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Who you got at #14? (players are listed in random order)

Tyrell Terry
13 (24.5%)
Patrick Williams
6 (11.3%)
Precious Achiuwa
4 (7.5%)
R.J. Hampton
4 (7.5%)
Aleksej Pokusevski
3 (5.7%)
Saddiq Bey
5 (9.4%)
Jalen Smith
4 (7.5%)
Aaron Nesmith
8 (15.1%)
Kira Lewis Jr.
3 (5.7%)
Cole Anthony
2 (3.8%)
other (please name below and I'll include him in the poll)
1 (1.9%)

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Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #225 on: September 13, 2020, 12:29:07 PM »

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Flip flopping back and forth on Celts potential picks

Liking Nesmith and Saddiq Bey at 14

I'm resigned to BPA, as we (and every other team) can always go for another good shooting wing, a multi-positional center and a PG.  One of each of those types will be available at 14.

BPA is by definition?

Bc a bpa per skills may have a poor attitude/uncoachable/big headed

I have read there is a little baggage attached to Hampton. Complains calls with refs. Overconfidence. Maybe just a maturity issue

Heard nothing bad about Nesmith and Saddiq Bey.

Bey is an intriguing package. Reminds me a bit of Crowder game but at 6'8.  Versatile and solid shooter, ball handler.  Nesmith is 6'6  with a 6'10 wingspan. One of the best pure shooters. Comparable to a Mikael Bridges of the Suns

In order to obtain one of these players wouldnt be surprised if Danny packaged one of the other 1st picks, to move up a few spots. Spurs for example need more depth in their lineup.

I like the Bey Crowder comparison, TP, good one, TriBoy. 

Hadn't heard that about Hampton having an attitude issue. I think athletically he would fit very well into our team, but don't see him developing for a couple of years.   I know we are about winning now, but frankly we could probably afford to draft for the future given roster construct, assuming Hayward opts in and Kemba doesn't break down over next couple of seasons.

Max Carlin thinks Maxey is the perfect fit for Celtics at 14, and would not trade up to take  Hayes (who he loves) if he figures Maxey available at 14.  He likes Maxey because he excels in midrange game, feels that is a weakness of Celtics. I am not as much a fan of Maxey. I watch the tape, and he seems to be just a tad short of something.  He is like a smaller, less athletic Donovan Mitchell, if that makes sense.  If he had more burst I'd be more confident taking him at 14.

I think Danny tends to value athleticism when in doubt (Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier e.g.), so would not be surprised if he took Hampton at 14. He is very athletic.   Or Kira Lewis, also very fast twitch guy.  Could see it coming down to those two, assuming they are both available at 14.


Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #226 on: September 13, 2020, 12:43:38 PM »

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Kira lewis mcdaniels and achiuwa... 2 of those I am ok

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #227 on: September 13, 2020, 07:33:47 PM »

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I like to draft up for Hayes or Vassell if possible. Other than them I really like Achiuwa (very intrigued by his defensive potential, Siakam-light?), but I worry that he's not the type of player that would flourish under Stevens.

A player that I think could be a great fit for the Celtics is Tyler Bey (strong rebounder, Anunoby/Covington type). Too high at 14 I suppose and better to be picked at 26?

Someone here is very high on Paul Reed, but can he play next a center (like Theis/Timelord)? I'm pretty sure from the videos on Youtube that Jalen Smith can't, so despite his 3-point-shot, I don't want him as our newly drafted PF.

Mocks are still all over the place. Lots of guards available at 14, but I don't have someone standing out right now.

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #228 on: September 13, 2020, 09:08:05 PM »

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Flip flopping back and forth on Celts potential picks

Liking Nesmith and Saddiq Bey at 14

I'm resigned to BPA, as we (and every other team) can always go for another good shooting wing, a multi-positional center and a PG.  One of each of those types will be available at 14.

BPA is by definition?

Bc a bpa per skills may have a poor attitude/uncoachable/big headed

I have read there is a little baggage attached to Hampton. Complains calls with refs. Overconfidence. Maybe just a maturity issue

Heard nothing bad about Nesmith and Saddiq Bey.

Bey is an intriguing package. Reminds me a bit of Crowder game but at 6'8.  Versatile and solid shooter, ball handler.  Nesmith is 6'6  with a 6'10 wingspan. One of the best pure shooters. Comparable to a Mikael Bridges of the Suns

In order to obtain one of these players wouldnt be surprised if Danny packaged one of the other 1st picks, to move up a few spots. Spurs for example need more depth in their lineup.

I like the Bey Crowder comparison, TP, good one, TriBoy. 

