Reports / Speculation: Schroder linked Chicago, Milwaukee

[Celtics2021]

If a Schroder to CHI happens it will probably be centered around the Cs taking back Troy Brown Jr and the in a second trade sending Dozier or Bol into their TE for Thies to keep both teams below the tax. 

There may be second round pick in the mix also.

Getting Theis back would be great, and a very Stevens move.

Does Brown + Theis for Schroder + Bol save us money?

I assume Brown would be heading to Houston with Bol, but no, it would not save money.

[Celtics2021]

For Bulls:

Schroder and Bruno for Ayo and Troy Brown. Saves us $1.5 mil, we find a taker for Dozier and we’re under the tax.

They won’t do it but it’s nice to dream.

For Bucks:

Hill makes $1.5 less than Schroder. Donte, Pat C, and Grayson are all in the compatible range to Schroder but would require us to add draft capital so I don’t see them making much sense for us.

It’s not clear what the Bucks are going to do with Donte.  He had a very significant injury, is struggling in his return, and they probably can’t afford to keep him next season.  If they think Schröder can help them more this year, it’s probably a fair trade straight up.

Edit: I should mention that I don’t think Action Network’s tweets are worth any more than something I tweeted myself.

[Roy H.]

Edit: I should mention that I don’t think Action Network’s tweets are worth any more than something I tweeted myself.

Yeah, here on CS, we report these as essentially trade ideas with a good deal of skepticism.  Yet, Boston.com treats them as fact:

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2022/02/06/celtics-dennis-schroder-bulls-bucks-offer-nba-trade-deadline-rumors/

The Globe shouldn’t be a rumor aggregator.  I still remember when Shira Springer regurgitated Celtic Thug.  It’s lazy and disappointing.

[nebist]

Would you guys trade Schroder (1/5.9) for George Hill (2/8)?

I would. Although Schroder is more talented and can put up greater counting stats, I think Hill would be a better fit (along with the "all-important" cap implications) and 4M next year for a solid backup G seems like good value.

[Celtics2021]

Would you guys trade Schroder (1/5.9) for George Hill (2/8)?

I would. Although Schroder is probably more talented and can put up greater counting stats, I think Hill would be a better fit (along with the "all-important" cap implications) and 4M next year for a rock-solid backup G seems like good value.

I'd be a little concerned about taking on Hill's $4 million next year.  It's not a terrible value, but it isn't great.  But many of the C's better avenues towards long-term improvement involve making a free agent acquisition that subjects the team to the hard cap, and in that scenario, the C's would probably be better off with minimum-salary PG than one who makes $4 million, as the extra $2ish million could make the difference between making that bigger move or not.

Also, Hill doesn't make enough to trade for Schroder outright, so the C's would have to take back additional salary, limiting the savings they hope to obtain from trading Schroder.

[Ogaju]

For Bulls:

Schroder and Bruno for Ayo and Troy Brown. Saves us $1.5 mil, we find a taker for Dozier and we’re under the tax.

They won’t do it but it’s nice to dream.

For Bucks:

Hill makes $1.5 less than Schroder. Donte, Pat C, and Grayson are all in the compatible range to Schroder but would require us to add draft capital so I don’t see them making much sense for us.

Why would Bulls give up Dosunmu?

[Big333223]

Isn't the reason Schroder is likely to be traded based on the assumption that the C's won't be able to pay him his market value this summer? But in a trade his market value is only a 2nd rounder and a nothing player?

The idea that Schroder is going to get some massive payday seems built on the rumor that he was offered a huge deal from the Lakers that he turned down but since then there's been reporting that, actually, the deal wasn't as big as reported and since then no one has looked all that interested in him. Maybe he just stays in Boston and continues to be a guy who can score 14 ppg off the bench.

[Celtics2021]

For Bulls:

Schroder and Bruno for Ayo and Troy Brown. Saves us $1.5 mil, we find a taker for Dozier and we’re under the tax.

They won’t do it but it’s nice to dream.

For Bucks:

Hill makes $1.5 less than Schroder. Donte, Pat C, and Grayson are all in the compatible range to Schroder but would require us to add draft capital so I don’t see them making much sense for us.

Why would Bulls give up Dosunmu?

He has a 1:1 consonant:vowel ratio.  The Chicago Bulls have a 2:1 ratio, so he's not the best fit.  Dennis Schröder has a much better 2.5:1 ratio.  That umlaut really helps his name game.

[Wretch]

If a Schroder to CHI happens it will probably be centered around the Cs taking back Troy Brown Jr and the in a second trade sending Dozier or Bol into their TE for Thies to keep both teams below the tax. 

There may be second round pick in the mix also.

Getting Theis back would be great, and a very Stevens move.

Does Brown + Theis for Schroder + Bol save us money?

I assume Brown would be heading to Houston with Bol, but no, it would not save money.

  Sorry the TE is the one CHI got for trading Theis. I fixed my original post so it's more clear.

[Ed Monix]

A report from the Action Network’s Matt Moore suggests that the Milwaukee Bucks are interested in Dennis Schröder.

But the language in the report is unambiguous; Moore claims that “there are two offers on the table for Dennis Schröder according to multiple sources, one from the Milwaukee Bucks and another from the Chicago Bulls.”

[todd_days_41]

For Bulls:

Schroder and Bruno for Ayo and Troy Brown. Saves us $1.5 mil, we find a taker for Dozier and we’re under the tax.

They won’t do it but it’s nice to dream.

For Bucks:

Hill makes $1.5 less than Schroder. Donte, Pat C, and Grayson are all in the compatible range to Schroder but would require us to add draft capital so I don’t see them making much sense for us.

Why would Bulls give up Dosunmu?

Agreed -- this sort of trade suggestion is not based in any kind of reality.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Does it give anyone else pause that rival teams in the eastern conference want to nab one of our playoff rotation players from us for cheap? A player that is fairly productive even against tough competition, even if the advanced stats don't love him?

[Roy H.]

Does it give anyone else pause that rival teams in the eastern conference want to nab one of our playoff rotation players from us for cheap? A player that is fairly productive even against tough competition, even if the advanced stats don't love him?

I think at this point it’s silly to dump Schroder unless we get a decent #2 at minimum.

Otherwise, just pay OKC to take one of our end of bench guys.  Bruno or Bol + $2.5 million for a top-55 protected #2 should do it.

[blink]

Does it give anyone else pause that rival teams in the eastern conference want to nab one of our playoff rotation players from us for cheap? A player that is fairly productive even against tough competition, even if the advanced stats don't love him?

Out team is playing better as of late.  DS is a good insurance policy if Smart goes down.  DS is an expiring contract.  Why not let the season play out with him on the team? 

We didn’t trade assets to get him.  Why make conf rivals better?  We are only 5 games out of first, 4.5 if we win today.  The season isn’t completely lost yet.

So yes I agree with you.

[vjcsmoke]

I would hold out for a 1st round pick.  We don't need reclamation projects.  We just need cap relief and a future asset.  Even if it's a lottery protected pick that ends up in the 20s, that's just fine.  You can find rotation pieces in the 20's if your scouting is good.

Schroeder will help some team make a playoff push but they better pay a good price for those services!  Get it done Brad!