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Title: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: straightouttabahstun on November 11, 2017, 05:14:23 PM
https://twitter.com/celtics/status/929469046566899712

 Not playing tomorrow. Guess its better to have these all happen now I guess....
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Monkhouse on November 11, 2017, 05:16:27 PM
https://twitter.com/celtics/status/929469046566899712

 Not playing tomorrow. Guess its better to have these all happen now I guess....

Just like with Al Horford, it's better to be safe than sorry. Even if we lose our winning streak, I really don't care. I would love the W, but our players safety and health is far far more important than maintaining a streak just to maintain it without applying staunch smart decisions.

Good thing Brad Stevens is really good at this.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: hpantazo on November 11, 2017, 05:17:54 PM
https://twitter.com/celtics/status/929469046566899712

 Not playing tomorrow. Guess its better to have these all happen now I guess....

It says 'doubtful', so he might still play tomorrow
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: j804 on November 11, 2017, 05:18:42 PM
wow that really sucks
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: j804 on November 11, 2017, 05:20:12 PM
https://twitter.com/celtics/status/929469046566899712

 Not playing tomorrow. Guess its better to have these all happen now I guess....

It says 'doubtful', so he might still play tomorrow
It'd prob be questionable if he was dont think he'll go
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 11, 2017, 05:20:59 PM
Why us? This is getting crazy. Also, MM and Smart (someone else I think) got hit pretty hard in the head/face area last night.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: CelticsElite on November 11, 2017, 05:26:57 PM
Put the mask on and play
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: RockinRyA on November 11, 2017, 05:34:09 PM
Is there a timetable?
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: jpotter33 on November 11, 2017, 05:38:57 PM
Is there a timetable?

Just says he's doubtful for tomorrow's game. I'm guessing it's a day by day thing and he should be ready to go for Brooklyn on Tuesday if not ready tomorrow.

Hopefully it's mask Kyrie, too!
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Rondo9 on November 11, 2017, 05:39:05 PM
Time to bring out the mask!
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: jpotter33 on November 11, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
Should be noted that Al was upgraded to probable tomorrow, so at the very least we should have Al back.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: MattyIce on November 11, 2017, 05:44:30 PM
Is there a timetable?

Just says he's doubtful for tomorrow's game. I'm guessing it's a day by day thing and he should be ready to go for Brooklyn on Tuesday if not ready tomorrow.

Hopefully it's mask Kyrie, too!

Sources: Boston’s Kyrie Irving will likely miss Sunday’s game with facial fracture, then play through the injury with a fitted mask for two weeks.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/929479403737935873

Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: CelticsElite on November 11, 2017, 05:49:43 PM
Nba doesn't allow black masks

He will have to wear a clear one if he wears one
http://www.espn.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10535429/nba-asks-lebron-james-miami-heat-wear-clear-mask-protect-broken-nose
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Phantom255x on November 11, 2017, 06:03:19 PM
Let Kyrie wear a mask the rest of the season, and give every player on this team "jersey-fitted bubblewrap" for the rest of this season!

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 11, 2017, 06:49:25 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Eddie20 on November 11, 2017, 07:01:17 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

On the flip-side, Thomas is so soft that he tapped out in the ECF once he saw how Irving was handing it to him and the situation was not winnable. Months later he still hasn't played because of 1 bad hip. Puh-lease.... the guy has one good hip and he can spot up and shoot which he conveniently is healthy enough to do so before games. Stevens made him into what he is and he knows that without him it's  back to reality.

In a tribute to Pedro...Kyrie's his daddy!
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: GratefulCs on November 11, 2017, 07:02:39 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.
come on man..
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: CelticD on November 11, 2017, 07:07:23 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

TP for you sir, cuz you know this comment about to get flamed.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: jdz101 on November 11, 2017, 07:13:52 PM
Is there an ignore function on this forum?
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 11, 2017, 07:14:21 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

With all the scrutiny around the NFL's concussion protocol (did you see the debacle with Russell Wilson Thursday night?), the NBA is rightfully extra careful. They don't want to be lumped in with the NFL. They monitored him for a concussion - aka they weren't letting him back in the game.

You're making this too easy to argue against. The Celtics could afford to lose last night, but they couldn't afford a scandal or being connected (even slightly) to the concussion scandal in the NFL.

Besides, Irving is meta enough without concussions and brain damage.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Erik on November 11, 2017, 07:27:09 PM
https://twitter.com/celtics/status/929469046566899712

 Not playing tomorrow. Guess its better to have these all happen now I guess....

It says 'doubtful', so he might still play tomorrow
It'd prob be questionable if he was dont think he'll go

From an old fantasy football pro, the lingo means:
Doubtful = 25% chance
Questionable = 50%
Probable = 75%
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: CelticD on November 11, 2017, 07:47:34 PM
LOL Kyrie playin 2k?  :laugh: :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVD6NHcJJok

Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 11, 2017, 07:49:42 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

On the flip-side, Thomas is so soft that he tapped out in the ECF once he saw how Irving was handing it to him and the situation was not winnable. Months later he still hasn't played because of 1 bad hip. Puh-lease.... the guy has one good hip and he can spot up and shoot which he conveniently is healthy enough to do so before games. Stevens made him into what he is and he knows that without him it's  back to reality.

