If both Brown and Tatum develop into their best case scenarios...

[MasterEmile]

Would you trade them for A.Davis ?

[crimson_stallion]

Would you trade them for A.Davis ?

Honestly?  Probably not.

I think Tatum could peak as a better defensive (and less ball hoggy) version of a prime Melo...

And I think the absolute ceiling for Jaylen Brown is somewhere in the vicinity of Derozan / Butler.

I wouldn't trade those two guys for Anthony Davis, especially given his injury history and the fact that he's seriously struggled to lead his teams to any kind of success in the win column.  People criticise Cousins for the Kings lack of success and put it down to his attitude - what's Davis' excuse?

[Greyman]

If they become best case the Celtics add banners. So no, why trade away success?

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

Would you trade them for A.Davis ?

Honestly?  Probably not.

I think Tatum could peak as a better defensive (and less ball hoggy) version of a prime Melo...

And I think the absolute ceiling for Jaylen Brown is somewhere in the vicinity of Derozan / Butler.

I wouldn't trade those two guys for Anthony Davis, especially given his injury history and the fact that he's seriously struggled to lead his teams to any kind of success in the win column.  People criticise Cousins for the Kings lack of success and put it down to his attitude - what's Davis' excuse?

Davis has tasted Playoff basketball.

[jdz101]

Would you trade them for A.Davis ?

Honestly?  Probably not.

I think Tatum could peak as a better defensive (and less ball hoggy) version of a prime Melo...

And I think the absolute ceiling for Jaylen Brown is somewhere in the vicinity of Derozan / Butler.

I wouldn't trade those two guys for Anthony Davis, especially given his injury history and the fact that he's seriously struggled to lead his teams to any kind of success in the win column.  People criticise Cousins for the Kings lack of success and put it down to his attitude - what's Davis' excuse?

Davis has tasted Playoff basketball.

Was going to say...at least AD led a team to the playoffs.

[ChillyWilly]

I think we can all agree if Tatum hits his potential dude will be special in this league BUT do we all agree if Jaylen hits his he'll be special too? I guess I struggle to see Jaylen's legit upside is.

Maybe I'm missing something with Jaythoven. I guess I see his game more in the shape of AB where he is solid at many things special at 1 or 2 and struggles a bit with couple. No one will call AB special but he has a place in this league can be a valuable asset to a playoff team.

I'm not down on Jaylen I like many parts of his game but unless he makes a Jimmy Butler leap I'm not seeing him being a multi time all-star.

[Roy H.]

Best case scenario? So Paul Pierce and Jimmy Butler?

That's a tough trade to make. But, if they're both at that level, you only need to trade one. With Hayward on the roster, you obviously make that deal.

[pearljammer10]

I think we can all agree if Tatum hits his potential dude will be special in this league BUT do we all agree if Jaylen hits his he'll be special too? I guess I struggle to see Jaylen's legit upside is.

Maybe I'm missing something with Jaythoven. I guess I see his game more in the shape of AB where he is solid at many things special at 1 or 2 and struggles a bit with couple. No one will call AB special but he has a place in this league can be a valuable asset to a playoff team.

I'm not down on Jaylen I like many parts of his game but unless he makes a Jimmy Butler leap I'm not seeing him being a multi time all-star.

I'm not really sure I follow. Brown had a much better rookie season than Butler did and he's three years younger than Butler was as a rookie. He's also much more developed than AB was as a rookie. AB was a solid defensive specialist from the start but it took him years to be able to produce anything offensively other than a solid baseline cut. Brown has a high ceiling, much higher than ABs.

[Moranis]

Yes because even if they hit their best case they are both like 5 or 6 years away from even entering their prime and there is no guarantee they will be Celtics or have a team good enough to win a title, whereas if you added Davis to Hayward and Irving, that is a team that is good enough to win a title this year and at any time over the next 5 or 6 seasons. 

[MasterEmile]

Yes because even if they hit their best case they are both like 5 or 6 years away from even entering their prime and there is no guarantee they will be Celtics or have a team good enough to win a title, whereas if you added Davis to Hayward and Irving, that is a team that is good enough to win a title this year and at any time over the next 5 or 6 seasons.

But in 5 or 6 years J and J will be the stars of the team while hayward and kyrie are hitting the tail end of their primes... that would net us continued success.

[Moranis]

Yes because even if they hit their best case they are both like 5 or 6 years away from even entering their prime and there is no guarantee they will be Celtics or have a team good enough to win a title, whereas if you added Davis to Hayward and Irving, that is a team that is good enough to win a title this year and at any time over the next 5 or 6 seasons.

But in 5 or 6 years J and J will be the stars of the team while hayward and kyrie are hitting the tail end of their primes... that would net us continued success.

Maybe, maybe not.  Under your scenario, is Boston going to pay max contracts to Tatum and Brown, when it still has Hayward and Irving making max contracts?  I can't see a team surviving with 4 max contracts, so at least one of the older players won't be there (if either is).  6 years from now, Tatum and Brown are both on their second contracts.  Who says, they stay for a 3rd or that they are even worth a max extension when their 1st is up (maybe they are later bloomers and thus aren't even on Boston)? 

If the premise was next season they will enter their prime as their best case scenario, that is completely different then projecting them to be the best case scenario with the more typical prime ages of 26-32.  They are both realistically a long way from their prime.  A lot can happen between now and then.  And what if their best case scenario is Carmelo Anthony (Tatum) and Paul Pierce (Brown)?  Is that type of pairing a championship pairing anyway?

If you have a realistic shot at creating a championship level team for some future unknown, you absolutely have to do it every single time.  If it is Brown, Tatum, and salary filler for Davis, you absolutely 100% do that even if you know for a fact Brown and Tatum reach their full potential.  It is a no brainer.

[Donoghus]

If they both reach their "best case" scenarios, then you're overpaying by trading them both for Davis.

[Donoghus]

Also, if both develop into their best case scenarios, along with Irving & Hayward still on the team, odds are that you've already won a title.

[Moranis]

Also, if both develop into their best case scenarios, along with Irving & Hayward still on the team, odds are that you've already won a title.

Maybe maybe not.  When do players hit their prime?  How old are Hayward and Irving going to be then or along the way to then?  Can the team realistically keep all 4?

What team has better odds of winning a title, the one with Davis, Irving, and Hayward all in their 20's or the one with Brown and Tatum in their mid-20's and who knows what else (or course that presumes that Brown and Tatum are still on the team when they hit their prime which is far from a given)?

[Donoghus]

Also, if both develop into their best case scenarios, along with Irving & Hayward still on the team, odds are that you've already won a title.

Maybe maybe not.  When do players hit their prime?  How old are Hayward and Irving going to be then or along the way to then?  Can the team realistically keep all 4?

What team has better odds of winning a title, the one with Davis, Irving, and Hayward all in their 20's or the one with Brown and Tatum in their mid-20's and who knows what else (or course that presumes that Brown and Tatum are still on the team when they hit their prime which is far from a given)?

The OP didn't define a timeline, nor a prime window.  These guys wouldn't have to necessarily be at "peak prime".  If they're going in the "best case scenario" direction, even the upward trend towards peak would be at a high level.  Most likely coming within the window of Irving/Hayward being on the team.   Hence, if that happens, I think that a title is most likely happening. 

Also,  if you're in the "best case scenario" hypothetical, it'd be an overpay to trade these two guys for Anthony Davis.