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Re: We need a coach that will use our depth:
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2023, 06:07:44 PM »

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Maimi is going to the NBA finals playing "end of the bench" guys!

And they would lose again just like a couple of years ago. The heat is a very beatable team, as long as you are not mentally weak, knows how to defend 3, and your stars don't shoot 20% on 3s.

They also beat the Bucks. Miami is playing good team ball with quite a few guys who are "end of the bench" guys. That fact remains.

they beat the bucks without Giannis for the first 3 games, and they did it because of the only star they have, Jimmy Butler, is playing like the best player on the planet. I don't think the Heat hold a chance beating Bucks, or any team in the playoff, without an outstanding Jimmy Butler.

They also don't win without Martin, Vincent, Strus, Robinson...
sure, by definition of a team, they need the role players, but it doesn't mean they have better role players than ours, trade those for DW, Smart, Horford, they would have swiped us.

We beat this team last year with a 8 man rotation, no home court, worse health, no Brogdon. Bench is not the excuse, Hauser won't save us.

Re: We need a coach that will use our depth:
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2023, 06:20:03 PM »

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Maimi is going to the NBA finals playing "end of the bench" guys!

And they would lose again just like a couple of years ago. The heat is a very beatable team, as long as you are not mentally weak, knows how to defend 3, and your stars don't shoot 20% on 3s.

They also beat the Bucks. Miami is playing good team ball with quite a few guys who are "end of the bench" guys. That fact remains.

they beat the bucks without Giannis for the first 3 games, and they did it because of the only star they have, Jimmy Butler, is playing like the best player on the planet. I don't think the Heat hold a chance beating Bucks, or any team in the playoff, without an outstanding Jimmy Butler.

They also don't win without Martin, Vincent, Strus, Robinson...
sure, by definition of a team, they need the role players, but it doesn't mean they have better role players than ours, trade those for DW, Smart, Horford, they would have swiped us.

We beat this team last year with a 8 man rotation, no home court, worse health, no Brogdon. Bench is not the excuse, Hauser won't save us.

Not if we don't play him. Wasn't Hauser the one who hit the buzzer beater to send that Bucks game into overtime? The players you don't play won't help you win. I agree with that.

Re: We need a coach that will use our depth:
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2023, 06:36:30 PM »

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C's Starters were Worn Out by NOT using the Bench. "Deepest" Team in the League and our bench was Worthless because of our Moron Coach.
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Re: We need a coach that will use our depth:
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2023, 06:45:05 PM »

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Welp, Denver vs Miami is gonna be a ratings Disaster for The NBA, IMO
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Re: We need a coach that will use our depth:
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2023, 06:56:02 PM »

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Maimi is going to the NBA finals playing "end of the bench" guys!

And they would lose again just like a couple of years ago. The heat is a very beatable team, as long as you are not mentally weak, knows how to defend 3, and your stars don't shoot 20% on 3s.

They also beat the Bucks. Miami is playing good team ball with quite a few guys who are "end of the bench" guys. That fact remains.

they beat the bucks without Giannis for the first 3 games, and they did it because of the only star they have, Jimmy Butler, is playing like the best player on the planet. I don't think the Heat hold a chance beating Bucks, or any team in the playoff, without an outstanding Jimmy Butler.

They also don't win without Martin, Vincent, Strus, Robinson...
sure, by definition of a team, they need the role players, but it doesn't mean they have better role players than ours, trade those for DW, Smart, Horford, they would have swiped us.

We beat this team last year with a 8 man rotation, no home court, worse health, no Brogdon. Bench is not the excuse, Hauser won't save us.

Not if we don't play him. Wasn't Hauser the one who hit the buzzer beater to send that Bucks game into overtime? The players you don't play won't help you win. I agree with that.

Because some end of bench guy hit a regular season buzzer beater, now a conference final's hope is clinched on him? Hauser wasn't playing because he's terrible since 2nd half of the season, based on your logic anyone who hasn't played could have saved our season, sure, I can't disprove that.

Re: We need a coach that will use our depth:
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2023, 07:06:54 PM »

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We need a coach who runs an offense and makes guys play like a team not a bunch of individuals who jack up a bunch of 3's.

Smart literally said that they don't have an offensive system. That's ridiculous.

Re: We need a coach that will use our depth:
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2023, 08:47:13 PM »

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Hauser wasn't playing because he's terrible since 2nd half of the season
Hauser was playing very well in the 2nd half of the season. He beat out G Will for those bench minutes while G Will was struggling with shot due to injury and Hauser kept those bench minutes because of how well he was playing. He was shooting lights out for the 2nd half of the season.

He was playing 19mpg scoring 8ppg shooting 48% FG% 45% from three on almost 5 attempts per game. 90% of his attempts coming from three point range so he was posting a ridiculous TS% of 67.5%.

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« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2023, 08:49:40 PM »

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Agreed. Our deep bench guys could have offered different options at different times and brought valuable skills to the table. We had three strong shooters on our deep bench in Pritchard (small ball-handling guard), Hauser (6-8 wing) and Muscala (big man). With the number of times our offense went off the rails, these guys could've definitely supplied something useful at specific times. They weren't everyday players but for some particular days in particular situations players.

Our coach wasted assets by not using them. Not trusting them. He screwed up.

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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2023, 08:54:49 PM »

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Maimi is going to the NBA finals playing "end of the bench" guys!

And they would lose again just like a couple of years ago. The heat is a very beatable team, as long as you are not mentally weak, knows how to defend 3, and your stars don't shoot 20% on 3s.

They also beat the Bucks. Miami is playing good team ball with quite a few guys who are "end of the bench" guys. That fact remains.

they beat the bucks without Giannis for the first 3 games, and they did it because of the only star they have, Jimmy Butler, is playing like the best player on the planet. I don't think the Heat hold a chance beating Bucks, or any team in the playoff, without an outstanding Jimmy Butler.

And they beat us to advance to the finals because of Caleb Martin, not Jimmy Butler. Joe getting nothing from our bench and Spo making an unstaffed guy look better than a 2nd team all-NBA player is a major, major reason we lost.
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Re: We need a coach that will use our depth:
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2023, 08:56:04 PM »

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Re: We need a coach that will use our depth:
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2023, 07:45:44 AM »

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This won't happen, but if I were in charge, I would fire the entire coaching staff and bring in an experienced  "championship-level" coach and of course let him choose his own assistants.

The culture needs to change around this team, not so much the roster. The excellent defense of 2021-22 season is gone. The stars are playing iso ball. The bench doesn't play enough.

EDIT: I put up this post after hearing Chris Mannix predict that there will be no major moves in the off-season other than possibly bringing in a vet assistant coach. IMO, this will not be an effective solution. A full-on culture change is necessary. The roster is ok esp with Brogdon and Gallo coming back.
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Re: We need a coach that will use our depth:
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2023, 10:34:08 AM »

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Do people really think our depth is that good?   I for one don't, sure it was better, than last year.  I think it was still mediocre and here are some stats to illustrate it.   There is a reason, Tatum and Brown play a lot of minutes.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/which-team-leads-the-nba-in-bench-scoring

We were 20th in the league in bench scoring, 17th in APG and 14th in RPG.   We were third in 3P % but we still ranked 20th in PPG

A lot of our bench guys have flaws, like every other bench in the NBA but do ours play with the desperation that MIA guys did, no.

We sure could have used a decent player to spell Tatum or Brown  them so they are not so exhausted in the post season.



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