Hadn't heard that about Hampton having an attitude issue. I think athletically he would fit very well into our team, but don't see him developing for a couple of years.   I know we are about winning now, but frankly we could probably afford to draft for the future given roster construct, assuming Hayward opts in and Kemba doesn't break down over next couple of seasons.

Max Carlin thinks Maxey is the perfect fit for Celtics at 14, and would not trade up to take  Hayes (who he loves) if he figures Maxey available at 14.  He likes Maxey because he excels in midrange game, feels that is a weakness of Celtics. I am not as much a fan of Maxey. I watch the tape, and he seems to be just a tad short of something.  He is like a smaller, less athletic Donovan Mitchell, if that makes sense.  If he had more burst I'd be more confident taking him at 14.

I think Danny tends to value athleticism when in doubt (Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier e.g.), so would not be surprised if he took Hampton at 14. He is very athletic.   Or Kira Lewis, also very fast twitch guy.  Could see it coming down to those two, assuming they are both available at 14.

I used to think that about Ainge and physical ability/athleticism, but then last year’s draft happened and 🤷‍♂️. It’s not just that he passed on Thybulle to take Grant - no question which of those 2 is the physical specimen for his position - and then took a flyer on Carsen and Waters - clearly not chosen for their physical profiles. Langford is a little more ambiguous, but there was a lot of reporting Ainge wanted Herro at 14. I don’t know what his mold is nowadays.

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #229 on: September 13, 2020, 10:33:57 PM »

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I like to draft up for Hayes or Vassell if possible. Other than them I really like Achiuwa (very intrigued by his defensive potential, Siakam-light?), but I worry that he's not the type of player that would flourish under Stevens.

A player that I think could be a great fit for the Celtics is Tyler Bey (strong rebounder, Anunoby/Covington type). Too high at 14 I suppose and better to be picked at 26?

Someone here is very high on Paul Reed, but can he play next a center (like Theis/Timelord)? I'm pretty sure from the videos on Youtube that Jalen Smith can't, so despite his 3-point-shot, I don't want him as our newly drafted PF.

Mocks are still all over the place. Lots of guards available at 14, but I don't have someone standing out right now.
On defence I think Reed would thrive next to Theis or Williams with his activity and length, and could play centre for minutes (think a bigger Rob Covington). On offence it might be tricky though, given his passing is still improving, as is his shooting.

I don't know how of an issue that would be if we have Kemba, JT, JB and Hayward all healthy though. He'd be my guy at #26.

One thing is for sure - there is more uncertainty with this draft than any I can remember
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Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #230 on: September 13, 2020, 11:27:34 PM »

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I like to draft up for Hayes or Vassell if possible. Other than them I really like Achiuwa (very intrigued by his defensive potential, Siakam-light?), but I worry that he's not the type of player that would flourish under Stevens.

A player that I think could be a great fit for the Celtics is Tyler Bey (strong rebounder, Anunoby/Covington type). Too high at 14 I suppose and better to be picked at 26?

Someone here is very high on Paul Reed, but can he play next a center (like Theis/Timelord)? I'm pretty sure from the videos on Youtube that Jalen Smith can't, so despite his 3-point-shot, I don't want him as our newly drafted PF.

Mocks are still all over the place. Lots of guards available at 14, but I don't have someone standing out right now.
On defence I think Reed would thrive next to Theis or Williams with his activity and length, and could play centre for minutes (think a bigger Rob Covington). On offence it might be tricky though, given his passing is still improving, as is his shooting.

I don't know how of an issue that would be if we have Kemba, JT, JB and Hayward all healthy though. He'd be my guy at #26.

One thing is for sure - there is more uncertainty with this draft than any I can remember

I'd also prefer Reed to Jalen Smith....take a chance on a specialist defender that he puts other parts of the game together nicely.  Tyler Bey I don't know much about...but I thought he was smaller than the Covington/Anunoby mold....closer to Iggy size I thought...

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #231 on: September 13, 2020, 11:29:36 PM »

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I like to draft up for Hayes or Vassell if possible. Other than them I really like Achiuwa (very intrigued by his defensive potential, Siakam-light?), but I worry that he's not the type of player that would flourish under Stevens.

A player that I think could be a great fit for the Celtics is Tyler Bey (strong rebounder, Anunoby/Covington type). Too high at 14 I suppose and better to be picked at 26?

Someone here is very high on Paul Reed, but can he play next a center (like Theis/Timelord)? I'm pretty sure from the videos on Youtube that Jalen Smith can't, so despite his 3-point-shot, I don't want him as our newly drafted PF.

