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Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2020, 09:20:11 AM »

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Givony is speculating on the Lowe post podcast that Hayes either goes #4 to Bulls, #7 to Pistons or falls into the 10-15 range.

Maybe... I dont know, not a huge fan of his game(at 14th pick).  Not explosive or quick.  There are pgs with comparable attributes later in the draft.

Hayes is the best PG in this draft (yes - better than Ball)
Agreed

Hayes and Haliburton as well, imo.

Hampton has more potential

IMO, Ball is overrated.

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Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2020, 10:51:16 AM »

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Givony is speculating on the Lowe post podcast that Hayes either goes #4 to Bulls, #7 to Pistons or falls into the 10-15 range.

Maybe... I dont know, not a huge fan of his game(at 14th pick).  Not explosive or quick.  There are pgs with comparable attributes later in the draft.

Hayes is the best PG in this draft (yes - better than Ball)
Agreed
Add me to the list with this opinion. I haven’t done my homework on Avidja or Edwards because they just don’t seem relevant to us at all and I’m not intrigued by them like I am Ball and Wiseman, but Hayes is my favorite player in the entire draft.
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Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2021, 06:16:03 PM »

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What are people's opinions about Tyrese Maxey? I really think a guard is what we should be going for in this draft, someone to provide some punch behind Kemba and this draft seems strong in that area - I think we'll be able to pick up a good guard at 14. I think Wanamaker has given us great minutes but we could probably upgrade here. We need a bruising, banging center but I think one of our later picks can meet that need. And we have enough long, athletic wings in Tatum, Brown, and Langford. I love him but I think because of his size Waters will never be able to be a fixture in the NBA.

Anyway, I watched Maxey's shooting drill at the combine and the stroke looked great - the announcers were saying his release point in college was low but he's been working on it, and he was knocking them down all over the court. Watching him run he's clearly an athlete, and at 6'3 he's got size for the position. Was only a freshman last year, and Kentucky does tend to depress stats and usage because of all the talent. Lots of great players in the NBA now were kind of hidden away at Kentucky.

So what about Maxey?

Bumping this because man I wish we had Maxey.

Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2021, 08:32:57 PM »

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If we keep this pick?  Doesn't the Stephien Rule prevent us from trading the pick?

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Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2021, 04:50:18 PM »

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What are people's opinions about Tyrese Maxey? I really think a guard is what we should be going for in this draft, someone to provide some punch behind Kemba and this draft seems strong in that area - I think we'll be able to pick up a good guard at 14. I think Wanamaker has given us great minutes but we could probably upgrade here. We need a bruising, banging center but I think one of our later picks can meet that need. And we have enough long, athletic wings in Tatum, Brown, and Langford. I love him but I think because of his size Waters will never be able to be a fixture in the NBA.

Anyway, I watched Maxey's shooting drill at the combine and the stroke looked great - the announcers were saying his release point in college was low but he's been working on it, and he was knocking them down all over the court. Watching him run he's clearly an athlete, and at 6'3 he's got size for the position. Was only a freshman last year, and Kentucky does tend to depress stats and usage because of all the talent. Lots of great players in the NBA now were kind of hidden away at Kentucky.

So what about Maxey?

Bumping this because man I wish we had Maxey.
This is what happens when a coach empowers a young player (Maxey) instead of stunting them (Pritchard).
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Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2021, 05:32:59 AM »

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I think Pritchard size and ability to get open stunt him more than the coach.

Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2021, 09:19:46 AM »

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If we keep this pick?  Doesn't the Stephien Rule prevent us from trading the pick?

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No.  We have all our 1st round picks.  If we trade 2022 1st, we'd still have 2023 1st. 

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Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2021, 09:20:59 AM »

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Ainge was poor at drafting talent..got a lot more wrong than right
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Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2021, 09:41:05 AM »

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I think Pritchard size and ability to get open stunt him more than the coach.

I think the broken nose to begin the season put Pritchard into a hole and needs to dig himself out of.

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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2021, 09:57:01 AM »

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I think Pritchard size and ability to get open stunt him more than the coach.

