Shams: Porzingis to Boston?

[Big333223]

Save him for the conference finals.

Celtics should still be able to coast thru the next round without him.

I think the Celtics would still be favored against either team that comes out of the 4/5 matchup, but doubt they’d be able to coast without KP.  Luckily they do have a decent amount of experience playing without him, but he playoffs are a different animal and the reason they got him in the first place; Al, Luke and Xavier will need to step up, but the Jays will need to take it to another level as well

Well it'd be nice if the coach actually played Tillman. I will say, if you want to combat Bam's physicality for some minutes, Tillman would be the perfect guy even if it's for some hard fouls or to make Bam work for his shots

I don't understand why he's not getting any burn at all.  Shades of last season when our bench was massively underutilized.

Also, I'm irritated that they didn't take out KP when he first started limping.  Then, they continued to play him after a collision on the perimeter.  Why?!

Yeah Kornet is for some reason ahead of Tillman.  Imagine Tillman is not as caught up with defensive rotations or something.  I would prefer him to get time as I did like his game last year with MEM, but overall I think the minutes are okay for our starters.

Porzingis was around 30ish minutes a game coming in
White and Brown around 35
Holiday around 36
Tatum around 40

If you compare that to some other coaches that we talk about like Nurse and Vogel then I actually think the Celtics have done a better job with their minutes.  Come playoff time I prefer to stick to a tight 8 man rotation when possible. Especially because I do think there is a legit drop off from PP, Hauser and Horford.  It is different with a team like the Heat who have a whole lot of meh guys and they just need to throw a bunch out there and see what sticks.

I'm guessing but my guess is that Kornet is ahead of Tillman because if there's going to be a "non-shooter" on the floor, they'd rather it be someone with legit center size who can catch lobs.

That said, I've also been a little surprised at no Tillman. I like Tillman and he seems like exactly the kind of guy the C's would want on the floor to deal with the physicality of the Heat and Bam, specifically.

[SparzWizard]

So, visiting back this thread...did we end up losing this trade now that he has a torn medial retinaculum?

We lost Marcus Smart, Danilo Gallinari, Mike Muscala, and pick for Porzingis

[Celtics2021]

So, visiting back this thread...did we end up losing this trade now that he has a torn medial retinaculum?

We lost Marcus Smart, Danilo Gallinari, Mike Muscala, and pick for Porzingis

Porzingis played about as many minutes as those three combined, and the injury does not seem terribly serious from a long-term perspective, so nope, we still win.  Also, we got two 1sts in this deal that we turned into a bajillion seconds and part of Jrue Holiday.  So a mega-win, actually.

[blink]

So, visiting back this thread...did we end up losing this trade now that he has a torn medial retinaculum?

We lost Marcus Smart, Danilo Gallinari, Mike Muscala, and pick for Porzingis

Porzingis played about as many minutes as those three combined, and the injury does not seem terribly serious from a long-term perspective, so nope, we still win.  Also, we got two 1sts in this deal that we turned into a bajillion seconds and part of Jrue Holiday.  So a mega-win, actually.

Yeah we won that trade.  Bonus points if KP can help us close out Dallas.

All our good play lately makes me wonder how we will be next year?  (even better?)  I know a question for another time...I really love this team.

[boscel33]

So, visiting back this thread...did we end up losing this trade now that he has a torn medial retinaculum?

We lost Marcus Smart, Danilo Gallinari, Mike Muscala, and pick for Porzingis

You're missing pieces of the deal. 

Celtics receive:

Kristaps Porzingis (via Wizards)
No. 25 pick in 2023 Draft (via Grizzlies)
2024 first-round pick (top-four protected, via Warriors)

Grizzlies receive:

Marcus Smart (via Celtics)

Wizards receive:

Tyus Jones (via Grizzlies)
Danilo Gallinari (via Celtics)
Mike Muscala (via Celtics)
No. 35 pick in 2023 Draft (via Celtics)

The C's got two first round picks and KP in this trade.  Now, Brad became trader Brad and weaved his way down the board in 2023, but we still have the 2024 1st.

Yeah, the C's won this trade!

[Roy H.]

So, visiting back this thread...did we end up losing this trade now that he has a torn medial retinaculum?

We lost Marcus Smart, Danilo Gallinari, Mike Muscala, and pick for Porzingis

You're missing pieces of the deal. 

Celtics receive:

Kristaps Porzingis (via Wizards)
No. 25 pick in 2023 Draft (via Grizzlies)
2024 first-round pick (top-four protected, via Warriors)

Grizzlies receive:

Marcus Smart (via Celtics)

Wizards receive:

Tyus Jones (via Grizzlies)
Danilo Gallinari (via Celtics)
Mike Muscala (via Celtics)
No. 35 pick in 2023 Draft (via Celtics)

The C's got two first round picks and KP in this trade.  Now, Brad became trader Brad and weaved his way down the board in 2023, but we still have the 2024 1st.

Yeah, the C's won this trade!

We traded the 2024 1st in the Jrue deal.

[Birdman]

Win a championship? It?s a win no doubt

[boscel33]

So, visiting back this thread...did we end up losing this trade now that he has a torn medial retinaculum?

We lost Marcus Smart, Danilo Gallinari, Mike Muscala, and pick for Porzingis

You're missing pieces of the deal. 

Celtics receive:

Kristaps Porzingis (via Wizards)
No. 25 pick in 2023 Draft (via Grizzlies)
2024 first-round pick (top-four protected, via Warriors)

Grizzlies receive:

Marcus Smart (via Celtics)

Wizards receive:

Tyus Jones (via Grizzlies)
Danilo Gallinari (via Celtics)
Mike Muscala (via Celtics)
No. 35 pick in 2023 Draft (via Celtics)

The C's got two first round picks and KP in this trade.  Now, Brad became trader Brad and weaved his way down the board in 2023, but we still have the 2024 1st.

Yeah, the C's won this trade!

We traded the 2024 1st in the Jrue deal.

Great, even a bigger win.

[jambr380]

In a vacuum, would I have rather had a healthy Marcus Smart for this playoff run than 5 games of KP? Yes. But there are a lot of other aspects to the trade, including the 1sts we received and our record in the regular season.

Still, I'd imagine we still finish with the best record and have home court for the playoffs with Marcus. And several of the 2nds we received for the 2023 1st from MEM were traded for guys who are just currently glued to the bench.

I still think we find a way to pull off the Jrue trade without that GSW 1st.

Hopefully this isn't the last we see of KP, though. If he can come back and continue to make an impact, then it'll obviously be worth it. I understand why we made the deal, but this was always the risk in trading for KP. At least he pretty much won us a game 1.