to re-read carefully before dismissing something as drivel.

The difference between LeBron and Trump is that you have way more people in the "I don't care about access" column for Trump, due to clearly defined political loyalty. The argument is that they are both very thin-skinned and will revoke access for any form of criticism. The fact that more people have lost access in Trump's case doesn't dismiss the premise.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on May 16, 2018, 02:45:53 PM
The Celts have the edge now and we haven't seen anything from the Cavs role players to make us think they can do enough to help Lebron, but at the same time it is far from a done deal that the Celts win. They haven't played all that well on the road so far, it's not crazy to think they could lose games 3 and 4. I think the Celts will pull it out and win the series, but the Cavs are not finished yet.

series is far from over. nobody said it was. but game 3 is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE  win this and the cavs will fold like a cheap tent. if we can get cleveland down on the mat 3-0, then we have to give them the final knockout punch and finish them. you cannot leave lebron on life support. FINISH HIM!
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: celticinorlando on May 16, 2018, 03:14:29 PM
Boston wins game three it will be over. If they lose game three we will have to hear for 24 hours how the Cavs are back, the Cs can't win on the road and how every expects the Cavs to win the series.

Get game 3 and Game 4 is house money. I expect Game 3 will be the Cavs last major stand. they will throw everything at Boston. If Boston wins I expect to see a disinterested Cavs and LBJ in game 4.

Get game 3 and you control everything.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: footey on May 16, 2018, 03:55:29 PM
Boston wins game three it will be over. If they lose game three we will have to hear for 24 hours how the Cavs are back, the Cs can't win on the road and how every expects the Cavs to win the series.

Get game 3 and Game 4 is house money. I expect Game 3 will be the Cavs last major stand. they will throw everything at Boston. If Boston wins I expect to see a disinterested Cavs and LBJ in game 4.

Get game 3 and you control everything.

Agree.  I think we will have great energy in Game 3 too. I actually have cautious optimism we will win it. OUr team is really playing in the moment; you hear all the players saying that. 

You can tell Brad has done a great job of brain-washing them!!
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Phantom255x on May 16, 2018, 04:10:05 PM
Boston wins game three it will be over. If they lose game three we will have to hear for 24 hours how the Cavs are back, the Cs can't win on the road and how every expects the Cavs to win the series.

Get game 3 and Game 4 is house money. I expect Game 3 will be the Cavs last major stand. they will throw everything at Boston. If Boston wins I expect to see a disinterested Cavs and LBJ in game 4.

Get game 3 and you control everything.

Agree.  I think we will have great energy in Game 3 too. I actually have cautious optimism we will win it. OUr team is really playing in the moment; you hear all the players saying that. 

You can tell Brad has done a great job of brain-washing them!!

If anything, I just think that the three days off between Games 2 and 3 could be something that throws us off a bit.

Our guys get rest, yes, but we seemed to be riding the momentum, and now CLE might have a chance to re-group during this break.

We got to stay focused and have to play with great energy in Game 3. Treat Game 3 like a Game 7. Can't afford to be complacent against a Lebron-led team. They may be down 2-0, but they know that if they can protect their home, they still got a chance to win the series.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on May 16, 2018, 04:11:08 PM
Obviously a lot of people missed on this one, sports talks shows, bettors, general fans, you name it.  How did it happen?

I think Milwaukee is better than people think (better than I realized, that is for sure).  We beat them but did not get much credit for it, it was just Milwaukee.

Boston proved to be much better than Philly but somehow that went under the radar.  It was more about how Philly lost than how Boston won.  Or to put it another way, the thinking was Philly wasn't as good as everyone thought instead of Boston is better than people thought.

The Cavs swept the Raptors.  Swept what was perceived as a very good team.  CLE appeared to be hitting on all cylinders.  They were hot.

Add this up and of course most people thought CLE would roll over the Celtics.  I am actually more surprised by how bad the Cavs have been more than how good the Celtics have been,but I am surprised by both.  How could that team have swept Toronto?  I still don't get it.

In terms of the Celtics, I am the most surprised and impressed by Jaylen Brown.  To be this young and to play this well in the playoffs is remarkable.  More impressive than Tatum and plenty has been said about Tatum.  Rozier has also had his moments but he has not been as consistently good as Brown or even Tatum.  Horford, Smart, Morris have all been good also but I kind of expect it from them.  I am not surprised by their play but certainly happy to see them play well.

This reminds me of the 2010-11 season when after practically every loss, the TV pundits would repeat some slogan about how nobody is beating LA four times out of seven. Then that LA team got swept out of the playoffs by the Mavs.

