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Title: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: CelticsElite on November 11, 2017, 10:58:32 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21382038/lonzo-ball-los-angeles-lakers-youngest-nba-history-get-triple-double
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrojs record)
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on November 11, 2017, 11:04:31 PM
3 of his rebounds in the 3rd quarter were obvious triple-double chasers. Teammates intentionally backed off and let him have open rebounds.

I mean, he was more impressive than I've seen him so far this season, but I can't stand that kind of obvious team stat-padding.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrojs record)
Post by: mr. dee on November 11, 2017, 11:06:52 PM
I'm tired of media glamoring over meaningless stats, especially if they didn't get a win. Good for the kid, but glorifying stat-padding is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrojs record)
Post by: CelticsElite on November 11, 2017, 11:22:01 PM
3 of his rebounds in the 3rd quarter were obvious triple-double chasers. Teammates intentionally backed off and let him have open rebounds.

I mean, he was more impressive than I've seen him so far this season, but I can't stand that kind of obvious team stat-padding.
I agree with you. I like hustle guards like rondo that earn their triple  doubles and actual compete for those rebounds
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrojs record)
Post by: Fafnir on November 11, 2017, 11:32:16 PM
3 of his rebounds in the 3rd quarter were obvious triple-double chasers. Teammates intentionally backed off and let him have open rebounds.

I mean, he was more impressive than I've seen him so far this season, but I can't stand that kind of obvious team stat-padding.
I mean the idea of letting your PG who leads the break get an uncontested rebound is pretty normal, sooo meh...

Lonzo's primary asset to his team so far has been his superb rebounding from the PG position.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrojs record)
Post by: Fafnir on November 11, 2017, 11:33:07 PM
I'm tired of media glamoring over meaningless stats, especially if they didn't get a win. Good for the kid, but glorifying stat-padding is getting ridiculous.
Meh its what you do for lottery teams, the C fans on this board did it for our two bad years when trying to look for good things amid all the losing.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: mainevent on November 11, 2017, 11:38:41 PM
It's SAD that this is the lead story on both nba.com and ESPN.  I am so sick of the Lonzo Ball overhype train.  It's sickening. What makes it so bad is that they LOST but of course, who cares as long as Lonzo has good numbers. I can almost guarantee he's going to be in the ROY race regardless of any putrid numbers he produces. What bothers me most is that he's not EARNING any of this press & praise because his production is garbage!
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: chilidawg on November 11, 2017, 11:38:57 PM
4 blocks, 3 steals as well.  Except for the Laker thing I'm a fan.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrojs record)
Post by: mr. dee on November 11, 2017, 11:56:08 PM
I'm tired of media glamoring over meaningless stats, especially if they didn't get a win. Good for the kid, but glorifying stat-padding is getting ridiculous.
Meh its what you do for lottery teams, the C fans on this board did it for our two bad years when trying to look for good things amid all the losing.

It's one thing for fans to hype up their team, it's another when (national) media glamor over empty stats. Same thing for Booker's 70 points last year.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: knuckleballer on November 11, 2017, 11:58:51 PM
4 blocks, 3 steals as well.  Except for the Laker thing I'm a fan.

He's fun to watch.  I'm disappointed that he's a Laker and I have to root against him.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: CelticSooner on November 12, 2017, 03:11:14 AM
They won't be bust. Outside of that the jury is still out on what he becomes.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: RockinRyA on November 12, 2017, 03:58:35 AM
It's SAD that this is the lead story on both nba.com and ESPN.  I am so sick of the Lonzo Ball overhype train.  It's sickening. What makes it so bad is that they LOST but of course, who cares as long as Lonzo has good numbers. I can almost guarantee he's going to be in the ROY race regardless of any putrid numbers he produces. What bothers me most is that he's not EARNING any of this press & praise because his production is garbage!

It was on yahoo sports as well. Then I looked up the scoreboard and it seems they lost by 8.

Too early to say what he will become, but tbh I just dont see it. He gets stats but his impact is very lacking. I dont see the same thing you see with Simmons who I grudgingly agree looks good.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: Moranis on November 12, 2017, 11:20:49 AM
To his credit he basically said it didn't matter because they loat
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on November 12, 2017, 11:28:32 AM
Congrats to him.

He seems like an humble kid and he'll only get better.

He's made The Lakers competitive AND better - that is a lot for a rookie.

I'm glad that WE were able to bottle him up somewhat but he's going to be a load going forward.

The comparisons to Jason Kidd - while STILL early in Ball's career - are not far off. A 6'6" version of Kidd.

With that much height he has the potential to REALLY disrupt defensively as he gets better.

Congrats on Moderator, too - Moranis.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: RockinRyA on November 12, 2017, 11:58:15 AM
Congrats to him.

He seems like an humble kid and he'll only get better.

He's made The Lakers competitive AND better - that is a lot for a rookie.

I'm glad that WE were able to bottle him up somewhat but he's going to be a load going forward.

