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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Chris22 on March 15, 2018, 12:42:09 PM
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
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This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
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Thank steph curry for that
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
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One of the things I like about Monroe , he will not look to pass out after getting a rebound .
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
If I'm correct, I still believe those are pull up jumpers in transition.
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Smart is KING of the " heat check" .....I kinda get a laugh at all the grown s when he does this
still my fav Celtic by far.
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Smart is KING of the " heat check" .....I kinda get a laugh at all the grown s when he does this
still my fav Celtic by far.
Tp
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Modern "nerd number" basketball bro. Instead of running to the rim on a break, run to the 3 point line.
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Modern "nerd number" basketball bro. Instead of running to the rim on a break, run to the 3 point line.
Nope. That is a completely different issue.
Thanks for playing though
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Lol love doing that in 2K 8)
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
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Not shooting threes on the break?
When you are all alone?
Dražen Petrović is rolling over in his grave!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaYejaS26Hk
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Not shooting threes on the break?
When you are all alone?
Dražen Petrović is rolling over in his grave!
0:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaYejaS26Hk
Petrovic squared up before he shot that three. That is my point. You have to square up to shoot a three properly. Watch Ray Allen. Squared up every single time.
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Not shooting threes on the break?
When you are all alone?
Dražen Petrović is rolling over in his grave!
0:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaYejaS26Hk
Petrovic squared up before he shot that three. That is my point. You have to square up to shoot a three properly. Watch Ray Allen. Squared up every single time.
I get your point. Although, the information about Kyrie is slightly misleading, since Kyrie has generally been one of our best shooters and ball handler on our team. (Also hard to believe Kyrie could ever shoot anything at a 10% clip.)
To consistently hit the pull up 3 in transition or a dribble drive 3 point shot attempt, you need to have good body control, handles, and of course good shooting form.
I, too, get slightly annoyed at how much we rely on our 3 point shots in open space, but I think Stevens is trying to coerce the team into adopting a more simplistic and similar stylistic offensive approach that the Rockets seem to adopt. They shoot the 3 ball at 36.4 % clip at an ridiculous league leading 42.2 attempts per game! The problem is they share a common singular issue that the Celtics seem to have, and that's being in the lower percentile of averaged APG. (Rockets are 24th in APG, which is pretty underwhelming considering their record is the best in the league as of now.)
I think once you have two consistent ball handlers for first and second unit, the need to pull up 3's versus catch and shoot 3's seems to decrease slightly. (Which is why we brought in Hayward.)
Until someone can consistently step up as the ball handler, the need to take those unnecessary and tough 3's in transition won't go away any time soon. (Also hopefully Hayward's chance to shine as the 2nd main ball handler.)
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Not shooting threes on the break?
When you are all alone?
Dražen Petrović is rolling over in his grave!
0:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaYejaS26Hk
Petrovic squared up before he shot that three. That is my point. You have to square up to shoot a three properly. Watch Ray Allen. Squared up every single time.
I get your point. Although, the information about Kyrie is slightly misleading, since Kyrie has generally been one of our best shooters and ball handler on our team. (Also hard to believe Kyrie could ever shoot anything at a 10% clip.)
To consistently hit the pull up 3 in transition or a dribble drive 3 point shot attempt, you need to have good body control, handles, and of course good shooting form.
I, too, get slightly annoyed at how much we rely on our 3 point shots in open space, but I think Stevens is trying to coerce the team into adopting a more simplistic and similar stylistic offensive approach that the Rockets seem to adopt. They shoot the 3 ball at 36.4 % clip at an ridiculous league leading 42.2 attempts per game! The problem is they share a common singular issue that the Celtics seem to have, and that's being in the lower percentile of averaged APG. (Rockets are 24th in APG, which is pretty underwhelming considering their record is the best in the league as of now.)
I think once you have two consistent ball handlers for first and second unit, the need to pull up 3's versus catch and shoot 3's seems to decrease slightly. (Which is why we brought in Hayward.)
Until someone can consistently step up as the ball handler, the need to take those unnecessary and tough 3's in transition won't go away any time soon. (Also hopefully Hayward's chance to shine as the 2nd main ball handler.)
I don't mind threes as long as they are not taken on the run on a fast break.
That is just throwing up a prayer.
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
I watched every game too. Your estimate is wrong. Check actual stats.
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Boston is 4th in the NBA in team 3-pt shooting percentage.
I'm sure they can improve their shot selection at the margins - I have the same eye-test feeling that they take more quick threes than I'd like - but obviously they are not taking a ton of low percentage three point shots.
https://stats.nba.com/teams/traditional/?sort=FG3_PCT&dir=-1
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We are 29th in finishing around the rim.