Pundits (especially ESPN'S) tend to have massive recency bias towards who has been good the past few years.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Moranis on May 16, 2018, 04:23:28 PM
yesterday the Speak for Yourself guys all basically said that yesterday was not a must win game except for Boston.  In fact, they generally gave the Celtics a very good chance of winning the game.  So I expect more of the same from today's show.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: TheReaLPuba on May 16, 2018, 05:06:43 PM
Boston wins game three it will be over. If they lose game three we will have to hear for 24 hours how the Cavs are back, the Cs can't win on the road and how every expects the Cavs to win the series.

Get game 3 and Game 4 is house money. I expect Game 3 will be the Cavs last major stand. they will throw everything at Boston. If Boston wins I expect to see a disinterested Cavs and LBJ in game 4.

Get game 3 and you control everything.

I actually have the opposite feeling.

If we go up 3-0 I think we lax a bit and on the flip side the Cavs role players play more free as the pressure to win (playing with LeBron is mentally exhausting) is gone.

They can just play like they’re the underdogs.

Plus I don’t want the Cs to play with the pressure of being the first team to blow a 3-0 series lead.

I would not mind the Cavs winning Game 3 (of course I won’t flat out reject a Cs win) to keep the Cs more locked in as the underdogs as they play better and more together in this role.

Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Celtics4ever on May 16, 2018, 05:51:48 PM
I bet Nick Wright is hiding in the corner eating chocolate ice cream after some of these games, dude loves LeBron so much....
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Rosco917 on May 16, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ysnJN-1m7c


Tyronn Lue says Celtic "Gooning" the game up.

Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Phantom255x on May 16, 2018, 06:49:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ysnJN-1m7c


Tyronn Lue says Celtic "Gooning" the game up.

After what JR did last night??

(https://media.giphy.com/media/1PgPvWLfXGkCY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Beat LA on May 16, 2018, 11:18:16 PM
Don't forget Lebron's personal media puppet, Brian Windhorst.

Speaking of whom, check out his latest "article", with my favorite parts being highlighted. Dude is salty AF.

Quote
LeBron & Co. are faced with a spry Celtics contender ... and organizational fatigue

BOSTON -- Tuesday was a fascinating day for the Boston Celtics franchise, an ode to the value of smart management, calculated risk-taking and stability.

At the NBA draft lottery in Chicago, team president Rich Gotham shared an awkward dual-desk arrangement on the dais with Elton Brand, general manager of the Philadelphia 76ers' G League team. Just a week after putting them out of the playoffs, the Celtics were at the lottery to ceremonially take a 76ers-owned pick if it landed in spot No. 2 or No. 3.

It was the latest reminder of a trade the two teams made last June, a trade Boston is winning right now by a couple of touchdowns -- especially now that the Celtics will be taking the Sacramento Kings' pick from the 76ers next year (and the Kings are drafting in the top 10 for the 10th consecutive year). And that on top of Celtics rookie Jayson Tatum having just completely outplayed 76ers rookie Ben Simmons while fellow rookie Markelle Fultz watched from the bench.

Then in the nightcap at TD Garden, Boston and its youthful, team-centric and expectation-free roster punished an older, slower and definitely less-happy Cleveland Cavaliers team 107-94 to take a 2-0 lead in the Eastern Conference finals.

It was set against the backdrop of the Cavs staying at the No. 8 spot in the same lottery, the remaining business from the Kyrie Irving trade settled. The Celtics controlled the Brooklyn Nets' pick for three straight seasons. It landed them Jaylen Brown, Tatum and, via trade, Irving. Those three players might end up being the foundation of a championship team, plus whomever they use that Kings pick on a year from now.

The last player selected with the No. 8 pick to be an All-Star was Vin Baker, taken in the 1993 draft. The die isn't cast, but the Cavs look to have an uphill battle to emerge from the Irving trade feeling positive.

When the Celtics players were frolicking to the basket in a second-half surge Tuesday, it wasn't just the circumstances, the relentless crowd or Boston PA man Eddie Palladino's flowing voice that were getting under their skin. It was the Cavs players themselves.

The Cavs aren't just battling the ascendant Celtics, they are battling an enemy that has dogged LeBron James teams in the past: It's organizational fatigue, and it's very real.

Like the Miami Heat before them and to a certain extent the last generation's Cavs, it seems to be a side effect of having James: where the quest for championships combined with a lack of security over keeping James leads to some win-now, pay-later decisions.