In a tribute to Pedro...Kyrie's his daddy!

Hah.  I felt like you were actually agreeing with me until the last couple of sentences.  The barometer for professional athletes has commonly been "will this injury get worse" if one continues to play -- e.g., playoff Rondo with dislocated elbow.  That was the case with IT - his injury became worse, but he sacrificed his future for the franchise.  So he's playing injured in that series, and Kyrie is fresh off of riding LeBron's coattails all year.  I'm sure he was dogging it for 3/4 of games, just like he has in Boston a few times now.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 11, 2017, 07:51:19 PM
LOL Kyrie playin 2k?  :laugh: :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVD6NHcJJok

He's just trolling/attention-seeking, as always.  His female fan club, particularly teenagers, don't care about this stuff.  Unfortunately, long-time fans and ticket payers do (or should).
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: ZoneD on November 11, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: CelticsElite on November 11, 2017, 08:47:34 PM
LOL Kyrie playin 2k?  :laugh: :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVD6NHcJJok

He's just trolling/attention-seeking, as always.  His female fan club, particularly teenagers, don't care about this stuff.  Unfortunately, long-time fans and ticket payers do (or should).
you care that kyrie played a video game ?
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: nickagneta on November 11, 2017, 09:15:49 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.
The hate is strong in this one.😁
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 11, 2017, 09:16:44 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists. 
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Erik on November 11, 2017, 10:06:45 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

By "played" you mean you were the guy at the end of the bench furthest from the coach?

This is the NBA. You don't play injured unless it's the playoffs.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Sketch5 on November 11, 2017, 10:20:52 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

And I bet you did it up hill both ways in 3 feet of snow too. :P

Hell, I broke a bone in my ankle and was playing less than 2 weeks later.

Reason why, it's frakin highschool, with little to no medstaff, and we aren't the faces of the franchise worth tens of millions of dollars that they are going to risk it on. It's the beginning of the season, so why chance it getting worse with an other blow.

They also kept him out to watch out for concussion symptoms since he was a bit dazed after. So it's a bit of BS calling him out not playing when the med staff made the call.   
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 11, 2017, 10:23:00 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

By "played" you mean you were the guy at the end of the bench furthest from the coach?

This is the NBA. You don't play injured unless it's the playoffs.

Starting PG -- sup now?  I also dated the head cheerleader.  She left me for a hockey player.

Let's please try to keep it civil here.  I shouldn't have to explain how good I was at basketball, how many injuries I played with, etc. 

IT played injury for what was likely the majority of the season, and he carried the team on his back the whole time.  What a meaningful and recent comparison.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 11, 2017, 10:35:32 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

By "played" you mean you were the guy at the end of the bench furthest from the coach?

This is the NBA. You don't play injured unless it's the playoffs.

Starting PG.  I also dated the head cheerleader.  She left me for a hockey player.

Let's please try to keep it civil here.  I shouldn't have to explain how good I was at basketball, how many injuries I played with, etc. 

IT played injury for what was likely the majority of the season, and he carried the team on his back the whole time.  What a meaningful and recent comparison.

There is moral culpability when a player is suspected to have a concussion. The NFL hasn't figured this out yet. The NBA is trying to learn from the NFL's errors and protect its players well.

They weren't going to let him come back into the game. They may have sent him to the hospital
 or home for various reasons. Irving was still engaged in the game, even though he wasn't allowed to return.

Your glory years playing basketball in high school do not in any way compare to a professional basketball league. Your injuries do not compare to a potential concussion. You weren't risking millions of dollars and/or future mental health. You did not have to abide by professional rules that guided what to do with particular injuries.

It was a regular season game in the middle of November. Grind your axe elsewhere. If you prefer the life of a troll near/under a bridge, I suggest you become a Golden State fan.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Jiri Welsch on November 11, 2017, 10:36:46 PM
IT played hurt and is presently unable to play games because he’s STILL HURT.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 11, 2017, 11:00:45 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

By "played" you mean you were the guy at the end of the bench furthest from the coach?

This is the NBA. You don't play injured unless it's the playoffs.

Starting PG.  I also dated the head cheerleader.  She left me for a hockey player.

Let's please try to keep it civil here.  I shouldn't have to explain how good I was at basketball, how many injuries I played with, etc. 

IT played injury for what was likely the majority of the season, and he carried the team on his back the whole time.  What a meaningful and recent comparison.

There is moral culpability when a player is suspected to have a concussion. The NFL hasn't figured this out yet. The NBA is trying to learn from the NFL's errors and protect its players well.

They weren't going to let him come back into the game. They may have sent him to the hospital
 or home for various reasons. Irving was still engaged in the game, even though he wasn't allowed to return.

Your glory years playing basketball in high school do not in any way compare to a professional basketball league. Your injuries do not compare to a potential concussion. You weren't risking millions of dollars and/or future mental health. You did not have to abide by professional rules that guided what to do with particular injuries.