Mocks are still all over the place. Lots of guards available at 14, but I don't have someone standing out right now.
On defence I think Reed would thrive next to Theis or Williams with his activity and length, and could play centre for minutes (think a bigger Rob Covington). On offence it might be tricky though, given his passing is still improving, as is his shooting.

I don't know how of an issue that would be if we have Kemba, JT, JB and Hayward all healthy though. He'd be my guy at #26.

One thing is for sure - there is more uncertainty with this draft than any I can remember

How is Reed passing and IQ?

Only reason I would think twice about drafting Achiuwa is "siakam" factor. Silly mistakes and turnovers.  A little out of control

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #232 on: September 13, 2020, 11:41:24 PM »

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I like to draft up for Hayes or Vassell if possible. Other than them I really like Achiuwa (very intrigued by his defensive potential, Siakam-light?), but I worry that he's not the type of player that would flourish under Stevens.

A player that I think could be a great fit for the Celtics is Tyler Bey (strong rebounder, Anunoby/Covington type). Too high at 14 I suppose and better to be picked at 26?

Someone here is very high on Paul Reed, but can he play next a center (like Theis/Timelord)? I'm pretty sure from the videos on Youtube that Jalen Smith can't, so despite his 3-point-shot, I don't want him as our newly drafted PF.

Mocks are still all over the place. Lots of guards available at 14, but I don't have someone standing out right now.
On defence I think Reed would thrive next to Theis or Williams with his activity and length, and could play centre for minutes (think a bigger Rob Covington). On offence it might be tricky though, given his passing is still improving, as is his shooting.

I don't know how of an issue that would be if we have Kemba, JT, JB and Hayward all healthy though. He'd be my guy at #26.

One thing is for sure - there is more uncertainty with this draft than any I can remember

How is Reed passing and IQ?

Only reason I would think twice about drafting Achiuwa is "siakam" factor. Silly mistakes and turnovers.  A little out of control

I'm high on Reed, especially in those lower picks, he maybe had at 30.Reed isn't a good passer yet and he needs more discipline on the defensive and offensive ends. He has very good athletic gifts but he has a lot to work on. 
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Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #233 on: September 14, 2020, 01:08:34 AM »

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I like to draft up for Hayes or Vassell if possible. Other than them I really like Achiuwa (very intrigued by his defensive potential, Siakam-light?), but I worry that he's not the type of player that would flourish under Stevens.

A player that I think could be a great fit for the Celtics is Tyler Bey (strong rebounder, Anunoby/Covington type). Too high at 14 I suppose and better to be picked at 26?

Someone here is very high on Paul Reed, but can he play next a center (like Theis/Timelord)? I'm pretty sure from the videos on Youtube that Jalen Smith can't, so despite his 3-point-shot, I don't want him as our newly drafted PF.

Mocks are still all over the place. Lots of guards available at 14, but I don't have someone standing out right now.
On defence I think Reed would thrive next to Theis or Williams with his activity and length, and could play centre for minutes (think a bigger Rob Covington). On offence it might be tricky though, given his passing is still improving, as is his shooting.

I don't know how of an issue that would be if we have Kemba, JT, JB and Hayward all healthy though. He'd be my guy at #26.

One thing is for sure - there is more uncertainty with this draft than any I can remember

How is Reed passing and IQ?

Only reason I would think twice about drafting Achiuwa is "siakam" factor. Silly mistakes and turnovers.  A little out of control
Reed isn't a fantastic passer, but I think that was as much a feature of Leitao's offence as it was Reed's game. There was only one player on DePaul who averaged multiple assists per game (Charlie Moore with 6.1). Nobody else averaged higher than 1.7APG.

Achiuwa might be a little wild, but he's also got the ability to be a genuine small-ball 5 while defending 3-5. That kind of athletic profile is hard to match
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #234 on: September 14, 2020, 08:13:37 AM »

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I like to draft up for Hayes or Vassell if possible. Other than them I really like Achiuwa (very intrigued by his defensive potential, Siakam-light?), but I worry that he's not the type of player that would flourish under Stevens.

A player that I think could be a great fit for the Celtics is Tyler Bey (strong rebounder, Anunoby/Covington type). Too high at 14 I suppose and better to be picked at 26?

Someone here is very high on Paul Reed, but can he play next a center (like Theis/Timelord)? I'm pretty sure from the videos on Youtube that Jalen Smith can't, so despite his 3-point-shot, I don't want him as our newly drafted PF.

Mocks are still all over the place. Lots of guards available at 14, but I don't have someone standing out right now.
On defence I think Reed would thrive next to Theis or Williams with his activity and length, and could play centre for minutes (think a bigger Rob Covington). On offence it might be tricky though, given his passing is still improving, as is his shooting.