Acquire older veterans instead of developing younger players. Sign players to large contracts because they fit with James or because they can't be replaced if they leave in free agency. Trade draft picks to get veterans or as a way to relieve payroll pressure. Deal with the stress of repeated long playoff runs, endure massive media scrutiny, manage varying degrees of drama.

The players get sick of one another. They get sick of the coach. The coach gets sick of the players. As a group, they lose sight of the process of the season because it becomes monotonous. There are highs -- with James teams there are always highs -- but the baggage everyone is carrying makes the flight that much harder to maintain.

Pat Riley, who has seen about everything that can be seen in professional basketball, described this cyclical struggle of great teams as "the disease of me." And even Riley, who wrote the book on it, couldn't stop some of it from hitting his Heat franchise before James left town. The 2013-14 Heat team that James took to the Finals was exhausted mentally, physically and spiritually by the end.

Then there are the issues unique to the Cavs, where the previous successful general manager, David Griffin, and the owner, Dan Gilbert, couldn't work together. The owner and James don't trust each other. The new general manager, Koby Altman, was put in a next-to-impossible situation.

All of it has worn them out, all of them. Even the new players -- George Hill, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson and Larry Nance Jr. -- have been roasted for their inconsistent or nonexistent play. But they have to feel as if they jumped on the back of a thoroughbred in the closing stretch, everything is moving so fast and is so disorienting from what they were used to.

These challenges have risen for the Cavs' Western counterpart, the Golden State Warriors, this season, too. Coach Steve Kerr has said repeatedly this has been his most challenging season. He has tried every trick he knows to keep the group together, right down to letting the players run huddles. But the difference in the influx of a talent like Kevin Durant vs. the departure of a talent like Irving is the difference that means everything.

Someday, this Celtics group might be there. When aging players want one last deal or all the young players want to be paid or when some get tired of coach Brad Stevens getting all the credit all the time. But that day isn't today. This team is on the way up and enjoying the honeymoon, and it shows in every facet of the game. The Celtics play without burden and it's overwhelming the Cavs so far.

There's no doubt with James as the driving force, the Cavs play as if they have a certain mental edge over opponents. They've inflicted so much damage over the years to teams like the Toronto Raptors, Indiana Pacers, Chicago Bulls, et al.

But like the alpha male lion who had to fight his way to the head of the pride, the battles build up scar tissue and the younger upstarts circle, plotting for a chance to shove him out. At some point, it catches up with you. That upstart, it is starting to appear, is the Celtics.

Calling a playoff series over too early is a classic mistake. Simply assuming the Celtics, who haven't played well on the road in the postseason and still have some weaknesses that can catch them, will win two of the next five games is dangerous. The Cavs are hard to beat four in seven; they've won 12 series in the past four years after all. James has rescued his teams from worse spots.

But no matter how this conference finals plays out, it doesn't change the organizational fatigue the Cavs are fighting. It's hanging on them like a weight. Combined with their diminished talent from a season ago, it's making this playoff run feel like a trudge.

Talk about a wealth of material, lol, but especially insofar as Windhorst incorrectly referring to Pat Riley's term for complacency, etc., as "The disease of me" ::) is concerned.

Like, bruh, you spent four seasons in Miami around Lebron and Riley and yet somehow failed to pick up on the concept known as "The disease of MORE"? ::) Seriously, does no one edit anything, anymore? ::)

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23517495/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-facing-boston-celtics-organizational-fatigue-nba
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Beat LA on May 17, 2018, 02:55:18 AM
Chris Broussard is worthless. Waste of DNA.

Multiple sources confirm

Multiple sauces too.

Which ones? Honey Mustard? Sweet and Sour?  :laugh:

MULTIPLE SAUCES CANS CONFIRM!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to pile on, here, but I just love this graphic - 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7ftQ0uCYAIPrpM.jpg:large)

;D
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: j804 on May 17, 2018, 03:24:34 AM
Don't forget Lebron's personal media puppet, Brian Windhorst.

Speaking of whom, check out his latest "article", with my favorite parts being highlighted. Dude is salty AF.

Quote
LeBron & Co. are faced with a spry Celtics contender ... and organizational fatigue

BOSTON -- Tuesday was a fascinating day for the Boston Celtics franchise, an ode to the value of smart management, calculated risk-taking and stability.

At the NBA draft lottery in Chicago, team president Rich Gotham shared an awkward dual-desk arrangement on the dais with Elton Brand, general manager of the Philadelphia 76ers' G League team. Just a week after putting them out of the playoffs, the Celtics were at the lottery to ceremonially take a 76ers-owned pick if it landed in spot No. 2 or No. 3.