It was a regular season game in the middle of November. Grind your axe elsewhere. If you prefer the life of a troll near/under a bridge, I suggest you become a Golden State fan.

There is moral culpability*, I agree.  It's also very hazy.  NFL players, especially linemen, are getting several concussions every single game.  There are varying degrees, and we definitely do not have sensitive enough instruments to detect them nor what to do with them from preventative and treatment standpoints.  Part of my meager salary comes from assessing the cognitive symptoms of mild traumatic brain injury, so I do appreciate your consideration of this factors.

That said, there are also a lot of athletes across sports that play with concussions (not just football).  Any one recall when Curry played with a concussion two years ago? And ironically, Klay Thompson suffered one right after.  Both continued to play, and Klay was reported to vomit after the game and needed to be driven home.  Yep, that is the playoffs, which is admittedly a different beast.  But you can be sure that bench players are playing through significant injuries all the time.  This is their livelihood.  Kyrie is one of the fortunate "stars" that doesn't need to because of his status (and hand-checking rules).  He shouldn't have left the arena, and personally, I have a lot more respect for guys that play through injuries... esp given how much money these guys are making.  No one rolls out a red carpet for me when tragedy strikes -- I'm still expected to go to work, as I'm sure most of us here are.

My glory years? I was asked - via personal attacks - what injuries I had experienced.  If you rest my entire post there, you'd probably agree that those were far from "glory years."  They were personal hell, and continue to be.  But again, thanks for the personal attack.  *thumbs up*.  And I'm not trolling.  I've given Kyrie a ton of credit elsewhere, I just simply do not like him because he represents everything I dislike about the modern NBA.  I'm not baiting you, or any one else -- if you disagree, let's discuss without insults.  Alternatively, you can ignore my posts or block me.

*Is there a moral culpability to drive a player into the ground at his expense, but the betterment of the franchise, and then trade him without warning?  I think so.  We could also question Kyrie's moral compass in the way he forced his way out of Cleveland and into a very cushy situation. 
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 11, 2017, 11:09:11 PM
I'm actually putting a lot of thought and consideration into these posts.  And I'm sure there are silent posters out there that agree with some aspects of my perspective on Kyrie, the modern NBA, the IT trade, etc.  It's unfortunate that replies tend to only come from naysayers, and often in the form of personal attacks. 
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: jpotter33 on November 11, 2017, 11:18:39 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

By "played" you mean you were the guy at the end of the bench furthest from the coach?

This is the NBA. You don't play injured unless it's the playoffs.

Starting PG -- sup now?  I also dated the head cheerleader.  She left me for a hockey player.

Let's please try to keep it civil here.  I shouldn't have to explain how good I was at basketball, how many injuries I played with, etc. 

IT played injury for what was likely the majority of the season, and he carried the team on his back the whole time.  What a meaningful and recent comparison.

This is the biggest revelation of the thread for me. How do you lose your girl to a hockey player in the US, let alone the South?!

EDIT: I mean, I lost my longtime high school girlfriend to a drug dealer that ended up dishonorably discharged from the Army, but at least he wasn't a HOCKEY player!  :P
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 11, 2017, 11:21:37 PM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

By "played" you mean you were the guy at the end of the bench furthest from the coach?

This is the NBA. You don't play injured unless it's the playoffs.

Starting PG.  I also dated the head cheerleader.  She left me for a hockey player.

Let's please try to keep it civil here.  I shouldn't have to explain how good I was at basketball, how many injuries I played with, etc. 

IT played injury for what was likely the majority of the season, and he carried the team on his back the whole time.  What a meaningful and recent comparison.

There is moral culpability when a player is suspected to have a concussion. The NFL hasn't figured this out yet. The NBA is trying to learn from the NFL's errors and protect its players well.

They weren't going to let him come back into the game. They may have sent him to the hospital
 or home for various reasons. Irving was still engaged in the game, even though he wasn't allowed to return.

Your glory years playing basketball in high school do not in any way compare to a professional basketball league. Your injuries do not compare to a potential concussion. You weren't risking millions of dollars and/or future mental health. You did not have to abide by professional rules that guided what to do with particular injuries.

It was a regular season game in the middle of November. Grind your axe elsewhere. If you prefer the life of a troll near/under a bridge, I suggest you become a Golden State fan.

There is moral culpability*, I agree.  It's also very hazy.  NFL players, especially linemen, are getting several concussions every single game.  There are varying degrees, and we definitely do not have sensitive enough instruments to detect them nor what to do with them from preventative and treatment standpoints.  Part of my meager salary comes from assessing the cognitive symptoms of mild traumatic brain injury, so I do appreciate your consideration of this factors.