Noone except Kyrie can do it.
We also hit 3s at a great rate and efficiency.
Along those lines I don't believe that shooting less 3s helps us.
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We are 29th in finishing around the rim.
Noone except Kyrie can do it.
We also hit 3s at a great rate and efficiency.
Along those lines I don't believe that shooting less 3s helps us.
Bingo.
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We are 29th in finishing around the rim.
Noone except Kyrie can do it.
We also hit 3s at a great rate and efficiency.
Along those lines I don't believe that shooting less 3s helps us.
This is pretty much my thoughts as well.
Like I said earlier, we should follow the same model as the Rockets for our offense. We should definitely move the ball more, since the Rockets take a high number of catch and shoot 3's, and we currently don't have that many sharpshooters like Rockets do. But we should rely more on adept passing, and crisp ball movement to get easier 3's, and easier shots in the paint.
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
That's an awful estimate.
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
That's an awful estimate.
Not really. Judge for yourself. Start counting and get back to us.
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I love the transition 3, such a momentum builder. And we're making like 60% of them. Even Baynes is awesome on the break.
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I love the transition 3, such a momentum builder. And we're making like 60% of them. Even Baynes is awesome on the break.
Transition threes are not the same as pull up threes.
LOL
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
That's an awful estimate.
I trust a guy throwing out a random number as much as metrics that are tossed around without an introduction and weak face validity.
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
That's an awful estimate.
I trust a guy throwing out a random number as much as metrics that are tossed around without an introduction and weak face validity.
Not a random number.
An estimate from watching every game this year.
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
That's an awful estimate.
I trust a guy throwing out a random number as much as metrics that are tossed around without an introduction and weak face validity.
Not a random number.
An estimate from watching every game this year.
Not my words, but I supported your point.
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
That's an awful estimate.
I trust a guy throwing out a random number as much as metrics that are tossed around without an introduction and weak face validity.
Not a random number.
An estimate from watching every game this year.
I'd estimate he's at close to 40%. I've seen all but 3 or 4 games.
He shoots 41% on pull-up 3s
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
That's an awful estimate.
I trust a guy throwing out a random number as much as metrics that are tossed around without an introduction and weak face validity.
Ok tarheels, do you think he shoots pull up 3s on the break at a 10% rate
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
That's an awful estimate.
I trust a guy throwing out a random number as much as metrics that are tossed around without an introduction and weak face validity.
Not a random number.
An estimate from watching every game this year.
I'd estimate he's at close to 40%. I've seen all but 3 or 4 games.
He shoots 41% on pull-up 3s
Who's he? I was talking about the entire team.
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
That's an awful estimate.
I trust a guy throwing out a random number as much as metrics that are tossed around without an introduction and weak face validity.
Ok tarheels, do you think he shoots pull up 3s on the break at a 10% rate
Of course (intended sarcasm). But I don't know that I've even heard of how JUVENTUS is measured. To the user's credit, he suggested that he's not sure either.
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
That's an awful estimate.
I trust a guy throwing out a random number as much as metrics that are tossed around without an introduction and weak face validity.
Not a random number.
An estimate from watching every game this year.
I'd estimate he's at close to 40%. I've seen all but 3 or 4 games.
He shoots 41% on pull-up 3s
Who's he? I was talking about the entire team.
I can't believe I have to link you to the first post in this thread
I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
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I feel like this is just another one of those threads here where people just spend too much time arguing a completely ridiculous point, based off nothing more than "fake news" (in this case made up numbers), and in doing so just end up feeding the troll.
I mean, the whole premise is just nuts, and is easily refuted by a simple check of the actual stats. By hey, in this age we live in, why bother with actual facts, just make up your own!
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I feel like this is just another one of those threads here where people just spend too much time arguing a completely ridiculous point, based off nothing more than "fake news" (in this case made up numbers), and in doing so just end up feeding the troll.
I mean, the whole premise is just nuts, and is easily refuted by a simple check of the actual stats. By hey, in this age we live in, why bother with actual facts, just make up your own!
TP
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I feel like this is just another one of those threads here where people just spend too much time arguing a completely ridiculous point, based off nothing more than "fake news" (in this case made up numbers), and in doing so just end up feeding the troll.
I mean, the whole premise is just nuts, and is easily refuted by a simple check of the actual stats. By hey, in this age we live in, why bother with actual facts, just make up your own!
Agreed and TP.
The OP should get negative TPs for this thread. It's one thing to have an opinion. It's another to be outright, factually incorrect and then still stupidly insist that somehow they're right.