It was the latest reminder of a trade the two teams made last June, a trade Boston is winning right now by a couple of touchdowns -- especially now that the Celtics will be taking the Sacramento Kings' pick from the 76ers next year (and the Kings are drafting in the top 10 for the 10th consecutive year). And that on top of Celtics rookie Jayson Tatum having just completely outplayed 76ers rookie Ben Simmons while fellow rookie Markelle Fultz watched from the bench.

Then in the nightcap at TD Garden, Boston and its youthful, team-centric and expectation-free roster punished an older, slower and definitely less-happy Cleveland Cavaliers team 107-94 to take a 2-0 lead in the Eastern Conference finals.

It was set against the backdrop of the Cavs staying at the No. 8 spot in the same lottery, the remaining business from the Kyrie Irving trade settled. The Celtics controlled the Brooklyn Nets' pick for three straight seasons. It landed them Jaylen Brown, Tatum and, via trade, Irving. Those three players might end up being the foundation of a championship team, plus whomever they use that Kings pick on a year from now.

The last player selected with the No. 8 pick to be an All-Star was Vin Baker, taken in the 1993 draft. The die isn't cast, but the Cavs look to have an uphill battle to emerge from the Irving trade feeling positive.

When the Celtics players were frolicking to the basket in a second-half surge Tuesday, it wasn't just the circumstances, the relentless crowd or Boston PA man Eddie Palladino's flowing voice that were getting under their skin. It was the Cavs players themselves.

The Cavs aren't just battling the ascendant Celtics, they are battling an enemy that has dogged LeBron James teams in the past: It's organizational fatigue, and it's very real.

Like the Miami Heat before them and to a certain extent the last generation's Cavs, it seems to be a side effect of having James: where the quest for championships combined with a lack of security over keeping James leads to some win-now, pay-later decisions.

Acquire older veterans instead of developing younger players. Sign players to large contracts because they fit with James or because they can't be replaced if they leave in free agency. Trade draft picks to get veterans or as a way to relieve payroll pressure. Deal with the stress of repeated long playoff runs, endure massive media scrutiny, manage varying degrees of drama.

The players get sick of one another. They get sick of the coach. The coach gets sick of the players. As a group, they lose sight of the process of the season because it becomes monotonous. There are highs -- with James teams there are always highs -- but the baggage everyone is carrying makes the flight that much harder to maintain.

Pat Riley, who has seen about everything that can be seen in professional basketball, described this cyclical struggle of great teams as "the disease of me." And even Riley, who wrote the book on it, couldn't stop some of it from hitting his Heat franchise before James left town. The 2013-14 Heat team that James took to the Finals was exhausted mentally, physically and spiritually by the end.

Then there are the issues unique to the Cavs, where the previous successful general manager, David Griffin, and the owner, Dan Gilbert, couldn't work together. The owner and James don't trust each other. The new general manager, Koby Altman, was put in a next-to-impossible situation.

All of it has worn them out, all of them. Even the new players -- George Hill, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson and Larry Nance Jr. -- have been roasted for their inconsistent or nonexistent play. But they have to feel as if they jumped on the back of a thoroughbred in the closing stretch, everything is moving so fast and is so disorienting from what they were used to.

These challenges have risen for the Cavs' Western counterpart, the Golden State Warriors, this season, too. Coach Steve Kerr has said repeatedly this has been his most challenging season. He has tried every trick he knows to keep the group together, right down to letting the players run huddles. But the difference in the influx of a talent like Kevin Durant vs. the departure of a talent like Irving is the difference that means everything.

Someday, this Celtics group might be there. When aging players want one last deal or all the young players want to be paid or when some get tired of coach Brad Stevens getting all the credit all the time. But that day isn't today. This team is on the way up and enjoying the honeymoon, and it shows in every facet of the game. The Celtics play without burden and it's overwhelming the Cavs so far.

There's no doubt with James as the driving force, the Cavs play as if they have a certain mental edge over opponents. They've inflicted so much damage over the years to teams like the Toronto Raptors, Indiana Pacers, Chicago Bulls, et al.

But like the alpha male lion who had to fight his way to the head of the pride, the battles build up scar tissue and the younger upstarts circle, plotting for a chance to shove him out. At some point, it catches up with you. That upstart, it is starting to appear, is the Celtics.

Calling a playoff series over too early is a classic mistake. Simply assuming the Celtics, who haven't played well on the road in the postseason and still have some weaknesses that can catch them, will win two of the next five games is dangerous. The Cavs are hard to beat four in seven; they've won 12 series in the past four years after all. James has rescued his teams from worse spots.