That said, there are also a lot of athletes across sports that play with concussions (not just football).  Any one recall when Curry played with a concussion two years ago? And ironically, Klay Thompson suffered one right after.  Both continued to play, and Klay was reported to vomit after the game and needed to be driven home.  Yep, that is the playoffs, which is admittedly a different beast.  But you can be sure that bench players are playing through significant injuries all the time.  This is their livelihood.  Kyrie is one of the fortunate "stars" that doesn't need to because of his status (and hand-checking rules).  He shouldn't have left the arena, and personally, I have a lot more respect for guys that play through injuries... esp given how much money these guys are making.  No one rolls out a red carpet for me when tragedy strikes -- I'm still expected to go to work, as I'm sure most of us here are.

My glory years? I was asked - via personal attacks - what injuries I had experienced.  If you rest my entire post there, you'd probably agree that those were far from "glory years."  They were personal hell, and continue to be.  But again, thanks for the personal attack.  *thumbs up*.  And I'm not trolling.  I've given Kyrie a ton of credit elsewhere, I just simply do not like him because he represents everything I dislike about the modern NBA.  I'm not baiting you, or any one else -- if you disagree, let's discuss without insults.  Alternatively, you can ignore my posts or block me.

*Is there a moral culpability to drive a player into the ground at his expense, but the betterment of the franchise, and then trade him without warning?  I think so.  We could also question Kyrie's moral compass in the way he forced his way out of Cleveland and into a very cushy situation.

Fair enough. Sorry for attacking you personally.

I completely disagree with your assessment of the situation. It seems like you have viewed the situation in the most negative way possible. Your own bias about the modern NBA seems to shaded your view about Irving.

I love when players play through injuries too. I just don't expect them to do it in November or when its a concussion. Play through ankle sprains and muscle strains and joint pains and inflamation, but I would not play through concussion symptoms. Its a long season. I don't even mind if a guy sits out a game or two in December so they are fresher-less-injury-ridden around the playoffs.

As far as IT goes, there's just so much we don't know. It sounds like he pushed to play as long as he could. I don't love the way it was handled either, but what if he did sit? It probably would have significantly helped his value going into his contract year, but you don't like that. Instead, he played through it and probably cost himself tens of millions of dollars.

There has to be some times when it is ok to sit, right? If it costs your long-term availability to your team, especially come playoffs, or if it costs you years off your career, or if it costs your family tens of millions of dollars, or if it costs your own mental capabilities, it has to at least be considered, right?
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: azzenfrost on November 11, 2017, 11:27:18 PM
Bummed about Kyrie. Accidents happen but man the C's get really bad luck with injuries. This is what? 2-3 weeks?
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Fafnir on November 11, 2017, 11:28:31 PM
The idea that Irving should have returned from such a blow to the head when they were concerned with facial damage and/or concussion is a myopic one from my perspective.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Fafnir on November 11, 2017, 11:29:58 PM
Bummed about Kyrie. Accidents happen but man the C's get really bad luck with injuries. This is what? 2-3 weeks?
No he'll miss tomorrows game it sounds like then play for 2/3 weeks with a mask to prevent further damage till the facial fracture heals.

I thought he had a broken nose and would need a mask when I saw the play live.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 12, 2017, 12:11:52 AM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

By "played" you mean you were the guy at the end of the bench furthest from the coach?

This is the NBA. You don't play injured unless it's the playoffs.

Starting PG -- sup now?  I also dated the head cheerleader.  She left me for a hockey player.

Let's please try to keep it civil here.  I shouldn't have to explain how good I was at basketball, how many injuries I played with, etc. 

IT played injury for what was likely the majority of the season, and he carried the team on his back the whole time.  What a meaningful and recent comparison.

This is the biggest revelation of the thread for me. How do you lose your girl to a hockey player in the US, let alone the South?!

EDIT: I mean, I lost my longtime high school girlfriend to a drug dealer that ended up dishonorably discharged from the Army, but at least he wasn't a HOCKEY player!  :P

Hah.  I was in MA through high school, but I'm not sure that's any better.  In hindsight, I couldn't compete--role reversal, I'd have chosen that dude too.  Your story sounds equally rough, but maybe it helped us all build character (including that guy).  Were you a hockey player??
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: jdz101 on November 12, 2017, 12:47:42 AM
The idea that Irving should have returned from such a blow to the head when they were concerned with facial damage and/or concussion is a myopic one from my perspective.

Its just one poster who is obssessed to the point where trolling Kyrie has become a 9-5.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: GreenWarrior on November 12, 2017, 01:26:10 AM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

I love "fans" who put their own agendas ahead of what's better for the team. and Kyrie was/is better for the team. if you fail to see that you should probably be a fan of another team.

you're bitter, I get it. you were backing a team that won a lot of games only because the east is weak and then when they finally played the best in the east the truth came out - they weren't even close and shouldn't have been on the same court.

and on top of it many of us that tried to tell you bitter fans at the time that "these players aren't as good as you think they are, and were easily replaceable" turned out to be true.

one thing that you guys who were sooo invested in these easily replaceable players failed to realize is this. while that group played hard you forgot to acknowledge that players with talent can play hard too. that's why that team was always going to lose in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: jdz101 on November 12, 2017, 01:33:02 AM
He's missing one game and coming back to play with a mask after that.