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I feel like this is just another one of those threads here where people just spend too much time arguing a completely ridiculous point, based off nothing more than "fake news" (in this case made up numbers), and in doing so just end up feeding the troll.
I mean, the whole premise is just nuts, and is easily refuted by a simple check of the actual stats. By hey, in this age we live in, why bother with actual facts, just make up your own!
Agreed and TP.
The OP should get negative TPs for this thread. It's one thing to have an opinion. It's another to be outright, factually incorrect and then still stupidly insist that somehow they're right.
I think you just described yourself.
Smart and Rozier firing up threes on fast breaks without squaring up isn't the way to win.
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I would say that's an issue of execution, how to take a three and who should take one, not so much a question of whether taking a three on the break is a good idea. Good three point shooters who are open should take three point shots on the break, the stats back that up. Bad three point shooters should not. Right now Terry is shooting well enough that he can take that shot.
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I love when Kyrie shoots. I estimate that he averages about 40 points per game. It's just an estimate but until the league starts keeping official stats, there is no way of knowing whether or not I'm right.
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I feel like this is just another one of those threads here where people just spend too much time arguing a completely ridiculous point, based off nothing more than "fake news" (in this case made up numbers), and in doing so just end up feeding the troll.
I mean, the whole premise is just nuts, and is easily refuted by a simple check of the actual stats. By hey, in this age we live in, why bother with actual facts, just make up your own!
Agreed and TP.
The OP should get negative TPs for this thread. It's one thing to have an opinion. It's another to be outright, factually incorrect and then still stupidly insist that somehow they're right.
I think you just described yourself.
Smart and Rozier firing up threes on fast breaks without squaring up isn't the way to win.
At least theirs has a chance of going in. Your entire argument is an air ball.
10%, indeed.
Every single pull up 3 hits nothing but the bottom of the net. The ones off the rim were just poorly aimed passes. ;D ;D ;D
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I am so sick of watching the Celtics shoot pull up threes on the break.
Even Kyrie only hits them 10% of the time. Brad needs to tell them to stop.
Where did you get this information from?
Kyrie Irving is shooting a blistering 40.8% on PUJITS, especially on 3's.... On 2 point attempts, he's averaging 46.8....
This is the one aspect of modern basketball that I hate watching. Drive for a layup or a kickout on the break, but please don't pull up for a zero pass three.
I agree and disagree. I like pull up jumpers, what I don't like is when players fall in love with PUJITS. Westbrook is one of the worst at it, with 26.2% on 3 attempts.
Thank steph curry for that
Something like the pull up jumper was going to be a frequent staple in today's NBA regardless of whether or not Curry existed... Lillard, Durant, George, and a few others use those shots constantly.
Kyrie is not shooting 40% on pull up threes on fast breaks. Go back and watch the games.
And just so we are clear, I am talking about driving down the floor with the ball and firing up a three on the run.
Where did you get the numbers? We need more proof other than "go back and watch the games"
Then take note of it from now on.
so what you are saying is you pulled the number out of your ass?
Just an estimate from watching every game.
Nice comment, though.
I watched every game too. Your estimate is wrong. Check actual stats.
Boston has shot 36.2% on pull-up 3’s this year. Btw, that’s 4th in the league. I don’t know how to sort both early shot clock and pull-ups; but early-offense pull-ups are more likely to be unchallenged.
Kyrie shot better on pull-up 3’s than catch-and-shoot, which is not common: .408 vs. .399
Jaylen has shot .435 on pull-up 3’s, though on only 23 attempts. He’s .357 for c&s.
I won’t go through everyone; suffice it to say that Tatum is much worse off the bounce.
If it’s a question of c&s vs pull-ups, the OP has a point; Boston has shot .378 on c&s 3’s. But that is not true for Kyrie or Brown. Some guys should, some shouldn’t.
I would say that's an issue of execution, how to take a three and who should take one, not so much a question of whether taking a three on the break is a good idea. Good three point shooters who are open should take three point shots on the break, the stats back that up. Bad three point shooters should not. Right now Terry is shooting well enough that he can take that shot.
I agree in general, but I’d have misgivings about Terry taking too many of them. .419 on c&s vs .341 on pull-ups.
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shooting pull up 3's on the break is fine. when you're giving up sure 2's in favor of pull up 3's then I have a problem with it.
this team does that a lot.
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shooting pull up 3's on the break is fine. when you're giving up sure 2's in favor of pull up 3's then I have a problem with it.
this team does that a lot.
It's a bad shot.