But no matter how this conference finals plays out, it doesn't change the organizational fatigue the Cavs are fighting. It's hanging on them like a weight. Combined with their diminished talent from a season ago, it's making this playoff run feel like a trudge.

Talk about a wealth of material, lol, but especially insofar as Windhorst incorrectly referring to Pat Riley's term for complacency, etc., as "The disease of me" ::) is concerned.

Like, bruh, you spent four seasons in Miami around Lebron and Riley and yet somehow failed to pick up on the concept known as "The disease of MORE"? ::) Seriously, does no one edit anything, anymore? ::)

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23517495/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-facing-boston-celtics-organizational-fatigue-nba
Did y’all see Windy postgame? He legit looked infuriated. ****
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: GreenEnvy on May 17, 2018, 03:37:03 AM
Boston wins game three it will be over. If they lose game three we will have to hear for 24 hours how the Cavs are back, the Cs can't win on the road and how every expects the Cavs to win the series.

Get game 3 and Game 4 is house money. I expect Game 3 will be the Cavs last major stand. they will throw everything at Boston. If Boston wins I expect to see a disinterested Cavs and LBJ in game 4.

Get game 3 and you control everything.

I actually have the opposite feeling.

If we go up 3-0 I think we lax a bit and on the flip side the Cavs role players play more free as the pressure to win (playing with LeBron is mentally exhausting) is gone.

They can just play like they’re the underdogs.

Plus I don’t want the Cs to play with the pressure of being the first team to blow a 3-0 series lead.

I would not mind the Cavs winning Game 3 (of course I won’t flat out reject a Cs win) to keep the Cs more locked in as the underdogs as they play better and more together in this role.

Celtics need to win Game 3. It will rip their hearts out. They will be dead.

We learned from Game 3 in Milwaukee. We learned from Game 4 in Philly.

No need to give them any glimmer of hope. Take it to them early and erase any confidence they may have. Quiet their crowd and they will fold.

We know Toronto was absolutely brutal in Game 4, but they nearly won Game 3 in Cleveland and Indy dusted them the first game and then played three very close games there. We are a better road team than both of those teams. The point is that they aren’t all that dominant at home.

Game 3 is very winnable. Need to execute from the start.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Eddie20 on May 17, 2018, 05:36:54 AM
Don't forget Lebron's personal media puppet, Brian Windhorst.

Speaking of whom, check out his latest "article", with my favorite parts being highlighted. Dude is salty AF.

Quote
LeBron & Co. are faced with a spry Celtics contender ... and organizational fatigue

BOSTON -- Tuesday was a fascinating day for the Boston Celtics franchise, an ode to the value of smart management, calculated risk-taking and stability.

At the NBA draft lottery in Chicago, team president Rich Gotham shared an awkward dual-desk arrangement on the dais with Elton Brand, general manager of the Philadelphia 76ers' G League team. Just a week after putting them out of the playoffs, the Celtics were at the lottery to ceremonially take a 76ers-owned pick if it landed in spot No. 2 or No. 3.

It was the latest reminder of a trade the two teams made last June, a trade Boston is winning right now by a couple of touchdowns -- especially now that the Celtics will be taking the Sacramento Kings' pick from the 76ers next year (and the Kings are drafting in the top 10 for the 10th consecutive year). And that on top of Celtics rookie Jayson Tatum having just completely outplayed 76ers rookie Ben Simmons while fellow rookie Markelle Fultz watched from the bench.

Then in the nightcap at TD Garden, Boston and its youthful, team-centric and expectation-free roster punished an older, slower and definitely less-happy Cleveland Cavaliers team 107-94 to take a 2-0 lead in the Eastern Conference finals.

It was set against the backdrop of the Cavs staying at the No. 8 spot in the same lottery, the remaining business from the Kyrie Irving trade settled. The Celtics controlled the Brooklyn Nets' pick for three straight seasons. It landed them Jaylen Brown, Tatum and, via trade, Irving. Those three players might end up being the foundation of a championship team, plus whomever they use that Kings pick on a year from now.

The last player selected with the No. 8 pick to be an All-Star was Vin Baker, taken in the 1993 draft. The die isn't cast, but the Cavs look to have an uphill battle to emerge from the Irving trade feeling positive.

When the Celtics players were frolicking to the basket in a second-half surge Tuesday, it wasn't just the circumstances, the relentless crowd or Boston PA man Eddie Palladino's flowing voice that were getting under their skin. It was the Cavs players themselves.