Any BS about Kyrie's toughness should be quelled considering this is the second time he'll be playing with a broken face.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: gouki88 on November 12, 2017, 02:15:01 AM
The idea that Irving should have returned from such a blow to the head when they were concerned with facial damage and/or concussion is a myopic one from my perspective.

Its just one poster who is obssessed to the point where trolling Kyrie has become a 9-5.
It's hilariously exhausting. Not worth the energy to respond
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: wayupnorth on November 12, 2017, 02:36:51 AM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

By "played" you mean you were the guy at the end of the bench furthest from the coach?

This is the NBA. You don't play injured unless it's the playoffs.

Starting PG -- sup now?  I also dated the head cheerleader.  She left me for a hockey player.

Let's please try to keep it civil here.  I shouldn't have to explain how good I was at basketball, how many injuries I played with, etc. 

IT played injury for what was likely the majority of the season, and he carried the team on his back the whole time.  What a meaningful and recent comparison.

Lol Kyrie is the better player, and anyone who disagrees, disagrees with 30 out of 30 NBA GM's.

Your salt levels are astronomical.

You talk about keeping it civil, but hating on your favorite teams best player isn't exactly usual, or something thay goes over well on blogs for fans if that team.

This team is so much better off now, than we were 6 months ago .

That is pretty much indisputable.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Billz401 on November 12, 2017, 07:55:07 AM
I doubt anyone here questions IT's toughness after what he went thru last postseason, but just to correct you his sister passed away day before playoffs started against bulls and lost his tooth in 2nd round against wizards. But still unbelievable will power from the little guy.

But I hate when people have this notion of how long a person is supposed to grieve a lost loved one or recover from an injury.. It's like you think someone has x-amount of time to come back or they're soft. Michael Kidd Gilchrist took off over a week and missed 3 games to grieve his grandmother's passing, I believe Gorman mentioned during the game, does that make him soft because he didn't play the day after like Isaiah did? People roll their ankles all the time, heck LeBron had a pretty bad one against Houston the other night and I don't think he even missed a play whereas others might not have came back in or even missed a game or 2, does that make them soft? And I mean Kyrie has a facial fracture, I can imagine the pain is pretty bad and there's no real way to get treatment on it, it's just hey try not to get hit in the face again bud.

I just think it's ridiculous to compare one person's experience to another's. We all deal with pain and grievance differently, there's no gage to go off of, cut the kid some slack..
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: RockinRyA on November 12, 2017, 08:31:40 AM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

Wait, so because you probably either had bad advice, or was being stubborn or stupid, doing otherwise make you soft?

IT played through injury, look where he is now, cannot help his own team. Our staff got fired for mishandling several injuries, but no, it fits your narrative against Kyrie.

Your vendetta against Kyrie is so pathetic and laughable. Lots of people don't like Kyrie but they don't stoop this low.

What IT was brave and commendable, but I honestly dont encourage anyone to do that, nor I expect everyone to do it. Its your career that's on the line, dont take chances.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: moiso on November 12, 2017, 09:48:43 AM
He's making it really, really easy for me. 

Why did he leave at halftime, exactly?  It doesn't seem like it was medical care -- or that medical care was even needed -- so how is that excusable?  I get that he has a lot to do with his twitter and IG, but that's not the time for it.  He then sends the team a congratulatory group text?  Seems like insult to fake injury.

It's pitiful that some of these cupcakes choose not to play with minor injuries.  Again, Baynes took a shot on a broken nose last season and just laughed it off.  IT got his tooth knocked out, picked it up, and drilled a 3 on the next possession (day after sister died).  But this is your modern NBA, folks.  A lot of these guys are incredibly soft, pampered, and selfish.

Lol what's the worst injury you ever had? Twisted an ankle once or twice? Love it when idiots come out to voice their opinions.

My senior year of high school, I played for a couple of months with a broken hand and hamstring tendon tear.  This was two weeks after my father passed away unexpectedly.
Edit: Forgot that I also had tendinitis in both wrists.

Wait, so because you probably either had bad advice, or was being stubborn or stupid, doing otherwise make you soft?

IT played through injury, look where he is now, cannot help his own team. Our staff got fired for mishandling several injuries, but no, it fits your narrative against Kyrie.

Your vendetta against Kyrie is so pathetic and laughable. Lots of people don't like Kyrie but they don't stoop this low.

What IT was brave and commendable, but I honestly dont encourage anyone to do that, nor I expect everyone to do it. Its your career that's on the line, dont take chances.
Bad advice, stubborn/stupid... But he also has a sense of humor and may not be serious.  He could be trolling like some people think his favorite player Kyrie does.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Erik on November 12, 2017, 10:05:59 AM
I'm actually putting a lot of thought and consideration into these posts.  And I'm sure there are silent posters out there that agree with some aspects of my perspective on Kyrie, the modern NBA, the IT trade, etc.  It's unfortunate that replies tend to only come from naysayers, and often in the form of personal attacks.

