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Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2010, 04:25:21 PM »

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Eh, I have a feeling if Doc leaves, it is because this team's window is closed, and I really do not like Larry Brown on non-championship level teams.  He is the type of coach that likes a certain type of player, and often gives talent to get that.  

I also don't know if Brown would be that interested in coming here, since he likes total control, and he would not get that with Danny on board.

I dont necessarily want Brown here but I definitely think there would be a high level of interest from both sides. He almost came on board before we got Thibs before the 08 season.

I wouldnt mind some new coaching blood in here. A former player preferably who is looking to break into the ranks. Anyone have any good suggestions?

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2010, 04:53:53 PM »

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Eh, I have a feeling if Doc leaves, it is because this team's window is closed, and I really do not like Larry Brown on non-championship level teams.  He is the type of coach that likes a certain type of player, and often gives talent to get that.  

I also don't know if Brown would be that interested in coming here, since he likes total control, and he would not get that with Danny on board.

I dont necessarily want Brown here but I definitely think there would be a high level of interest from both sides. He almost came on board before we got Thibs before the 08 season.

I wouldnt mind some new coaching blood in here. A former player preferably who is looking to break into the ranks. Anyone have any good suggestions?

I think the team was in a dramatically different position in the summer of 2007, and right now.  I think on both sides, they are going to be looking at a transition, and I don't think it is the ideal situation for a guy like Larry Brown.

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2010, 05:33:19 PM »

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I'm not sure how much next year's really going to BE a transition year, though.  KG will still be here.  Pierce will still be here.  'Sheed will still be here.  Rondo will still be here.  Perk will probably still be here.  Ray will (I think) likely be here on a two-year extension.

I don't think the "transition" starts for at least another year, and doesn't really take hold until KG and 'Sheed's contracts expire (or they trade them).  Until then, we're going to be a veteran squad that's too old to realistically contend - but they aren't going to tank the season, either.  They'll be on the downward side of "title contender," but trying to squeeze out as many wins as they can.  Kinda like the late teams of the Original Big Three era, only without having a Reggie Lewis around (unless we get REALLY lucky in the draft).

We're not going to be in "rebuild" mode because we don't have anyone other than Rondo to rebuild around (and because we can't unload our old guys, even if we wanted to).

As I see it, LB would be out stopgap coach, to squeeze as much as possible out of the current core, knowing he would likely leave before the REAL rebuilding starts in 2012.

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2010, 06:51:55 AM »

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What about an old friend... KEVIN MCHALE.

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2010, 07:03:17 AM »

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I would be more than happy seeing Tom Thib step up to the plate, he has more than proven his worth as an assistant and definitely deserves an opportunity as a Head coach

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2010, 08:16:32 AM »

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I'd be happy with Larry Brown or Kevin McHale, so long as we retain our vets and are considered contenders next year.  Call me crazy, but I'm still not a huge Doc fan, and would actually be happier if Larry or Kevin were coaching the team next year.  Outside of that there are a few coaches I'd consider a "wash", and some like JVG who I'd like if this weren't a veteran team.

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2010, 08:34:15 AM »

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Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2010, 09:38:21 AM »

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I would love to see Larry Brown, but I fear he would bring Iverson with him  ;D
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Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2010, 09:59:25 AM »

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I don't like Larry Brown for the Celtics. Would love to see Jeff Van Gundy get a crack at it, if only if we can get to see once again him clinging to someone's leg in a fight.

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2010, 10:22:04 AM »

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Coaches who've been fired always seem to get another job because they are "experienced", even when they've done a crappy job.

Are there any assistant coaches out there who merit a shot at a head coaching job (aside from Thibideau)?
Heinson coached the C's to a championship without prior experience, as did Russell.  (But M.L.Carr didn't.)

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2010, 10:53:20 AM »

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As much as I like Tibs, I don't want him as a head coach.

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2010, 11:04:20 AM »

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Coaches who've been fired always seem to get another job because they are "experienced", even when they've done a crappy job.

Are there any assistant coaches out there who merit a shot at a head coaching job (aside from Thibideau)?
Heinson coached the C's to a championship without prior experience, as did Russell.  (But M.L.Carr didn't.)

Assuming the team's core is going to be the same next year (KG, Pierce, Rondo, Perk, 'Sheed, probably Ray), why would you bring in someone without any head coashing experience?  We're not going to BE in a full-on rebuilding mode next year, it's going to be a matter of squeezing as much as we can out of an aging roster while hoping we get lucky in the draft.  You've got to bring in someone that's got some respect among the veterans, especially replacing a coach that seems to be as popular among his players as Doc. 

Larry Brown, I think would have that respect; Jeff Van Gundy, I think would as well.

Bringing in a guy with no head coaching experience, to handle the personalities in the Celtics locker room...  to deal with Pierce likely growing frustrated as he sees the team begin retooling...  dealing with 'Sheeds stubbornness...  deal with Rondo's hardheadness...  does not sound like a good situation for a n00b coach.

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2010, 11:09:22 AM »

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As much as I like Tibs, I don't want him as a head coach.

Me neither.  Although if they are going to go in a rebuilding direction for a couple years, I wouldn't mind giving him a shot.  I don't have much confidence in his ability to lead a team to a championship right now (you shouldn't ask any first time head coach for that), but there would be some benefits to giving him the shot over some other "rebuilding" coach (meaning cheap).  

First, we know he is a darn good teacher.  He knows defense, and he teaches it as well as anyone.  

Second, it shows some good will towards the guys who got them the championship.  This might help to keep a guy like Clifford Ray on staff, which IMO is incredibly important, since he is one of the, if not the best big man coaches in the game.  If we are going to eventually replace KG, I think Ray will be immensely valuable.  

And finally, why not?  If they are rebuilding (or reloading, whatever you want to call it), it probably means they are going to have at least a couple bad years.  So it is unlikely that the coach you have over the time is going to be sticking around for when they are good again.  Why not give Thibs, who has been the good soldier, a chance.  He is not going to cost a lot of money, and worst comes to worst, they fire him.

Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2010, 11:17:36 AM »

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Re: Best option if Doc goes: Larry Brown
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2010, 11:46:00 AM »

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Paul Pierce, what are your thoughts about playing center? :'(
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