The comparisons to Jason Kidd - while STILL early in Ball's career - are not far off. A 6'6" version of Kidd.

With that much height he has the potential to REALLY disrupt defensively as he gets better.

Congrats on Moderator, too - Moranis.

If you go by Lakers boards, the Lakers got better in spite of him. Laker offense and defense numbers last I check are better with him sitting.

He may be key in the future, but right now he is a negative.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 12, 2017, 12:10:52 PM
Congrats to him.

He seems like an humble kid and he'll only get better.

He's made The Lakers competitive AND better - that is a lot for a rookie.

I'm glad that WE were able to bottle him up somewhat but he's going to be a load going forward.

The comparisons to Jason Kidd - while STILL early in Ball's career - are not far off. A 6'6" version of Kidd.

With that much height he has the potential to REALLY disrupt defensively as he gets better.

Congrats on Moderator, too - Moranis.

If you go by Lakers boards, the Lakers got better in spite of him. Laker offense and defense numbers last I check are better with him sitting.

He may be key in the future, but right now he is a negative.


Magic screwed up already Trading a budding young talent in Russell for a dinosaur Lopez .  Lopez drags the team in the wrong direction asa building block , even if his points gives them wins.  He has no future as a Laker..   
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: CelticsElite on November 12, 2017, 12:41:41 PM
not impressed by stat padders like Westbrook and ball who are able to get Triple doubles and their team loses at the end ? It’s selfish gameplay
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: EJPLAYA on November 12, 2017, 12:52:12 PM
not impressed by stat ladders like Westbrook and ball who are able to get Triple doubles and their team loses at the end ? It’s selfish gameplay

This. I am tired of all the hype for a guy who can't now nor will ever be able to shoot the ball. (See Rondo and all their hope for him developing a shot) He is a decent passer and a solid rebounder from the guard position. Nothing more. He is a mediocre player in this league on bad teams. Luckily for the Lakers they got the actual good player in Kuzma...
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: blink on November 12, 2017, 01:22:54 PM
I think the hype on Lonzo is so dumb.  He isn't as good as ESPN is hyping him to be.  But I don't get the hate for the kid.  But his dad....umm...probably turns off a lot of people. 

I don't think he is going to be a future mvp, but he can be special when he pushes the pace and attacks the rim.  His shooting form is pretty bad, I cringe when I watch it.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: Mlewis1392 on November 12, 2017, 01:34:41 PM
He made it clear after the game that the triple double means nothing to him with the game resulting in a loss for the Lakers. One thing you can't question  about the kid is his passion for the game and winning  attitude. That's all that he cares about
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 12, 2017, 03:04:16 PM
Like some others, I don't get the hate for Ball.

I initially felt natural dislike towards him based on his father alone, as I just assumed "like father, like son". But then I saw him in a couple of interviews, and he seems nothing at all like his father.  He actually seems like a really good kid with a modest attitude so is all about doing whatever the team needs to win - and some most players will SAY they feel that way, he's one of the rare ones (like Tatum) who seems to genuinely believe it.

I hate the Lakers as a franchise, and I hate Lavar Ball, but I can't hold those things against this kid.

As has been by some others here, I don't think he's going to become anything close to the next magic or even the next penny Hardaway, - I think he's just too limited scoring the ball and too limited defensively to ever get there.  But I do think he'll be a very good pass first PG (Rondo-esque) who will pile up triple doubles like no tomorrow.

Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 12, 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Edit: accidental double post
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: gouki88 on November 12, 2017, 03:22:10 PM
Really couldn't care less, but I can tell ESPN is going to make this out to be a huge story.

God he's overrated
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: crimson_stallion on November 12, 2017, 04:24:15 PM
Really couldn't care less, but I can tell ESPN is going to make this out to be a huge story.

God he's overrated

Yep.

I'm far more impressed by Simmons, who has already put up two triple doubles and has been a key reason why the Sixers look like a legit playoff team.
Title: Re: Lonzo Ball - youngest to get a triple double (breaks lebrons record)
Post by: GratefulCs on November 12, 2017, 04:40:10 PM
Like some others, I don't get the hate for Ball.

I initially felt natural dislike towards him based on his father alone, as I just assumed "like father, like son". But then I saw him in a couple of interviews, and he seems nothing at all like his father.  He actually seems like a really good kid with a modest attitude so is all about doing whatever the team needs to win - and some most players will SAY they feel that way, he's one of the rare ones (like Tatum) who seems to genuinely believe it.

I hate the Lakers as a franchise, and I hate Lavar Ball, but I can't hold those things against this kid.

As has been by some others here, I don't think he's going to become anything close to the next magic or even the next penny Hardaway, - I think he's just too limited scoring the ball and too limited defensively to ever get there.  But I do think he'll be a very good pass first PG (Rondo-esque) who will pile up triple doubles like no tomorrow.
... he's a laker


that's all i need to know