You're actually not. You're attempting to make a point about resting an injured franchise player in the regular season by citing what you (imo, stupidly) did against high schoolers. If this were in the finals, he'd get patched up, put a mask on and return to play. But not to beat the Hornets in game 13 of 82.

Furthermore, I believe that you have a problem with him because he's from Duke and you're a Tarheels fan. We know how that rivalry goes.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: More Banners on November 12, 2017, 10:24:42 AM
Watching McHale walk, 30 years after playing on a broken foot, keeping in mind that he never played in another Finals after that, and it's an easy call for me.

Playing hurt is one thing. Suck it up.

Playing injured, on the other hand, is just stupid.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 12, 2017, 10:38:02 AM
Hope he gets well and gets a few games off.

We've built a nice early season cushion...I certainly didn't expect 11-2 after the GH injury and I'm happy.

I'd rather be safe with Kyrie (and Big Al) and give them time.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: bellerephon on November 12, 2017, 11:25:12 AM
The nature of the injury matters as well, a fracture in the face could get much worse, season ending, if he gets hit again before it heals up a bit. He may even need to wear a mask when he comes back. I suspect the medical staff told IT he could play through his injury as long as the pain wasn't too bad. It's not a question of toughness, it's a question of the type of injury.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tenn_smoothie on November 12, 2017, 07:11:34 PM
I understand not playing yet. Seems smart to be careful, especially this early in the regular season. Facial fracture sounds serious enough.

However, the leaving at halftime, the group text, then not showing up for Toronto game - I do not like any of that.

He wants to be the big dog of a team and the next great Celtic ? Then act like it.
Do what KG, Bird, Cowens and Russell would have done.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: billysan on November 13, 2017, 11:09:53 AM
Ok, so what's the latest for Kyrie or anyone else on the roster playing  or not against the Nets?
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: cman88 on November 13, 2017, 11:29:54 AM
last I read, he was getting fitted for a mask yesterday which is why he was out but should be back against brooklyn.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Fafnir on November 13, 2017, 11:45:19 AM
last I read, he was getting fitted for a mask yesterday which is why he was out but should be back against brooklyn.
This is what I read as well. To add some further detail he was having the mask fitted and having the facial fracture looked at by a specialist to get cleared to play with it. We haven't heard anything about that consultation but assuming it went well he's good to go for Tuesday.

The only hold up is that they're concerned about a delayed concussion presenting given how hard he got hit. That would be what would hold him out of playing tomorrow afaik, he wakes up with a headache and sore neck like Horford did.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: hpantazo on November 13, 2017, 12:08:31 PM
I understand not playing yet. Seems smart to be careful, especially this early in the regular season. Facial fracture sounds serious enough.

However, the leaving at halftime, the group text, then not showing up for Toronto game - I do not like any of that.

He wants to be the big dog of a team and the next great Celtic ? Then act like it.
Do what KG, Bird, Cowens and Russell would have done.

KG actually had a hard time convincing himself to attend games and sit on th team bench after his knee injury. There wer many games at first that he just did not show up to.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Moranis on November 13, 2017, 12:18:36 PM
best part about tarheels post is that he thinks a broken face is a minor injury. 
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 13, 2017, 01:01:19 PM
best part about tarheels post is that he thinks a broken face is a minor injury.

I've never heard of a "minor facial fracture" -- is that a thing?  I'm not sure I buy it as more than an excuse presented in the media to explain a guy's decision to leave a game at halftime with a bloody nose. As I stated earlier, a player currently on our roster laughed off a blow to his broken nose.  There's clearly a big difference to the way NBA players approach their profession, which was a broader point I've alluded to across several posts. 

And again, ultimately, it was poor form for him to leave the game at halftime.  But he's a "star" cupcake, and that's why it's okay.  Sorry that I'm not okay with that.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: ChillyWilly on November 13, 2017, 01:06:21 PM
best part about tarheels post is that he thinks a broken face is a minor injury.

I've never heard of a "minor facial fracture" -- is that a thing?  I'm not sure I buy it as more than an excuse presented in the media to explain a guy's decision to leave a game at halftime with a bloody nose. As I stated earlier, a player currently on our roster laughed off a blow to his broken nose.  There's clearly a big difference to the way NBA players approach their profession, which was a broader point I've alluded to across several posts. 

And again, ultimately, it was poor form for him to leave the game at halftime.  But he's a "star" cupcake, and that's why it's okay.  Sorry that I'm not okay with that.

I won't lie you've definitely made my days far more entertaining. I look forward to where you take this wonderful journey next.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 13, 2017, 01:15:12 PM
best part about tarheels post is that he thinks a broken face is a minor injury.

I've never heard of a "minor facial fracture" -- is that a thing?  I'm not sure I buy it as more than an excuse presented in the media to explain a guy's decision to leave a game at halftime with a bloody nose. As I stated earlier, a player currently on our roster laughed off a blow to his broken nose.  There's clearly a big difference to the way NBA players approach their profession, which was a broader point I've alluded to across several posts. 

And again, ultimately, it was poor form for him to leave the game at halftime.  But he's a "star" cupcake, and that's why it's okay.  Sorry that I'm not okay with that.

