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Woj and Shams:


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1019497989008576513?s=21Edit - Sham latest report
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1019500317958950912?s=12





Brian Windhorst on The Lowe Post: “I think they’re in the driver’s seat for Kawhi because I think the Lakers have given up.” “The Sixers have given up and with the Nets, Bulls and Hawks spending their cap space, it makes it harder to assemble a multi-team trade. I think the Raptors are in the driver’s seat.”



Kawhi would be making a leap from the 25th largest market to the 6th largest market. If you're the Raptors, what would it take with and without long term commitment?

With commitment: Derozan, Siakam and a 1st
Without Commitment: Derozan straight up.
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multiple firsts, Anunoby, van Fleet, Ibaka/Valanciunas.

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multiple firsts, Anunoby, van Fleet, Ibaka/Valanciunas.
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I think Derozan has to be included for San Antonio to even consider it.

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I think Derozan has to be included for San Antonio to even consider it.
With how he choked in the playoffs I think Toronto would gladly do so.
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I think Derozan has to be included for San Antonio to even consider it.
With how he choked in the playoffs I think Toronto would gladly do so.

I look for Rozen to land in LA ,   if Kawhi some how does not get his Lebron dream job


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I think Derozan has to be included for San Antonio to even consider it.
With how he choked in the playoffs I think Toronto would gladly do so.

I agree he choked but the way that he was used or not used played a part in his performance. Plus Derozan is better than all these guys mentioned: Anunoby, van Fleet, Ibaka/Valanciunas.

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multiple firsts, Anunoby, van Fleet, Ibaka/Valanciunas.
Can't see SAS being interested in overpaid Ibaka or expiring Jonas V. Has to be DeRozan IMO
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I think Derozan has to be included for San Antonio to even consider it.
With how he choked in the playoffs I think Toronto would gladly do so.

I look for Rozen to land in LA ,   if Kawhi some how does not get his Lebron dream job
Nice. Another guy who can't shoot the 3 in LA! Lol.

I actually do like Derozan. He's a bucket getter.


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multiple firsts, Anunoby, van Fleet, Ibaka/Valanciunas.

FVV can’t be traded until January 15th.

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multiple firsts, Anunoby, van Fleet, Ibaka/Valanciunas.
Can't see SAS being interested in overpaid Ibaka or expiring Jonas V. Has to be DeRozan IMO

Could be the expiring JV if Toronto has enough low-cost assets San Antonio is interested in EDIT: JV has a player option next year that I would be surprised if he declined given the market for players with his skillset, but I tend to agree with you that DeRozan makes the most sense.  The Raptors would probably have to take a hefty contract back in a trade (Mills or Green) because San Antonio is pretty close to the luxury tax and isn’t likely to desire to go over it as part of moving Kawhi.  Derozan/Anunoby for Kawhi/Green is pretty salary neutral (Toronto has a bet of $400k payroll).
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Brian Windhorst on The Lowe Post: “I think they’re in the driver’s seat for Kawhi because I think the Lakers have given up.” “The Sixers have given up and with the Nets, Bulls and Hawks spending their cap space, it makes it harder to assemble a multi-team trade. I think the Raptors are in the driver’s seat.”

Kawhi would be making a leap from the 25th largest market to the 6th largest market. If you're the Raptors, what would it take with and without long term commitment?

With commitment: Derozan, Siakam and a 1st
Without Commitment: Derozan straight up.
With commitment would need to include more.  much more.
without commitment, I wouldn't move Derozen.  I'd consider anyone else but without that commitment I'm not leaving the team short it's current best player via trade and the better player who bolted in free agency. 

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multiple firsts, Anunoby, van Fleet, Ibaka/Valanciunas.

FVV can’t be traded until January 15th.
he isn't necessary anyway.  And it doesn't have to be Serge or Jonas.  Powell, Poeltl, Anunoby, Siakam, and Richardson makes the salaries work.  Add in a couple of protected 1st's if necessary.  That is a decent enough trade for the Spurs as they get 5 players all 25 or younger and a couple of future 1st's.  That would mean the Spurs would have to move some other players for roster purposes though which might be problematic, though Jonas or Serge could be included and not Powell or all the young guys or other players could be sent back.
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Toronto would be insane to trade their best player for a 1 year rental.  Makes absolutely no sense to me.

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multiple firsts, Anunoby, van Fleet, Ibaka/Valanciunas.

FVV can’t be traded until January 15th.