The Cavs aren't just battling the ascendant Celtics, they are battling an enemy that has dogged LeBron James teams in the past: It's organizational fatigue, and it's very real.

Like the Miami Heat before them and to a certain extent the last generation's Cavs, it seems to be a side effect of having James: where the quest for championships combined with a lack of security over keeping James leads to some win-now, pay-later decisions.

Acquire older veterans instead of developing younger players. Sign players to large contracts because they fit with James or because they can't be replaced if they leave in free agency. Trade draft picks to get veterans or as a way to relieve payroll pressure. Deal with the stress of repeated long playoff runs, endure massive media scrutiny, manage varying degrees of drama.

The players get sick of one another. They get sick of the coach. The coach gets sick of the players. As a group, they lose sight of the process of the season because it becomes monotonous. There are highs -- with James teams there are always highs -- but the baggage everyone is carrying makes the flight that much harder to maintain.

Pat Riley, who has seen about everything that can be seen in professional basketball, described this cyclical struggle of great teams as "the disease of me." And even Riley, who wrote the book on it, couldn't stop some of it from hitting his Heat franchise before James left town. The 2013-14 Heat team that James took to the Finals was exhausted mentally, physically and spiritually by the end.

Then there are the issues unique to the Cavs, where the previous successful general manager, David Griffin, and the owner, Dan Gilbert, couldn't work together. The owner and James don't trust each other. The new general manager, Koby Altman, was put in a next-to-impossible situation.

All of it has worn them out, all of them. Even the new players -- George Hill, Rodney Hood, Jordan Clarkson and Larry Nance Jr. -- have been roasted for their inconsistent or nonexistent play. But they have to feel as if they jumped on the back of a thoroughbred in the closing stretch, everything is moving so fast and is so disorienting from what they were used to.

These challenges have risen for the Cavs' Western counterpart, the Golden State Warriors, this season, too. Coach Steve Kerr has said repeatedly this has been his most challenging season. He has tried every trick he knows to keep the group together, right down to letting the players run huddles. But the difference in the influx of a talent like Kevin Durant vs. the departure of a talent like Irving is the difference that means everything.

Someday, this Celtics group might be there. When aging players want one last deal or all the young players want to be paid or when some get tired of coach Brad Stevens getting all the credit all the time. But that day isn't today. This team is on the way up and enjoying the honeymoon, and it shows in every facet of the game. The Celtics play without burden and it's overwhelming the Cavs so far.

There's no doubt with James as the driving force, the Cavs play as if they have a certain mental edge over opponents. They've inflicted so much damage over the years to teams like the Toronto Raptors, Indiana Pacers, Chicago Bulls, et al.

But like the alpha male lion who had to fight his way to the head of the pride, the battles build up scar tissue and the younger upstarts circle, plotting for a chance to shove him out. At some point, it catches up with you. That upstart, it is starting to appear, is the Celtics.

Calling a playoff series over too early is a classic mistake. Simply assuming the Celtics, who haven't played well on the road in the postseason and still have some weaknesses that can catch them, will win two of the next five games is dangerous. The Cavs are hard to beat four in seven; they've won 12 series in the past four years after all. James has rescued his teams from worse spots.

But no matter how this conference finals plays out, it doesn't change the organizational fatigue the Cavs are fighting. It's hanging on them like a weight. Combined with their diminished talent from a season ago, it's making this playoff run feel like a trudge.

Talk about a wealth of material, lol, but especially insofar as Windhorst incorrectly referring to Pat Riley's term for complacency, etc., as "The disease of me" ::) is concerned.

Like, bruh, you spent four seasons in Miami around Lebron and Riley and yet somehow failed to pick up on the concept known as "The disease of MORE"? ::) Seriously, does no one edit anything, anymore? ::)

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23517495/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-facing-boston-celtics-organizational-fatigue-nba

Except you're wrong...

http://pickandpop.net/2015/12/the-disease-of-me/
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Celtics4ever on May 17, 2018, 06:29:01 AM
LeBron should be next the dictionary of that disease of me.   Unselfish on the court, but you can tell the guy thinks the world rotates around him.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Big333223 on May 17, 2018, 08:28:56 AM
This reminds me of the 2010-11 season when after practically every loss, the TV pundits would repeat some slogan about how nobody is beating LA four times out of seven. Then that LA team got swept out of the playoffs by the Mavs.

Pundits (especially ESPN'S) tend to have massive recency bias towards who has been good the past few years.

I forgot the Lakers were swept that series. TP for reminding me of the Lakers being crappy.