I won't lie you've definitely made my days far more entertaining. I look forward to where you take this wonderful journey next.

Appreciate it.  To be honest, I also find this role to be pretty entertaining.  I'm just playing devil's advocate here.  Our forum would be pretty boring, or nonexistent, without that back and forth imo.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Fafnir on November 13, 2017, 01:17:38 PM
Eh, when you're posting about how you believe the silent constituency of lurkers agree with you its pretty clear you're loving the reaction.

You aren't the first or the last, I look forward to your self aggrandizing retirement posts in the future.

(http://4.media.bustedtees.cvcdn.com/c/-/bustedtees.144ff9bc-01d6-4301-8df6-ca61ceb8.gif)
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: jpotter33 on November 13, 2017, 01:24:47 PM
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/930137579449667584

Kyrie is with team on the way to Brooklyn, and he's considered questionable for tomorrow, though Souza seems to think he'll play.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: JohnBoy65 on November 13, 2017, 01:50:01 PM
Is Larbird back? This is all I could think of when tarheel went rambling on about personal successes and difficulties.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 13, 2017, 01:52:14 PM
Is Larbird back? This is all I could think of when tarheel went rambling on about personal successes and difficulties.

I was directly asked those questions in a combative way. Now you're using that against me? 

That's just a classic case of cherry picking comments, without any context, to throw shade at another poster simply because you disagree with their perspective. 
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: CelticD on November 13, 2017, 01:58:24 PM
Is Larbird back? This is all I could think of when tarheel went rambling on about personal successes and difficulties.

I was directly asked those questions in a combative way.  I reported several of those posters for the tone.  Now you're using that against me? 

Please don't turn this into another thread where you're cherry picking comments I've made, without any context, to throw shade at me because you simply disagree with my perspective.

I gave you a TP earlier in the thread because I knew your comment would elicit unfavorable responses from several posters but I do appreciate you standing by your position, even if I personally don't agree with it. Hold another TP
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: JohnBoy65 on November 13, 2017, 01:58:54 PM
Is Larbird back? This is all I could think of when tarheel went rambling on about personal successes and difficulties.

I was directly asked those questions in a combative way.  I reported several of those posters for the tone.  Now you're using that against me? 

Please don't turn this into another thread where you're cherry picking comments I've made, without any context, to throw shade at me because you simply disagree with my perspective.

Last I checked making a comparison isn't 'throwing shade' any anyone. If you chose not to like the comparison that's a you problem. I also said nothing of your perspective in my post, so you're wrong again.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 13, 2017, 02:06:00 PM
Is Larbird back? This is all I could think of when tarheel went rambling on about personal successes and difficulties.

I was directly asked those questions in a combative way.  I reported several of those posters for the tone.  Now you're using that against me? 

Please don't turn this into another thread where you're cherry picking comments I've made, without any context, to throw shade at me because you simply disagree with my perspective.

Last I checked making a comparison isn't 'throwing shade' any anyone. If you chose not to like the comparison that's a you problem. I also said nothing of your perspective in my post, so you're wrong again.

Cherry picking is your thing, huh?  I bet you never got back on defense...

The highlighted was the meat and potatoes of your post.  Let's not pretend otherwise.  The one thing I've avoided this entire time is personal attacks, imo.  So again, I was baited into sharing personal information as an intentional tangent that was later cherry-picked, out of context, and used against me.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Fafnir on November 13, 2017, 02:14:32 PM
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/930137579449667584

Kyrie is with team on the way to Brooklyn, and he's considered questionable for tomorrow, though Souza seems to think he'll play.
This is good to hear confirmed, as well as the team has played overall this season I'd really like to see the offense click a bit more. Hard to do that when either Irving or Horford are out.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: JohnBoy65 on November 13, 2017, 02:16:19 PM
Is Larbird back? This is all I could think of when tarheel went rambling on about personal successes and difficulties.

I was directly asked those questions in a combative way.  I reported several of those posters for the tone.  Now you're using that against me? 

Please don't turn this into another thread where you're cherry picking comments I've made, without any context, to throw shade at me because you simply disagree with my perspective.

Last I checked making a comparison isn't 'throwing shade' any anyone. If you chose not to like the comparison that's a you problem. I also said nothing of your perspective in my post, so you're wrong again.

Cherry picking is your thing, huh?  I bet you never got back on defense...

The highlighted was the meat and potatoes of your post.  Let's not pretend otherwise.  The one thing I've avoided this entire time is personal attacks, imo.  So again, I was baited into sharing personal information as an intentional tangent that was later cherry-picked, out of context, and used against me.

Again, I was comparing the way you posted to another user. If you think that's an attack on your integrity or throwing shade that's your problem. Your posting, in this thread in particular, reminds of LarBirds.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: nickagneta on November 13, 2017, 02:17:01 PM
Let's keep on the subject and enough with the personal stuff.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Vermont Green on November 13, 2017, 02:31:55 PM
It seems like there are two issues here.  The first one is should he have gone back in the game with a broken nose and maybe a concussion.  If I ran the team, I would not have put him back in.