Yep. He probably is a good fit on the court as a fourth option floor spacer, but he can't be your backup point guard that you run your offense through.

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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2021, 10:07:47 AM »

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I think Pritchard size and ability to get open stunt him more than the coach.

Yep. He probably is a good fit on the court as a fourth option floor spacer, but he can't be your backup point guard that you run your offense through.
He's the same size as McConnell who has done fine as a backup PG even without being a 3pt shooter. 

Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2021, 10:12:21 AM »

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Ainge was poor at drafting talent..got a lot more wrong than right
Ainge did fine at drafting talent.  Not great.  Certainly not poor.  Just alright.  Pritchard, the 26th pick, is certainly not a reason to suggest Ainge was poor at drafting. 

Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2021, 11:10:24 AM »

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Ainge was poor at drafting talent..got a lot more wrong than right

The 2019 draft and lack of results of said draft is still hurting us.  Add that to passing on Achiwua and trading Desmond Bane and it is clear that he lost some of his magic touch.

Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2021, 12:12:06 PM »

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What are people's opinions about Tyrese Maxey? I really think a guard is what we should be going for in this draft, someone to provide some punch behind Kemba and this draft seems strong in that area - I think we'll be able to pick up a good guard at 14. I think Wanamaker has given us great minutes but we could probably upgrade here. We need a bruising, banging center but I think one of our later picks can meet that need. And we have enough long, athletic wings in Tatum, Brown, and Langford. I love him but I think because of his size Waters will never be able to be a fixture in the NBA.

Anyway, I watched Maxey's shooting drill at the combine and the stroke looked great - the announcers were saying his release point in college was low but he's been working on it, and he was knocking them down all over the court. Watching him run he's clearly an athlete, and at 6'3 he's got size for the position. Was only a freshman last year, and Kentucky does tend to depress stats and usage because of all the talent. Lots of great players in the NBA now were kind of hidden away at Kentucky.

So what about Maxey?

Bumping this because man I wish we had Maxey.
This is what happens when a coach empowers a young player (Maxey) instead of stunting them (Pritchard).
Or Maxey as a 1 and done young player is just better than the very old Pritchard.  I think it bears repeating Pritchard is older than Tatum.  There is a reason he had to stay in college for 4 years and was still barely a 1st round pick after doing so.  Very very rarely do the 4 year college players amount to anything.  It does happen, but continually expecting Boston to end up with the exception rather than the rule is just not a good place to be.
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Re: If we keep the 14th pick
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2021, 03:09:05 PM »

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What are people's opinions about Tyrese Maxey? I really think a guard is what we should be going for in this draft, someone to provide some punch behind Kemba and this draft seems strong in that area - I think we'll be able to pick up a good guard at 14. I think Wanamaker has given us great minutes but we could probably upgrade here. We need a bruising, banging center but I think one of our later picks can meet that need. And we have enough long, athletic wings in Tatum, Brown, and Langford. I love him but I think because of his size Waters will never be able to be a fixture in the NBA.

Anyway, I watched Maxey's shooting drill at the combine and the stroke looked great - the announcers were saying his release point in college was low but he's been working on it, and he was knocking them down all over the court. Watching him run he's clearly an athlete, and at 6'3 he's got size for the position. Was only a freshman last year, and Kentucky does tend to depress stats and usage because of all the talent. Lots of great players in the NBA now were kind of hidden away at Kentucky.

So what about Maxey?

Bumping this because man I wish we had Maxey.
This is what happens when a coach empowers a young player (Maxey) instead of stunting them (Pritchard).
Or Maxey as a 1 and done young player is just better than the very old Pritchard.  I think it bears repeating Pritchard is older than Tatum.  There is a reason he had to stay in college for 4 years and was still barely a 1st round pick after doing so.  Very very rarely do the 4 year college players amount to anything.  It does happen, but continually expecting Boston to end up with the exception rather than the rule is just not a good place to be.

You and I were both in on Maledon, right?  There's somebody having a disappointing year. 


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