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Do you think Kahwi Leonard comes to Boston?

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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #105 on: June 15, 2018, 03:50:37 PM »

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I think many people have independently looked at the Sixers roster and came up with the same no-brainer trade:   Covington + Fultz + #10 for Kawhi.   Gonna be tough to beat that.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #106 on: June 15, 2018, 03:52:55 PM »

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I think many people have independently looked at the Sixers roster and came up with the same no-brainer trade:   Covington + Fultz + #10 for Kawhi.   Gonna be tough to beat that.

Brown + 2019 pick trumps that deal. Fultz is a nothing at this point. Covington is spot up shooter with a bloated salary.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #107 on: June 15, 2018, 03:53:50 PM »

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I think many people have independently looked at the Sixers roster and came up with the same no-brainer trade:   Covington + Fultz + #10 for Kawhi.   Gonna be tough to beat that.

What? That offer isn't even that good...
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #108 on: June 15, 2018, 03:54:32 PM »

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Look on the bright side: No matter what happens with Kawhi, we're probably done with the "three new LeBron threads on CB every day" trend.

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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #109 on: June 15, 2018, 03:55:14 PM »

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I think many people have independently looked at the Sixers roster and came up with the same no-brainer trade:   Covington + Fultz + #10 for Kawhi.   Gonna be tough to beat that.

What? That offer isn't even that good...
Fultz is still an elite prospect.  Youngest player ever to have a triple double.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #110 on: June 15, 2018, 03:55:16 PM »

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I think many people have independently looked at the Sixers roster and came up with the same no-brainer trade:   Covington + Fultz + #10 for Kawhi.   Gonna be tough to beat that.

Jaylen Brown and a Chipotle coupon would be a far better deal for Spurs.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #111 on: June 15, 2018, 03:56:19 PM »

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I think many people have independently looked at the Sixers roster and came up with the same no-brainer trade:   Covington + Fultz + #10 for Kawhi.   Gonna be tough to beat that.

What? That offer isn't even that good...
Fultz is still an elite prospect.  Youngest player ever to have a triple double.

This is great work by you. They should also find a way to get Alex Peters.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #112 on: June 15, 2018, 03:58:19 PM »

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If Danny gives up anything significant for him, he has to be ultra confident in resigning him. You can't give up Jaylen Brown for a one year rental of anyone. Risk seems too great, IMO.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #113 on: June 15, 2018, 03:59:26 PM »

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Expect the the Sixers, Celtics, Lakers and Clippers to be the main four teams pursuing Kawhi Leonard, per sources. Teams with top picks could always jump into the sweepstakes, but the risk would be significant considering Leonard has just one more season left on his contract.

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We can dream, but one of his biggest beefs was his shoe contract being small from being in a small market. For selling shoes he is not going to think Boston or Philly has a chance of changing that.
Hasn't Kyrie's shoe line done awesome since coming to Boston?

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #114 on: June 15, 2018, 04:00:22 PM »

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It was reported months ago that Kawhi was upset that lesser players get bigger shoe deals than he does.  So, he wants exposure.

Under those circumstances, LA and NYK make sense, even if I'd argue that winning is the best exposure.
It has nothing to do with city with Leonard, it is him.  He is just a boring quiet player.  Sure, he probably gets a bigger deal in NY or LA, but he still won't get as big as he could because of his personality.  Westbrook has done just fine in Oklahoma City.  James did just fine in Cleveland.  etc.

It doesn't matter if it is actually true, it matters if Leonard thinks it is true. And it really seems like he does.

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« Reply #115 on: June 15, 2018, 04:00:25 PM »

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If Danny gives up anything significant for him, he has to be ultra confident in resigning him. You can't give up Jaylen Brown for a one year rental of anyone. Risk seems too great, IMO.

Don't think you can give up Brown, picks unless you know for sure Leonard resigns in Boston...too much risk

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« Reply #116 on: June 15, 2018, 04:02:01 PM »

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I think many people have independently looked at the Sixers roster and came up with the same no-brainer trade:   Covington + Fultz + #10 for Kawhi.   Gonna be tough to beat that.

Nah, that's just the Sixers fan in you.

At this point, Murray (who himself is only 21) looks like the far superior prospect to Fultz. #10 in this draft is not really that great of a pick. Just look at the names available. Covington is a nice 3 and D player, but his vanishing act in the playoffs/sheer inability to put the ball on the floor probably raised concerns across the league.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #117 on: June 15, 2018, 04:05:15 PM »

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Expect the the Sixers, Celtics, Lakers and Clippers to be the main four teams pursuing Kawhi Leonard, per sources. Teams with top picks could always jump into the sweepstakes, but the risk would be significant considering Leonard has just one more season left on his contract.

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We can dream, but one of his biggest beefs was his shoe contract being small from being in a small market. For selling shoes he is not going to think Boston or Philly has a chance of changing that.
Hasn't Kyrie's shoe line done awesome since coming to Boston?

It's always been doing well, although Kyrie 2 and 3 are the best frequently used models, and most comfortable I might say, this is when he was in Cleveland. Kyrie's and Paul George's shoes have been the top selling shoes, and most NBA players 'preferred,' sneakers to wear.

I think many people have independently looked at the Sixers roster and came up with the same no-brainer trade:   Covington + Fultz + #10 for Kawhi.   Gonna be tough to beat that.

What? That offer isn't even that good...
Fultz is still an elite prospect.  Youngest player ever to have a triple double.

Which is funny, because Jaylen Brown alone blows Covington/Fultz out the water, but sure keep prodding about useless stats like that actually matters when Fultz has played 14 games.

I consider Fultz a elite prospect too, but doesn't mean his value is anywhere near his at draft day.
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Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #118 on: June 15, 2018, 04:06:40 PM »

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The C's are missing that one mid tier salary to make the trade more balanced. Every young player  outside of Tatum would be gone. Think a third team would have to get involved. Then again Ainge may just say here we're going all in and fill out the depth with ring chasing vets.

Re: Here we go..Leonard wants out of SA...
« Reply #119 on: June 15, 2018, 04:06:57 PM »

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The whole saga is a reminder of why I, an NBA fan since the mid-80s, finds this league hard to enjoy.

You can do everything right as a franchise and still come up short. The Lakers have been one of the worst-run teams in the league for years, they've been awful at managing the cap, have a huge amount of dead money on their cap. So what? Three of the right guys decide they like the idea of living in Southern California, and voila! All that is forgotten. Doesn't matter.

I thought the league was kind of moving past this, but I guess not. Remember when Lamarcus Aldridge had a free agent meeting with the Lakers and they pitched him on marketing and endorsements and stuff, and hardly anything about basketball? He chose the Spurs instead, the best-run organization in the NBA. Basically the most glamorous places -- LA and NY -- have struck out in free agency in recent years, and most people interpreted it as "guys are prioritizing winning and well-run franchises". Well, maybe we got ahead of ourselves.

What we've got here is a cycle where the teams show no loyalty to the players, and the players show no loyalty to the teams. If you were Kyrie Irving and you'd just seen Isaiah Thomas summarily dumped by the team he carried to the ECF on the weight of a bum hip, wouldn't you be a little cautious?

The way out of this mess is to shift your priorities to draft picks and guys on rookie deals. The only way you can guarantee that an elite player will stay with your club in the long-run is to sign him as a rookie and max him out when he becomes a restricted free agency 5 years later. Something to think about before we trade away Jaylen or, God forbid, Tatum.
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