The second question is should he have left the arena before the game was over.  That is a tougher issue.  I think he probably should have stuck around but I am not overly offended or questioning his character over this.  I doubt his teammates are either.  It seems fair to raise this as a question though.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 13, 2017, 03:13:44 PM
I doubt I would have wanted to stay on the bench with blood flying everywhere if I was Kyrie .  The noise , lights , , all add to the stress of something like that happening .  Your face has just been bashed in , bone fractured , why would you want to stay and suffer in public in a loud stressful enviroment .   Thats not helping anything .

for a regular season game ......no way .  ...best get home and start the recovery . Get some meds and try and dettle down .  He took a awsome whack .

Playoffs i know people play with horrific injuries .   This was not a life or death game .

what if somebody accidentally bumps you again .  No way .....the safe bet is to protect the i jury , go home , get out of the crowds and harms way.

Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 13, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
Im not super OK with the implication statement that this is a "fake injury"

Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: manl_lui on November 13, 2017, 03:51:39 PM
Im not super OK with the implication statement that this is a "fake injury"

maybe some people who are doubting this needs to get elbowed in the face by accident. I mean Zeller gave Horfrod a concussion and they are pretty much the same height. Baynes is taller and heavier than Irving so the force Irving received is definitely a lot greater...we are lucky he didn't get a concussion out of it or else he might be out a lot longer
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 13, 2017, 04:09:52 PM
Im not super OK with the implication statement that this is a "fake injury"

I'm not comfortable assuming that what the media reports is always accurate.  I've also never heard of a player leaving a game at halftime because he/she was bumped in the nose.  Very poor form from a "leader."

Im not super OK with the implication statement that this is a "fake injury"

maybe some people who are doubting this needs to get elbowed in the face by accident. I mean Zeller gave Horfrod a concussion and they are pretty much the same height. Baynes is taller and heavier than Irving so the force Irving received is definitely a lot greater...we are lucky he didn't get a concussion out of it or else he might be out a lot longer

That's a nice comment, but I believe you missed the comment below:

Let's keep on the subject and enough with the personal stuff.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 13, 2017, 04:16:41 PM
There is zero reason for us to fake an injury as we are already short staffed.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: celticsclay on November 13, 2017, 04:17:49 PM
This is a truly beautiful thread.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: GratefulCs on November 13, 2017, 04:22:15 PM
Im not super OK with the implication statement that this is a "fake injury"

I'm not comfortable assuming that what the media reports is always accurate.  I've also never heard of a player leaving a game at halftime because he/she was bumped in the nose. Very poor form from a "leader."

Im not super OK with the implication statement that this is a "fake injury"

maybe some people who are doubting this needs to get elbowed in the face by accident. I mean Zeller gave Horfrod a concussion and they are pretty much the same height. Baynes is taller and heavier than Irving so the force Irving received is definitely a lot greater...we are lucky he didn't get a concussion out of it or else he might be out a lot longer

That's a nice comment, but I believe you missed the comment below:

Let's keep on the subject and enough with the personal stuff.
wow

Baynes just "tapped" him, right?

Lol
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: GreenShooter on November 13, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
This is a truly beautiful thread.
Yeah, makes want to elbow some people in the face due to some stupid comments/accusations levied in Kyrie's direction. YES, he IS a leader. If someone has issues with him than it is surely agenda driven. There's just too much to list and a lot of it has already been said. Some should stop posting because it makes them looks VERY silly.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 13, 2017, 04:35:52 PM
Im not super OK with the implication statement that this is a "fake injury"

I'm not comfortable assuming that what the media reports is always accurate.  I've also never heard of a player leaving a game at halftime because he/she was bumped in the nose.  Very poor form from a "leader."
So to be clear, your logic behind this is that the media covering the Celtics is fake news?

Kyrie Irving is perfectly fine and is missing games and wearing a mask because the Celtics medical staff, coaches and media have come together to create a wall to hide Irving's fake injury from the public.

Irving will wear the mask because it looks cool.
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 13, 2017, 04:39:07 PM
Im not super OK with the implication statement that this is a "fake injury"

I'm not comfortable assuming that what the media reports is always accurate.  I've also never heard of a player leaving a game at halftime because he/she was bumped in the nose. Very poor form from a "leader."

Im not super OK with the implication statement that this is a "fake injury"

maybe some people who are doubting this needs to get elbowed in the face by accident. I mean Zeller gave Horfrod a concussion and they are pretty much the same height. Baynes is taller and heavier than Irving so the force Irving received is definitely a lot greater...we are lucky he didn't get a concussion out of it or else he might be out a lot longer

That's a nice comment, but I believe you missed the comment below:

Let's keep on the subject and enough with the personal stuff.
wow

Baynes just "tapped" him, right?

Lol
One hell of a bump
Title: Re: Kyrie Irving Diagnosed with Minor Facial Fracture After Game
Post by: nickagneta on November 13, 2017, 05:16:48 PM
This thread is going nowhere. Locked.