I'm looking at that series right now and it's pretty interesting. Dirk was 8/11 from 3 and 15/16 from the line through 4 games. That's nuts. After falling 0-3, the Lakers absolutely laid down in Game 4. No pride.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: celticinorlando on May 17, 2018, 08:57:44 AM
I did not realize how little defense he plays. He is basically playing a one man zone standing in the middle of the paint. He does not chase he man and he does not close out on shooter.

Cavs tried to him on the least productive player but that makes it hard since all 5 guys on the court can shoot and drive to the rim. That is reason #1 the Cavs defense is so bad. You best player is using the time to catch a break.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: fairweatherfan on May 17, 2018, 09:35:16 AM
No judgment or anything, it's sports and it's supposed to be dumb entertainment, but as someone who doesn't watch any of these shows I can't help but notice how many posters

- absolutely hate these pundits, and
- watch them all the time/are highly familiar with their statements

What's the deal? Why keep going back if you know it's click/viewbait crap?
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Fafnir on May 17, 2018, 09:38:12 AM
I assume they enjoy getting fired up, even if they know its dumb.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: bdm860 on May 17, 2018, 11:07:54 AM
No judgment or anything, it's sports and it's supposed to be dumb entertainment, but as someone who doesn't watch any of these shows I can't help but notice how many posters

- absolutely hate these pundits, and
- watch them all the time/are highly familiar with their statements

What's the deal? Why keep going back if you know it's click/viewbait crap?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G6xu-J_Dmc
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: nickagneta on May 17, 2018, 03:53:11 PM
No judgment or anything, it's sports and it's supposed to be dumb entertainment, but as someone who doesn't watch any of these shows I can't help but notice how many posters

- absolutely hate these pundits, and
- watch them all the time/are highly familiar with their statements

What's the deal? Why keep going back if you know it's click/viewbait crap?
Really no different than most sports talk radio shows. Same effect.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Phantom255x on May 17, 2018, 03:55:56 PM
No judgment or anything, it's sports and it's supposed to be dumb entertainment, but as someone who doesn't watch any of these shows I can't help but notice how many posters

- absolutely hate these pundits, and
- watch them all the time/are highly familiar with their statements

What's the deal? Why keep going back if you know it's click/viewbait crap?

If you are on Facebook and/or other social media sites, even if you don't watch the actual shows/videos (live or highlights), what they say usually pops up on a news feed or something lol, or on local websites and articles online, and of course it gets us infuriated  :P

Like I personally don't watch The Herd, but sometimes their FB page posts something he said which I view. Even if you don't like The Herd FB Page, if a friend does and he "likes" that article, it can pop up on your news feed saying he liked it and you also see what he says. That kind of effect lol.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Beat LA on May 17, 2018, 04:47:39 PM
Talk about a wealth of material, lol, but especially insofar as Windhorst incorrectly referring to Pat Riley's term for complacency, etc., as "The disease of me" ::) is concerned.

Like, bruh, you spent four seasons in Miami around Lebron and Riley and yet somehow failed to pick up on the concept known as "The disease of MORE"? ::) Seriously, does no one edit anything, anymore? ::)

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23517495/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-facing-boston-celtics-organizational-fatigue-nba

Except you're wrong...

http://pickandpop.net/2015/12/the-disease-of-me/

Nope. Riley first coined the term "the disease of more" in his 1988 book, "Showtime", which has been cited by everyone from Bill Simmons to Isiah Thomas (Zeke), etc., ever since in describing teams that become complacent/worn out, such as the 2013-14 Miami Heat. I know that you don't believe me, so enjoy the multiple sauces -

http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/071025

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/warriors/2017/07/27/the-disease-of-more/

http://pressbasketball.com/read/open-run-disease/

https://www.nytimes.com/1992/11/24/sports/pro-basketball-riley-teaches-knicks-that-more-means-less.html

No judgment or anything, it's sports and it's supposed to be dumb entertainment, but as someone who doesn't watch any of these shows I can't help but notice how many posters

- absolutely hate these pundits, and
- watch them all the time/are highly familiar with their statements

What's the deal? Why keep going back if you know it's click/viewbait crap?

Naturally, I can't speak for everyone, here, but personally, and much like yourself, as I don't watch these shows, I decided to "see what I was missing", so to speak, since posters have recently mentioned Nick Wright (who?), Chris Carter (who?), Max Kellerman (who?), Shannon Sharpe (who?), and Colin Cowherd (who?), and to be honest I feel like watching segments of these "shows" on the YouTube ;D is roughly akin to reading The National Enquirer in that said "programming" makes for relatively amusing background noise, imo, plus I enjoy observing their attempts at turd polishing ;D, not to mention Nick Wright referring to Chris Carter as "CC" because New Girl, lol ;D. Great bulletin board material, too, imo.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on May 17, 2018, 08:40:36 PM
Chris Broussard is worthless. Waste of DNA.