I don't know how of an issue that would be if we have Kemba, JT, JB and Hayward all healthy though. He'd be my guy at #26.

One thing is for sure - there is more uncertainty with this draft than any I can remember

How is Reed passing and IQ?

Only reason I would think twice about drafting Achiuwa is "siakam" factor. Silly mistakes and turnovers.  A little out of control

I'm with you on Achiuwa's "siakam" factor. I see a player who will have an impact on the game by sheer force of energy. I think he also has a lot of skills, but they are rough and undefined. If you could get a Siakim-type player at 14, and then keep him in a natural high-energy, high-efficiency role-player role, then that's a good pick.

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #235 on: September 14, 2020, 09:09:28 AM »

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Flip flopping back and forth on Celts potential picks

Liking Nesmith and Saddiq Bey at 14

I'm resigned to BPA, as we (and every other team) can always go for another good shooting wing, a multi-positional center and a PG.  One of each of those types will be available at 14.

BPA is by definition?

Bc a bpa per skills may have a poor attitude/uncoachable/big headed

I have read there is a little baggage attached to Hampton. Complains calls with refs. Overconfidence. Maybe just a maturity issue

Heard nothing bad about Nesmith and Saddiq Bey.

Bey is an intriguing package. Reminds me a bit of Crowder game but at 6'8.  Versatile and solid shooter, ball handler.  Nesmith is 6'6  with a 6'10 wingspan. One of the best pure shooters. Comparable to a Mikael Bridges of the Suns

In order to obtain one of these players wouldnt be surprised if Danny packaged one of the other 1st picks, to move up a few spots. Spurs for example need more depth in their lineup.

I like the Bey Crowder comparison, TP, good one, TriBoy. 

Hadn't heard that about Hampton having an attitude issue. I think athletically he would fit very well into our team, but don't see him developing for a couple of years.   I know we are about winning now, but frankly we could probably afford to draft for the future given roster construct, assuming Hayward opts in and Kemba doesn't break down over next couple of seasons.

Max Carlin thinks Maxey is the perfect fit for Celtics at 14, and would not trade up to take  Hayes (who he loves) if he figures Maxey available at 14.  He likes Maxey because he excels in midrange game, feels that is a weakness of Celtics. I am not as much a fan of Maxey. I watch the tape, and he seems to be just a tad short of something.  He is like a smaller, less athletic Donovan Mitchell, if that makes sense.  If he had more burst I'd be more confident taking him at 14.

I think Danny tends to value athleticism when in doubt (Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier e.g.), so would not be surprised if he took Hampton at 14. He is very athletic.   Or Kira Lewis, also very fast twitch guy.  Could see it coming down to those two, assuming they are both available at 14.

I used to think that about Ainge and physical ability/athleticism, but then last year’s draft happened and 🤷‍♂️. It’s not just that he passed on Thybulle to take Grant - no question which of those 2 is the physical specimen for his position - and then took a flyer on Carsen and Waters - clearly not chosen for their physical profiles. Langford is a little more ambiguous, but there was a lot of reporting Ainge wanted Herro at 14. I don’t know what his mold is nowadays.

TP, good response.  I'm making it more black and white, for sure.  I guess I am sprinkling in a bit of hope that this is how he will approach the draft. As tempting as it may be to find someone who can step in next year and contribute right away, I feel our current roster does not really require that, and that I would rather them focus on finding the guy with the most realistic upside.

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #236 on: September 14, 2020, 09:26:53 AM »

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I think a high profile HS recruit that slid due to injury/circumstances/team fit is likely who DA will target at 14. Bradley, Sullinger, and Langford fit this profile.  I would look for Hampton to be the pick if available.

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #237 on: September 14, 2020, 09:38:55 AM »

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If you buy into the idea that this is a team built around Tatum, Brown and Smart, and you consider fitting everything around that, its hard to see a role for anyone other than a big point guard or a versatile big that fits around them. I'll be very disappointed if we don't trade up to get Haliburton or Okongwu.

If we get this one draft right, and sign Hayward to a reasonable deal(3 yrs 75M extension), we are likely a top 3 team for the next 6-8 years or more.

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #238 on: September 14, 2020, 11:24:11 AM »

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Any chance of the Celtics getting Patrick Williams? Would love to somehow end up with him.

Re: Who You Got with the 14th Pick?
« Reply #239 on: September 14, 2020, 11:50:15 AM »

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Any chance of the Celtics getting Patrick Williams? Would love to somehow end up with him.

He wins my "fits the Celtics like a glove" award.  Large bunches of mintues at PF for the C's for years on end...bench or starter...eventual starter.