Multiple sources confirm

Multiple sauces too.

Which ones? Honey Mustard? Sweet and Sour?  :laugh:

MULTIPLE SAUCES CANS CONFIRM!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to pile on, here, but I just love this graphic - 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7ftQ0uCYAIPrpM.jpg:large)

;D

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA   TP!
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Phantom255x on May 17, 2018, 09:28:20 PM
I did not realize how little defense he plays. He is basically playing a one man zone standing in the middle of the paint. He does not chase he man and he does not close out on shooter.

Cavs tried to him on the least productive player but that makes it hard since all 5 guys on the court can shoot and drive to the rim. That is reason #1 the Cavs defense is so bad. You best player is using the time to catch a break.

Yeah. There were moments where Morris and Rozier were WIDDDDEEEEEEEE OPEN, and Lebron just stood there in an island of his own inside the paint.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: nickagneta on May 17, 2018, 10:31:58 PM
I did not realize how little defense he plays. He is basically playing a one man zone standing in the middle of the paint. He does not chase he man and he does not close out on shooter.

Cavs tried to him on the least productive player but that makes it hard since all 5 guys on the court can shoot and drive to the rim. That is reason #1 the Cavs defense is so bad. You best player is using the time to catch a break.

Yeah. There were moments where Morris and Rozier were WIDDDDEEEEEEEE OPEN, and Lebron just stood there in an island of his own inside the paint.
Celtics had 20 shots that were considered wide open and uncontested farther than 10 feet from the basket. My guess, a lot of those open looks were because of bad switches that Lebron was involced in, one way or the other. The Cs were wide open so much in the second half and Lebron was invisible defensively then.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: cman88 on May 19, 2018, 10:37:06 AM
I did not realize how little defense he plays. He is basically playing a one man zone standing in the middle of the paint. He does not chase he man and he does not close out on shooter.

Cavs tried to him on the least productive player but that makes it hard since all 5 guys on the court can shoot and drive to the rim. That is reason #1 the Cavs defense is so bad. You best player is using the time to catch a break.

Yeah. There were moments where Morris and Rozier were WIDDDDEEEEEEEE OPEN, and Lebron just stood there in an island of his own inside the paint.
Celtics had 20 shots that were considered wide open and uncontested farther than 10 feet from the basket. My guess, a lot of those open looks were because of bad switches that Lebron was involced in, one way or the other. The Cs were wide open so much in the second half and Lebron was invisible defensively then.

Roziers big 3 was a glaring example of that. No one even tried to come out and contest it. Lebron and everyone just stood there watching as he nailed a wide open 3
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Phantom255x on June 09, 2018, 12:00:28 AM
This thread still relates for the coming week.

Lebron and the Cavaliers got swept! Looked pathetic all night.

What will they say! What will the excuses be? Find out starting tomorrow  :laugh:

("Lebron has zero help" even though these morons said after the deadline that the Cavaliers did "enough" and finally Lebron had young players who could score and were athletic and good in the defensive end to close the gap against GSW)  ::)
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Beat LA on June 09, 2018, 12:07:37 AM
This thread still relates for the coming week.

Lebron and the Cavaliers got swept! Looked pathetic all night.

What will they say! What will the excuses be? Find out starting tomorrow  :laugh:

("Lebron has zero help" even though these morons said after the deadline that the Cavaliers did "enough" and finally Lebron had young players who could score and were athletic and good in the defensive end to close the gap against GSW)  ::)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/E3xXqq617AaFW/giphy.gif)

;D
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: MaxAMillion on June 09, 2018, 12:16:30 AM
Why watch if you are bothered by it?
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: Phantom255x on June 09, 2018, 12:40:29 AM
Why watch if you are bothered by it?

I don't watch, but it pops up what they say on my FB newsfeed, etc.

Kind of hard to ignore.
Title: Re: Can't Wait To Hear What The Fox Sports Show Hosts/"Experts" Say!
Post by: CelticsElite on June 09, 2018, 12:44:47 AM
Why watch if you are bothered by it?

I don't watch, but it pops up what they say on my FB newsfeed, etc.

Kind of hard to ignore.
Actually it's pretty easy you just click block or hide lol

But yeah I get what you mean